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greenyox3 wrote:Dunno why people are being so negative about him. The dude's had 5 fights. Let him develop.

He does need to drop the "I'm my father's son" act though.
It's one of the downsides of being a tv act from day one
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"I'm my milkman's son"
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I look at Eubanks progress along the lines of Degale and Groves but more so Groves. Groves fought for Commonwealth after 8fights. Will Eubank be in the same position? I believe he will if he sharpens his defence.
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smoggy7188 wrote:I look at Eubanks progress along the lines of Degale and Groves but more so Groves. Groves fought for Commonwealth after 8fights. Will Eubank be in the same position? I believe he will if he sharpens his defence.

You can't compare them with Eubanks limited amateur pedigree, he needs more time than that.
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I enjoyed the Eubank fight. He really is being tested hard and itll only get tougher in a real tough division. I think he deserves a a year fighting tough journeymen who pose no problems before making a big step up he has plenty of time to develop and I like what I see (Milkman's son or not!)
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Eubank had a good amateur record in America and learned the hard way in some mega tough us gyms.
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Fury looked superb tonight and didn't do a single thing wrong. He is progressing well. He'll beat David Price and as I've been saying for ages, will be a world champion.
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keithmoonhangover wrote:Fury looked superb tonight and didn't do a single thing wrong. He is progressing well. He'll beat David Price and as I've been saying for ages, will be a world champion.
I will give him due ,hes got in great shape and looked good tonight ,i think Fury has got a good array of punches for a HW ..he does lack power tho :)
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He won't beat Price. Fury looked pretty good last night and he looked pretty good against Rogan too. Finally starting to come in to fights in pretty good shape too which is fret to see.

I'm a fan but I think a real banger, especially one that is a similar size will take him out completely. Fury lacks power. People say Price has a dodgy chin or want to see his chin tested ( I want to see it tested, I think it will let him down once he gets in to the higher classes ) but to be honest I don't think Fury has the power to test his chin.

I really want to see this fight now though. Would be a good tear up whilst it lasted.
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Fury looked good last night against a guy that didnt stand a chance of winning.
David Price would hit him back and Fury would not know what to do, they are picking the smallest heavies possible. Someone said the best jab since Larry Holmes last night ( think it was his promoter) give me a break! And his shorts looked like they had been shrunk by his mum as a sidenote!
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Frank really needs to get price fights somewhere... He needs to be out more. For what its worth i dont think we'll see price fury in the near future, whilst it would be fantasdtic, both promoters can see that whilst theyve still got that magic undefeated tag their fighter could be in for a shot at wladamir. They are quite literally running out of opponents. Another 18months and vitali will be long gone and wladamir 39.
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Spiker wrote:Fury looked good last night against a guy that didnt stand a chance of winning.
David Price would hit him back and Fury would not know what to do, they are picking the smallest heavies possible. Someone said the best jab since Larry Holmes last night ( think it was his promoter) give me a break! And his shorts looked like they had been shrunk by his mum as a sidenote!
His shorts reminded me of the simpsons episode "who likes short shorts..."
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As others have said Eubank is a walking accident. His defense is shocking, his power over rated and his opponents seem to catch him far too easily. It's also worrying that he's not learning to improve his defence. He was lucky Carruthers wasn't a puncher or he'd have been in trouble.
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iamasadlittleboy wrote:As others have said Eubank is a walking accident. His defense is shocking, his power over rated and his opponents seem to catch him far too easily. It's also worrying that he's not learning to improve his defence. He was lucky Carruthers wasn't a puncher or he'd have been in trouble.
Tough match for a 4-0 prospect. However the toughest battle he has isnt his defence but the fact he is chris eubanks son. Eubank gets his hooter in all the interviews, pre fight post fight. I cant decide if eubank wants him to lose, or is re-living his boxing career through him. Or am i tired, grumpy and sceptical?
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The way he has been matched could be deemed not as easy other prospects , such as not a load of Eastern European imports so far.

Is this an American way of doing things? Are there prospects not given an easy ride early in there career like a lot of ours are?
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Was impressed with Fury lastnight.

Yes I know it wasn't againt the best opposition 0- but remember Maddalone has only lost to world champs/world title challengers (maybe other than 1 or 2 fights).

Fury looked the quickest I've saw him, looked the best condition I've saw him, footwork and movement was the best I'd saw of him. Decent jab as always.

Obviosuly Maddalones style was taylor made and it made Fury look good, but he can only beat whats infront of him.

I think Fury has become this fighter everyone likes to slag off type when he's only young for a heavyweight 23 is a baby, they're doing the smart thing bringing him on slowly in my opinion - like his team have said anyone can get a shot at the Klitschko's - but its getting that shot when you have the best chance of winning (Fury's a way off that atleast 2 years imo).

Also people like to slate him for ducking Price but I doubt he himself would duck anyone. At the end of the day it was a business decision, and I dont even blame Hennessy, at the end of the day he's fooked without Channel 5/Fury - so why would he risk that.

Fury's only young he is gonna make mistakes, and he's gonna sound a bit of a gobshite sometimes. But he is a nice kid, speaks intelligently (when he's not hyping) and imo is improving. He needs time
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Amusing to read that some people are criticsing Eubank but others are lauding Fury. Fury's opponent, Maddalone is awful and has always been awful and Fury fights him now? A nothing fight. It was only done to give the illusion that Fury can look good boxing etc...which C5 want. More hype for the train. I cant knock terrestial boxing too much as its good to have but jeeez, at least Eubank is getting tests early and he will go on to be a better fighter than Fury.

Since Chisora, Fury hasn't done anything worthy of elevating his rankings. It's just now a case of bide his time, beat up some more small clubfighters and wait for Wlad and Vitali to retire then beat up an over the hill American for a vacant belt. His lack of punch, for a boxer of his size is pretty surprising. Price, forget his 'chin check' beats him pretty easily and convincingly, in my opinion.
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bengulnaci1 wrote:Amusing to read that some people are criticsing Eubank but others are lauding Fury. Fury's opponent, Maddalone is awful and has always been awful and Fury fights him now? A nothing fight. It was only done to give the illusion that Fury can look good boxing etc...which C5 want. More hype for the train. I cant knock terrestial boxing too much as its good to have but jeeez, at least Eubank is getting tests early and he will go on to be a better fighter than Fury.

Since Chisora, Fury hasn't done anything worthy of elevating his rankings. It's just now a case of bide his time, beat up some more small clubfighters and wait for Wlad and Vitali to retire then beat up an over the hill American for a vacant belt. His lack of punch, for a boxer of his size is pretty surprising. Price, forget his 'chin check' beats him pretty easily and convincingly, in my opinion.
Agree totaly with this ^
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The plan of waiting until Fury is ready for a Klit is in reality wait until the Klits are over the hill ( Vitali already is ) or retired.

I like Tyson but that seems the case to me. People keep saying he is a baby in heavyweight terms but thats only because over the last decade the division has been pretty jank meaning 40 yr olds are still considered contenders. Tyson, a bit like his namesake was a man child, looks and seems a lot older than his actual years. Traveller chaps seem to mature fast physically. Fury could well be finished by the time he is 30.
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Spiker wrote:
bengulnaci1 wrote:Amusing to read that some people are criticsing Eubank but others are lauding Fury. Fury's opponent, Maddalone is awful and has always been awful and Fury fights him now? A nothing fight. It was only done to give the illusion that Fury can look good boxing etc...which C5 want. More hype for the train. I cant knock terrestial boxing too much as its good to have but jeeez, at least Eubank is getting tests early and he will go on to be a better fighter than Fury.

Since Chisora, Fury hasn't done anything worthy of elevating his rankings. It's just now a case of bide his time, beat up some more small clubfighters and wait for Wlad and Vitali to retire then beat up an over the hill American for a vacant belt. His lack of punch, for a boxer of his size is pretty surprising. Price, forget his 'chin check' beats him pretty easily and convincingly, in my opinion.
Agree totaly with this ^
Depends how you define "better fighter". Does he have potential to be better boxer, or mix in the higher class? Fury will be mixing in world titles, i dont chris jnr getting past european level.
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smoggy7188 wrote:I look at Eubanks progress along the lines of Degale and Groves but more so Groves. Groves fought for Commonwealth after 8fights. Will Eubank be in the same position? I believe he will if he sharpens his defence.
James DeGale? I remember him. Was a good prospect, looked to be going places. I wonder what ever happened to him...
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Fury looked quick and energetic last night, regardless of how serious a threat Maddalone was.

We're seeing improvements all the time or something new to his game with every fight. Adamek, if next, is a good, tricky opponent. Or I would like to see Fury go for the European title and defend before closing in on a world title shot, so he has as much experience as possible.

The perceived lack of power, I don't see being a problem because Fury has other attributes to call on. If he can't knock out his opponent, he ups his work rate and busts them up. Fury mentioned himself he was conscious not to load up on his punches, which coming from a 23 year old heavyweight is worth taking not of, and to fair, he didn't load up and look for the one big shot shot. His body shots are effective and classy too. Tyson just kept the punches flowing and made the job very easy for himself. I still take Fury to derail Price if they ever meet.
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earsjohn wrote:
smoggy7188 wrote:I look at Eubanks progress along the lines of Degale and Groves but more so Groves. Groves fought for Commonwealth after 8fights. Will Eubank be in the same position? I believe he will if he sharpens his defence.
James DeGale? I remember him. Was a good prospect, looked to be going places. I wonder what ever happened to him...
He won the Britsish title, lost it on a majority, won the European title and successfully defended it abroad. Still only had about 13/14 fight, too!
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He's looked a shadow of himself post groves. And de gale is in danger of falling into the "oh yeah i remember him club" if he isnt careful. The groves fight mustve been mentally draining, especially with the pressure and exposure the two were under.
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I have just informed the police that Fury has stolen my Grandad's shorts.

Shocking piece of kit.
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