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Re: Enzo Maccarinelli suspended for 6 months for positive test
Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 13:02
by iamasadlittleboy
leftysreturn wrote:gobbles wrote:I wonder if he's banned in Luxembourg?
I think you can do anything and still box for the luxembourg federation
Cleverly v Maccarenelli for the WBO title via Lux. Licenses!
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli suspended for 6 months for positive test
Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 13:05
by palooka
The rules and penalties ought to be explained and published; some of the bans look arbitrary and made up on the spin. Is a diuretic held as severe as a steroid or a fat burner? What if it's suspected the diuretic is being used as a masking agent? Rules, please?
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli suspended for 6 months for positive test
Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 13:10
by gobbles
Interesting in statement issued by FW Promotions, he thanks Robert Smith for help and support. Must have grated the Warren PR office to type that in.
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli suspended for 6 months for positive test
Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 13:15
by palooka
gobbles wrote:Interesting in statement issued by FW Promotions, he thanks Robert Smith for help and support. Must have grated the Warren PR office to type that in.
Business is business, gobbles
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli suspended for 6 months for positive test
Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 13:16
by clintonmcphilbin
gobbles wrote:Interesting in statement issued by FW Promotions, he thanks Robert Smith for help and support. Must have grated the Warren PR office to type that in.
it should thanks for letting me vacate and not being striped of title and my fight with shane being made void. Its like carry on boxing
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli suspended for 6 months for positive test
Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 13:45
by freddydoesdallas
I like how they referred to Enzo as a WBO title holder as opposed to a world champion. Maybe the media could pick up on this and help to distinguish between the paper champs and proper champions
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli suspended for 6 months for positive test
Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 15:50
by Adamj1987
palooka wrote:The rules and penalties ought to be explained and published; some of the bans look arbitrary and made up on the spin. Is a diuretic held as severe as a steroid or a fat burner? What if it's suspected the diuretic is being used as a masking agent? Rules, please?
yes there needs to be a book of precident
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli suspended for 6 months for positive test
Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 16:03
by Final round
He took a product called Dexaprine according to an interview by the mail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing ... ds-newsxml
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli suspended for 6 months for positive test
Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 16:15
by gobbles
Adamj1987 wrote:palooka wrote:The rules and penalties ought to be explained and published; some of the bans look arbitrary and made up on the spin. Is a diuretic held as severe as a steroid or a fat burner? What if it's suspected the diuretic is being used as a masking agent? Rules, please?
yes there needs to be a book of precident
Essentially, he claimed mitigation because of what happened and UKAD accepted his explanations, which tied up with the levels in his sample.
In many sports, if he could show it was accidental, he'd either get 3 months or a warning.
Tony Dodson failed for exactly the same thing and got 5 months.
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli suspended for 6 months for positive test
Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 16:18
by lefty
already been said in the thread mate.
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli suspended for 6 months for positive test
Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 16:24
by Final round
'I have been tested over 20 times in my career and have never failed any random or post fight doping test, but on this occasion, due to my naivety, I have tested positive for a banned substance.
Tested 20 Times over 40 fights
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli suspended for 6 months for positive test
Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 16:25
by palooka
There's boxers never been tested in their career. Who's been doing that testing, in camp maybe? ;;-)
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli suspended for 6 months for positive test
Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 16:30
by gobbles
Final round wrote:'I have been tested over 20 times in my career and have never failed any random or post fight doping test, but on this occasion, due to my naivety, I have tested positive for a banned substance.
Tested 20 Times over 40 fights
He'd have been tested for every title fight. There have been a lot
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli suspended for 6 months for positive test
Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 05:36
by winkveron
Obviously weren't performance enhancing!
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli suspended for 6 months for positive test
Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 06:31
by Chambers2
jonp wrote:Chambers2 wrote:Jonp - yeah my mistake, just replace 'BBBC' with 'doping agency' in my previous posts
Thing is agree on yr points i think all drug cheats just get banned for life it would soon make only the most stupid or imbalanced be prepared to risk it. But where someone has done it too such an extent there should be a bigger fine
For example Larry and Enzo both banned same amount of time but larry gets a twenty grand fine enzo a 3 grand fine.
But i do think that if theres a time limit that varies then there should be variables on punishments if you have got a level of steroid in yr system that shows yr a hardcore user for a long time of the strongest drug you will get more of a ban than someone with a trace amount of some of the less powerful drugs.
I agree with your points Jon, but I think the gap between the 2 punishments is way too BIG, (if Enzo would've got a 2 year ban or Larry an 18 months ban then fair enough). A 6 month ban in boxing is soooooo ineffectual it's untrue
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli suspended for 6 months for positive test
Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 06:44
by rhino222
its only blood testing that will find out the real truth about drugs in the sport we love, urine samples are far too easy to 'mask'
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli suspended for 6 months for positive test
Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 07:19
by Chambers2
rhino222 wrote:its only blood testing that will find out the real truth about drugs in the sport we love, urine samples are far too easy to 'mask'
Do boxers not get blood tested then?
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli suspended for 6 months for positive test
Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 10:18
by The Insider
Chambers2 wrote:rhino222 wrote:its only blood testing that will find out the real truth about drugs in the sport we love, urine samples are far too easy to 'mask'
Do boxers not get blood tested then?
UKAD have started using blood tests.
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli suspended for 6 months for positive test
Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 12:43
by freddydoesdallas
Final round wrote:'I have been tested over 20 times in my career and have never failed any random or post fight doping test, but on this occasion, due to my naivety, I have tested positive for a banned substance.
Tested 20 Times over 40 fights
Is this because he didn't cover his tracks well or actually taking them?