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greenyox3 wrote:

earsjohn wrote:Wouldn't have happened under the LBF!

In all the BS, I have to say that both Bradley and Manny were pure class in the interviews. Bradley didn't claim a comfortable win, Manny didn't scream robbery - can think of 90% of fighters who would not have covered themselves in glory under the same circumstances.

Pacquaio's gym-mate for one.

In fairness Khan has been proved to have had a valid gripe.

kingfinn wrote:

greenyox3 wrote:

earsjohn wrote:Wouldn't have happened under the LBF!

In all the BS, I have to say that both Bradley and Manny were pure class in the interviews. Bradley didn't claim a comfortable win, Manny didn't scream robbery - can think of 90% of fighters who would not have covered themselves in glory under the same circumstances.

Pacquaio's gym-mate for one.

In fairness Khan has been proved to have had a valid gripe.

True, but he didn't know that when he did his post-fight interview.

I still can't see why Pacquaio switched off in the last 3 rounds, his workrate went down so much. He didn't look tired and moved ok, but just didn't punch enough. After the 9th Roach told him to pick up the punch rate.

Old bones Ian wrote:I still can't see why Pacquaio switched off in the last 3 rounds, his workrate went down so much. He didn't look tired and moved ok, but just didn't punch enough. After the 9th Roach told him to pick up the punch rate.

I think the simple answer is that he thought he had the fight in the bag and was winning by quite a few rounds, which is why he started to only fight for the last minute of each round. Pacquaio is a fighter who has proved everything to himself now, made lots of money and isn't prepared to put himself on the line anymore in fights, plus the fact that he is declining now. The last time we saw "Pacquaio" was in the Cotto fight IMO.

Watched it last night and didnt score it but i got the feeling Pac won.

Watched again today with out the "Pac mania" commentary and i had it 115-114 for Manny.

lol, apologies that wasn't actually my scorecard, it's from a buddy of mine on twitter who watched it live.

I'm downloading the fight now, looking forward to scoring it actually, get the feeling there's some pac-rage going on with the cries of robbery etc.

Old bones Ian wrote:I gave Bradley rounds 3,7,10,11,12

Seriously?? What you smoking

kevo wrote:I won £30. F*ck Pacquiao.

"I won $30m. F*ck Kevo from BoxRec." Manny Pacquiao

Scorecards here:

http://news.boxrec.com/news/2012/nelson ... s-pacquiao

Camcas wrote:

Old bones Ian wrote:I gave Bradley rounds 3,7,10,11,12

Seriously?? What you smoking

yep seriously, Pacman won the fight but those are the rounds a gave bradley

Rnd Pac Bradley
1 10 9 (close)
2 10 9
3 10 9
4 10 9
5 10 9
6 10 9 (close)
7 10 9
8 9 10
9 10 9
10 9 10
11 10 9 (close)
12 9 10

117 111

On my card Bradley 'could' have got a draw if he had the close rounds but he didn't do enough to get them or do enough damage imo.
113-115 to Bradley was utter bollocks.

Pacman is the same guy who:

1) Admitted to cheating on his wife (or some philandering)
2) Admitted to drinking and gambling
3) Admitted he lost his way morally

And yet we all believe he would never touch PEDs?

fornicate him...I'm glad he lost. Him and his little buddy Freddie CockRoach...

I gave Bradley 1,2, 9, 10, 11 and 12

Manny only fought in burts. He did dominate the fight from 3 to 8, but with the 10 point system i would have scord it a draw.

The Primetime guy was so far up Manny`s hole it was laughable. I turned the sound down half way through the second.

Kell Brook beats them both.

The Insider wrote:Watched it last night and didnt score it but i got the feeling Pac won.

Watched again today with out the "Pac mania" commentary and i had it 115-114 for Manny.

I gave Bradley first two rounds rest to pacman till late stages.. had pacman winning by 2 or 3 was close not a landslide like HBO dickrider crew.

forcefraser wrote:I gave Bradley 1,2, 9, 10, 11 and 12

Manny only fought in burts. He did dominate the fight from 3 to 8, but with the 10 point system i would have scord it a draw.

The Primetime guy was so far up Manny`s hole it was laughable. I turned the sound down half way through the second.

Kell Brook beats them both.

i saw it similar gave manny few of the later rounds it was close..

forcefraser wrote:I gave Bradley 1,2, 9, 10, 11 and 12

Manny only fought in burts. He did dominate the fight from 3 to 8, but with the 10 point system i would have scord it a draw.

The Primetime guy was so far up Manny`s hole it was laughable. I turned the sound down half way through the second.

Kell Brook beats them both.

Why so sure? Kell's a talented fighter but he's fought at nowhere near that level

Final round wrote:

forcefraser wrote:I gave Bradley 1,2, 9, 10, 11 and 12

Manny only fought in burts. He did dominate the fight from 3 to 8, but with the 10 point system i would have scord it a draw.

The Primetime guy was so far up Manny`s hole it was laughable. I turned the sound down half way through the second.

Kell Brook beats them both.

Why so sure? Kell's a talented fighter but he's fought at nowhere near that level

Cos i saw nothig last night from either man that i dont think brook could handle

What does Brook have that they couldn't handle?

crusader wrote:What does Brook have that they couldn't handle?

reflexes and skill

I'm not convinced that Brook's reflexes and skills are beyond Pacquiao and Bradley; Bradley has never shown an inability to overcome those qualities, while Pacquiao struggled with the skills of a masterful technical boxer, not someone untested beyond Euro level.

Since Brook is untested at the highest level, I'm unsure if he would cope with the strengths of Pacquiao and Bradley better than they would cope with his strengths.

I'm not a die hard fan of either man. But a couple of thoughts from last night:

- Bradley scored more than few even rounds for me. Pac can't just rattle-off for 1 minute then do nothing for the other 2.

- Why hire Manny's pal, another Roach-stable fighter in Khan, who has a grudge against Bradley to do commentary. Talk about coloring the action, I turned the tw*t off in the end.

- A close but clear win for Pac, but he was hardly dominating. I blame his new milkshakes.

- Mayweather would brutalize both of them.

- Family sized galaxy bars go well with beer at 5am

Old bones Ian wrote:

Camcas wrote:

Old bones Ian wrote:I gave Bradley rounds 3,7,10,11,12

Seriously?? What you smoking

yep seriously, Pacman won the fight but those are the rounds a gave bradley

Fair enough having it close, but don't understand how you got 3rd or 7th for Bradley especially 3rd

Mensa07 wrote:

i had bradley winning round 1 then lost every round upto the beginning of round 9 after that i cant tell you cause i fell asleep,manny deserved what he got for keeping us up waiting cause he wanted to watch the end of a basket ball game? this is your job cock face,get out on time and perform,if i was late for my job id be deducted money. the score cards were disgraceful and its only the cancer of world bocing (bob arum) that wins with this result.

Camcas wrote:

Old bones Ian wrote:

Camcas wrote:I gave Bradley rounds 3,7,10,11,12

Seriously?? What you smoking

Fair enough having it close, but don't understand how you got 3rd or 7th for Bradley especially 3rd

Wasn't the 3rd round the round where Bradley was very very hurt and Pacman was running off his stool at the start of the 4th to try and jump on him? Ridiculous to score that round for Bradley!

I am still really disappointed by this whole affair. While everyone seems to have Bradley winning between 1 and 5 rounds, which shows how close some of the round were (and I can see a point for any score between that, I give him 3 maybe 4), the disgrace is the fact that not a single person I have seen can come up with Bradley winning 7 rounds, because he simply didn't, not even near.

A few things annoyed me - firstly after about 3/4 rounds I started thinking to myself "why is Pacquiao carrying this guy?" Just get him out of there, shut up the doubters and go home early. The Pacquiao of old would have knocked him clean out ala Ricky Hatton. Instead he decided to take no risks and just cruise, even letting Bradley win the late rounds. He could have quite easily pitched a shut out. In the later rounds which Bradley took, Bradley did next to nothing, but Pacquiao somehow managed to do less. He obviously thought (like everyone else) the fight was wrapped up.

The other thing that annoyed me was post fight. The way Bradley went from limping around, playing on his foot injury (I actually thought there was another "toe" excuse coming up!) to running and jumping on the ring post celebrating like he was never in doubt he'd won, was just plain embarrassing.

Lastly, I was so sure of the result I wasn't even going to stay up to watch the decision. But intrigue of by how many rounds they would score it for Manny (off the back of the Marquez debacle) took over me and I watched. After seeing that and being so shocked/disgusted I couldn't go back to sleep, and didn't until last night, so this morning I am officially fvcked

Thanks boxing!