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Re: Should Amir Khan retire?

Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 11:14
by Eddy
If he returns, the first thing he needs to do is revenge one of those defeats. Khan IMO isn't really bothered about avenging losses. He wanted no part of Prescot at all. I don't think today a fighter's career is over because of a defeat. In the UFC fighters lose and win all the time, a typical MMA fighter's record could be e.g. Joe Blogs 8 3 (4 KOs) ect and still bring in the crowds. Khan should go back to the UK and fight Brook.

Re: Should Amir Khan retire?

Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 14:56
by Box Office
Carl was spot on with his comments , noting mean spirited or spiteful at all!
Why do people always twist his words?

I honestly believe if he was knocked out he would retire

Khan has the skill to beat anyone in the World , but unfortunately
has the chin to get beat by anyone as well.

He still has his brains, fighting too long would be tragic.
one only has to look at his Look at his trainer to see.

On another note , ive noticed a big deterioration im Roach's Health

Khan has achieved a lot in the sport , no need to keep fighting.

Re: Should Amir Khan retire?

Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 22:55
by andeeholden
Carl Froch said that if HE was in Khan's position then HE would retire. He was in no way advising that Khan actually retire.

Khan still has plenty to offer and I have no doubt that he will continue in the sport, however in terms of Amir's wellbeing, I do understand people's worries. Questions about his ability to take a punch have been asked for years, with this Saturday being a crushing reminder to us all that he certainly cannot.

Re: Should Amir Khan retire?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 07:49
by Cas
Come on lads. This is boxing - you are bound to get knocked out once in a while.

Amir is only 25 years of age and made a massive mistake on Saturday, it happens. He's suffered 2 KO's (nothing major) so have many other fighters.

Can see why Khan should retire if he was to suffer another KO defeat. Khan has plenty of times on his hands to rectify the matter and maybe he might change for the good after this loss. If he realizes his mistakes then he can still become a force in the division. It could have been a blessing in disguise for Khan, let's see how he develops in his next couple of fights.

Khan is defiantly not done yet. This retirement talk is way over the top. He's one of boxings superstars, he isn't going to jack it in yet.

Re: Should Amir Khan retire?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 08:07
by Bricks
leftysreturn wrote:
Andypittcov wrote:Depends what his hearts telling him
One thing Amir certainly doesnt lack is Cajones and he wont want to go out like that im sure of it! Knowing him *not that I do* he'll have the same mentality as when he lost to Prescott and want to redeem himself and as he puts it "shut the critics up" ha
Khan simply hasnt progressed from his amateur days he still has the same herky jerky rushing in amateur style like he is hyperactive. He has incredible heart and a will to win second to none. But he isnt a very intelligent boxer.When he gets knocked down his heart tells him to get up in a split second and than he wobbles all over the place.....if he was intelligent and a seasoned pro. he would lie on the ground for 5-6 seconds than stand up give himself time to get composed. He hasnt learned to hold, and he rushes in like an amateur. With his speed and raw talent he should know how to box like a counterpuncher and counter people off the back foot that way he could dig in some more power and score knockouts.

Re: Should Amir Khan retire?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 08:10
by lefty
mugabi wrote:
leftysreturn wrote:
Andypittcov wrote:Depends what his hearts telling him
One thing Amir certainly doesnt lack is Cajones and he wont want to go out like that im sure of it! Knowing him *not that I do* he'll have the same mentality as when he lost to Prescott and want to redeem himself and as he puts it "shut the critics up" ha
Khan simply hasnt progressed from his amateur days he still has the same herky jerky rushing in amateur style like he is hyperactive. He has incredible heart and a will to win second to none. But he isnt a very intelligent boxer.When he gets knocked down his heart tells him to get up in a split second and than he wobbles all over the place.....if he was intelligent and a seasoned pro. he would lie on the ground for 5-6 seconds than stand up give himself time to get composed. He hasnt learned to hold, and he rushes in like an amateur. With his speed and raw talent he should know how to box like a counterpuncher and counter people off the back foot that way he could dig in some more power and score knockouts.
The problem is he doesnt have that counter punching mentality! I think the way guys fight is to do with the personality they have really.

Re: Should Amir Khan retire?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 12:46
by craigpanther
Why should he retire after getting knocked out early in a world title fight? If this was the case for every fighter, Lennox Lewis would have retired after his loss to McCall. Look what we would have missed out on if he had, why shouldnt Khan be able to give it another shot to get back to the top like Lewis did, to get called upon to retire after a couple of world title losses is crazy

Re: Should Amir Khan retire?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 13:34
by mrbassie
No reason why he should retire, what he needs to do is come down to Earth. He's not as good as he thinks he is, he's not as good as the British press make him out to be and he's not Pacquiao just because they have the same trainer.
What he ought to do is have a good hard think, admit to himself what his weaknesses are and work on them. He has a lot to learn about fighting, he can move in and out of range quickly (when he remembers to) and he throws very fast flurries but that's all he does. Pacquiao does that too but he knows when to back off and look for a counter, he knows when it's appropriate to move and potshot.
Khan doesn't.
Bottom line is he can't make adjustments and when the one thing you do well isn't working and you can't adjust then you're buggered. He's far too hotheaded which I suspect may be why (that and he's really thick). Roach needs to be more aware of that and work on calming him down in the corner.
He ought to take on a couple of tough journymen and work on learning how to break an opponent down of the distance.

Re: Should Amir Khan retire?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 14:02
by Dan Dares
He's 25, ffs. Why should he retire if he doesn't want to?

Re: Should Amir Khan retire?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 15:59
by whiskey
He fought wrong against Garcia, fought wrong against Peterson, fought wrong against Maidana - and took a pasting even against Willie Limmond. Got decked by Gomez.

Yet I keep reading how 'if he stuck to a game plan'

He's just not as good as the men who've beaten him at the min. I don't see how there could be a rematch, especially after Garcia's dad said the fight wasn't even close and Khan would never rematch them, regardless if there was just a point in it.

He needs to rest up, then re-invent himself completely over the next 9 months. Like everyone says, he's only 25.

Re: Should Amir Khan retire?

Posted: 10 Aug 2012, 12:32
by Bricks
Eddy wrote:If he returns, the first thing he needs to do is revenge one of those defeats. Khan IMO isn't really bothered about avenging losses. He wanted no part of Prescot at all. I don't think today a fighter's career is over because of a defeat. In the UFC fighters lose and win all the time, a typical MMA fighter's record could be e.g. Joe Blogs 8 3 (4 KOs) ect and still bring in the crowds. Khan should go back to the UK and fight Brook.
UFC is a world of difference to pro boxing.....the UFC is the superbowl level guys who compete in it have already have extensive fight records in other disciplines , be that collegiate wrestling like a Brock Lesnar or Jujitsu like a Frank Mir, or karate like a Machida or wrestling for a Randy Couture. So its all those fight disciplines as well and thats why a UFC legend like Randy Couture might have a record like 16-10. But look at his wrestling record and it might be more like 223-18

Khans record is a good one but he clearly hasnt lived up to his potential as a brilliant 17 year old olympian. he isnt A grade. No shame there very few are. I never thought he was as good as bradley or alexander let alone mayweather and marquez and pacquio

Still if he learns what he needs to learn I dont think his whiskers will hold him back the way people think. People forget for all his chin deficiences Khan has one of the most incredible will to wins and heart. He just needs to use his brain more imo instead of being so macho. When he gets knocked down he jumps up at 1 than wobbles all over. A seasoned pro would lie down till 6 get up slowly and compose himself like SRL did with the knockdowns against Hearns in 1989

Re: Should Amir Khan retire?

Posted: 10 Aug 2012, 12:39
by mickey1975
And Khan might have had 100 in the unpaid ranks...

Re: Should Amir Khan retire?

Posted: 10 Aug 2012, 13:16
by palooka
mugabi wrote:
Eddy wrote:If he returns, the first thing he needs to do is revenge one of those defeats. Khan IMO isn't really bothered about avenging losses. He wanted no part of Prescot at all. I don't think today a fighter's career is over because of a defeat. In the UFC fighters lose and win all the time, a typical MMA fighter's record could be e.g. Joe Blogs 8 3 (4 KOs) ect and still bring in the crowds. Khan should go back to the UK and fight Brook.
UFC is a world of difference to pro boxing.....the UFC is the superbowl level guys who compete in it have already have extensive fight records in other disciplines , be that collegiate wrestling like a Brock Lesnar or Jujitsu like a Frank Mir, or karate like a Machida or wrestling for a Randy Couture. So its all those fight disciplines as well and thats why a UFC legend like Randy Couture might have a record like 16-10. But look at his wrestling record and it might be more like 223-18

Khans record is a good one but he clearly hasnt lived up to his potential as a brilliant 17 year old olympian. he isnt A grade. No shame there very few are. I never thought he was as good as bradley or alexander let alone mayweather and marquez and pacquio
Still if he learns what he needs to learn I dont think his whiskers will hold him back the way people think. People forget for all his chin deficiences Khan has one of the most incredible will to wins and heart. He just needs to use his brain more imo instead of being so macho. When he gets knocked down he jumps up at 1 than wobbles all over. A seasoned pro would lie down till 6 get up slowly and compose himself like SRL did with the knockdowns against Hearns in 1989
Not every Olympic medalist will be a hall of fame pro. Khan is having a career he can be very proud of and is earning big; he won't be scraping around when he retires. I'm not a fan of his persona generally but in the Olympics he has put himself across really well. It was striking today when he mentioned that he was a roommate of Luke Campbell as an amateur and is just 1 year older! Khan has done great and has showed fighting heart as well as skill as an amateur and a pro.

Re: Should Amir Khan retire?

Posted: 10 Aug 2012, 14:38
by ScottDetonator
The lose was devastating at the time but looking back, Khan can come again. The US audience will warm to him even more now they have seen a vulnerable side to him. I think now Khan should realise that he isn't as invincible as he was beginning to think he was. A lesson well taught.

Anyone else think that Morales may school Garcia again but this time go the full 12 rounds and be victorious? I've got a feeling it may just be the case.

If Khan is to move up, he has to use his boxing ability more and not think he can go toe-to-toe when he feels like it. Might be the best thing that has ever happened to him. Retirement is many years away yet.