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BobbyDobbs wrote:

Old bones Ian wrote:1st meeting ahead of the fight between the boxers, looks like its warming up nicely.

http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/boxing/b ... -1-4550560

smoggy7188 wrote:It also came out at the press conference that the winner of Hope/Proska will fight Barker in September sometime.

smoggy7188 wrote:It also came out at the press conference that the winner of Hope/Proska will fight Barker in September sometime.

smoggy7188 wrote:It also came out at the press conference that the winner of Hope/Proska will fight Barker in September sometime.

BobbyDobbs wrote:http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8016/7198 ... 0d35_b.jpg

mrpedigree wrote:

crusader wrote:A very strong argument can be made that Jones is top 15.

What with 8 loses ..surely to break in to the top 15 you gotta be beating top 15 or less opponents ? who has jones fought/beat to be in the top 15 ?
It just seems to be the trend with most of our fighters,they all wanna pad their records with bums ,Cleverly is doing the same and the only good fighter he fought he wont rematch
People go on about Calzaghe and i know he fought a few bums but at least by his 22nd fight he was fighting former world champions like Eubank etc

BobbyDobbs wrote:People who arent matchmakers miss certain things.

For example look at Germaine Sanders win. Look at the guys who he had fought just before Carson and the results. The Carson came in and was the first guy to knock him out in 10 years.

Then look at the win over Ricardo Williams. He was 19-2 and coming off several wins. Carson was he first man EVER to knock him down and stop him.

The Russian, Carson stopped him and several MIDDLEWEIGHTS subsequent to Carson had tough fights with him and couldnt stop him.

bigB wrote:

BobbyDobbs wrote:People who arent matchmakers miss certain things.

For example look at Germaine Sanders win. Look at the guys who he had fought just before Carson and the results. The Carson came in and was the first guy to knock him out in 10 years.

Then look at the win over Ricardo Williams. He was 19-2 and coming off several wins. Carson was he first man EVER to knock him down and stop him.

The Russian, Carson stopped him and several MIDDLEWEIGHTS subsequent to Carson had tough fights with him and couldnt stop him.

Has he faced someone who is as accurate and can punch like Kell? 10 stoppages in past 12 fights Matthew Hatton has openly come out and said he is up there with "Canelo" Saul Alvarez - I cannot wait for this one as Carson is coming to fight and Kell will step up to the plate then out box and if necessary stop Carson cannot see it going past the 8th round

danfoster wrote:If you're so relaxed about this fight why are you feeling the need to come on here and talk Carson up? Feels a bit like you're trying to convince yourself that Kell is nothing to worry about and the more you say it the more true it will become!

BobbyDobbs wrote:

danfoster wrote:If you're so relaxed about this fight why are you feeling the need to come on here and talk Carson up? Feels a bit like you're trying to convince yourself that Kell is nothing to worry about and the more you say it the more true it will become!

I could say the same thing about you.

BobbyDobbs wrote:

bigB wrote:

BobbyDobbs wrote:People who arent matchmakers miss certain things.

For example look at Germaine Sanders win. Look at the guys who he had fought just before Carson and the results. The Carson came in and was the first guy to knock him out in 10 years.

Then look at the win over Ricardo Williams. He was 19-2 and coming off several wins. Carson was he first man EVER to knock him down and stop him.

The Russian, Carson stopped him and several MIDDLEWEIGHTS subsequent to Carson had tough fights with him and couldnt stop him.

Has he faced someone who is as accurate and can punch like Kell? 10 stoppages in past 12 fights Matthew Hatton has openly come out and said he is up there with "Canelo" Saul Alvarez - I cannot wait for this one as Carson is coming to fight and Kell will step up to the plate then out box and if necessary stop Carson cannot see it going past the 8th round

Yes, Williams is a very fast gifted boxer that will give anyone problems! And carson spars with the real Canelo in Big Bear and I can tell you that Carson gives him all he can handle. So that doesnt worry me. Hatton is a punching bag. Carson will hit him back and hit him hard.

BD

palooka wrote:

BobbyDobbs wrote:

MightyWarrior wrote:Bobby is Jones' manager and it's great to see they're coming here to win, because let's face it, Kell needs a test.

But I wasn't going by Carson's record when I said I thought he was going to get beaten - win / loss ratio means nothing until you see who they've been up against. It more to do with the youtube footage I looked at: getting wobbled by Gomez showed he's not got the best of chins - and while he looks a decent enough puncher, Kell's chin seems good so far, and Jones looks wide open in some of his fights - not much defence there.

Said Ouali might've been ranked 15, but not sure how: he was bombed out 2 fights before by Bailey, only to get a ND due to Bailey throwing him out of the ring.

Because it was an ND and because prior to that Ouali was robbed in a Split decision against WBA champ Selcuk Aydin.

The Carson Jones of today is so much different than the Carson Jones that fought Alfonso Gomez that its not even comparable. That fight was 6 years and almost 30 fights ago. You are watching a 19 year old Carson Jones in a fight he trained himself two weeks for. He would demolish Gomez today.

Also Brook got dropped and hurt badly by a much lesser opponent than Gomez earlier in his career...

Sir; I respect your judgement and experience and hesitate to corect you; surely; you meant, 'The Gomez'?