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Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 14:12
by Peter Parker
mcato wrote:
Peter Parker wrote:Pryce would be a good test, but not good for boxing, as it would be best to have younger fresher fighter, don't know what's happening with O'donnell, but can't see him fighting for the English, Hall needs a fight, he would take it, Selkirk won't do the weight, O'meara might take it, but doubt it on a Hearn show, Maxwell would take it tommorow, Al Harbi wants it, according to twitter and would be a good fight, apparently Ball has retired and out of the eliminator with Al Harbi, which in turn would free Al Harbi, Cox is fighting on a Warren show, Rose is fighting Webb in december, Mansouri has a chance, would take it to Ochieng, ( depending on prizefighter ) maybe a Quigley rematch, it was a great fight last time, if Quigley changes his tactics could be closer, I think Ochiengs team will go safe, someone like Nathan Graham, who will put up a good fight, but not be too much of a threat, like Lowe. Does Ochieng sell enough tickets to bring in a good name from abroad ? If he does that will be the best bet, but I am sure Hearn would have got him a shot at an IBF International title by now if he did or made a big offer for Cox, personally I don't think he would want to risk losing a shot at the british or commonwealth against some of the fighters above, Rose will vacate the british if he beats Webb, then they will be a rush for it, unless someone already has something in place.
Cox fight for WBO Inter. has been cancelled so cox vs ochieng will be 1st choice then the other options will have to wait until this fight definatley not happening 2nd option will be international or intercontinental. Hearns has made it clear from the start if he can, Ochieng will not be fighting for the English again so all the other fighters you have mentioned will have to wait like Al Harbi & Pryce. Boxers like O'mera will not be interested in Eng belt his waiting for British or commonwealth as Cox and O'meara both FW camp and FW likes to keep things in house so it's all IF'S BUT'S AND MAYBES.
Do you think Hearn will put up the money needed for the Cox fight, would be a great fight if it comes off, Cox comes looking for a ko and Ochieng has skills, on the International title front, need to get moving on an opponent, it's getting closer to the date, but plenty of options.

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 14:17
by palooka
When did Cox win the Commonwealth? I can remember him years ago in the ABA's; if he's getting in with Erick then I hope he's match fit and had some real hard spars or he'll spoil his record; he were lucky last time out and whatever problems he's got out the ring need to get sorted else i'll be a shame for him and us fans.

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 14:30
by Peter Parker
palooka wrote:When did Cox win the Commonwealth? I can remember him years ago in the ABA's; if he's getting in with Erick then I hope he's match fit and had some real hard spars or he'll spoil his record; he were lucky last time out and whatever problems he's got out the ring need to get sorted else i'll be a shame for him and us fans.
I can't remember him ever unfit for a fight ? He always seems in shape, maybe his head is not always there, but can't see him being unfit, these are the fights we want to see, watching Billie Joe totally out box and out fight the faded Pryce did nothing for me.

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 15:00
by IronLiver
Bradley pryce?

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 20:02
by mcato
palooka wrote:When did Cox win the Commonwealth? I can remember him years ago in the ABA's; if he's getting in with Erick then I hope he's match fit and had some real hard spars or he'll spoil his record; he were lucky last time out and whatever problems he's got out the ring need to get sorted else i'll be a shame for him and us fans.
Cox vs Ochieng would be good but will FW let this happen?

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 03:29
by sugar sweet 1
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Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 11:16
by mcato
Talkischeap wrote:
mcato wrote:
palooka wrote:When did Cox win the Commonwealth? I can remember him years ago in the ABA's; if he's getting in with Erick then I hope he's match fit and had some real hard spars or he'll spoil his record; he were lucky last time out and whatever problems he's got out the ring need to get sorted else i'll be a shame for him and us fans.
Cox vs Ochieng would be good but will FW let this happen?
Jamie must defend against Obodai Sai. Why should Jamie box Eric ? No gain whatsoever
So this issue hasn't been sorted yet? Will he fight Sai? Was he hoping to win WBO inter. and them vacate commonwealth

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 13:54
by Peter Parker
sugar sweet 1 wrote:i did box terrible against billy joe,but after boxing butler.mendy then saunders all at middle kind of lose the heart to bother,im begging for a fight at light-middle and will box anyone,im not with a promoter so im ready and waiting,i believe i can beat any of the light-middles,im with new trainer now and excited to box again,its been a long time,i promise my next performance will be my best 1. :bag: :bag: :bag:
I hope so Bradley, your career has been up an down, how you could be fighting at middle, when you used to fight at welter and then light middle, only you know, you where brilliant against Small, terrible against Hall and have been a bit ordinary since, couple that with you moving up in weight, it has not been one of the best times in your career, I hope you can recapture your old form, but if you can't, don't just do it for the pay days, as you were once a good champion.

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 30 Oct 2012, 04:14
by mcato
Talkischeap wrote:It's been said the rest of Jamie's business is Jamie's business
OK but if Jamie knows he is not gonna fight Sai why dont he vacate???? I know boxers are not there to do favours for anyone else but Jamie is not going to Ghana so vacate!

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 30 Oct 2012, 06:02
by maley1984
according to his facebook jamie cox has parted with fw " best feeling ever to be free from a contract in which you were bullied to sign then safted farewell!!! and hopefully a better future" surely no reason why hearn cant make the cox ochering match now.

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 30 Oct 2012, 07:44
by mcato
maley1984 wrote:according to his facebook jamie cox has parted with fw " best feeling ever to be free from a contract in which you were bullied to sign then safted farewell!!! and hopefully a better future" surely no reason why hearn cant make the cox ochering match now.
He might not be with FW (which i'm not sure about) but still has to fight Sai for the commonwealth in Ghana thats why he tried to get a pop at the WBO Inter. title

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 30 Oct 2012, 09:19
by mcato
Talkischeap wrote:
mcato wrote:
maley1984 wrote:according to his facebook jamie cox has parted with fw " best feeling ever to be free from a contract in which you were bullied to sign then safted farewell!!! and hopefully a better future" surely no reason why hearn cant make the cox ochering match now.
He might not be with FW (which i'm not sure about) but still has to fight Sai for the commonwealth in Ghana thats why he tried to get a pop at the WBO Inter. title
Mervyn, Jamie refused the WBO inter which I thought was a bad move but ultimately Jamie's decision. Jamie doesn't have to do anything other than please himself & I will always have his back.
I understand but what seems to be the issue here? Is Jamie in contact issues with FW? and issues with Commonwealth? If issues with both I can see that it's a messy situation and very frustrating for Jamie if he is fit and ready to go. Why did he refuse the WBO inter?

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 30 Oct 2012, 09:55
by mcato
Talkischeap wrote:With respect I think I've answered as well I can.
It sounds like a real complicated one, however I hope Jamie sorts it all out and back in the ring soon as. As for Ochieng I'm sure Hearns will fing something for he for the 8 Dec I know Erick doesnt want to defend Eng belt again but he might not have a choice.

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 30 Oct 2012, 18:54
by mcato
Talkischeap wrote:Me too all the best for Dec 8 nice lad Eric boxed in Jersey with my son Thomas six years back
OK I'll ask him about that. Yes he is a good honest lad that really enjoys boxing and goe to schools ,youth clubs & churches to speak to young people to encourage them.....a very nice lad.

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 01 Nov 2012, 07:11
by mcato
mcato wrote:
Talkischeap wrote:Me too all the best for Dec 8 nice lad Eric boxed in Jersey with my son Thomas six years back
OK I'll ask him about that. Yes he is a good honest lad that really enjoys boxing and goe to schools ,youth clubs & churches to speak to young people to encourage them.....a very nice lad.
It could be possible that Ochieng gets to fight the winner on Prizefighter. All things are possible!

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 01 Nov 2012, 08:32
by Looking On
mcato wrote:
mcato wrote:
Talkischeap wrote:Me too all the best for Dec 8 nice lad Eric boxed in Jersey with my son Thomas six years back
OK I'll ask him about that. Yes he is a good honest lad that really enjoys boxing and goe to schools ,youth clubs & churches to speak to young people to encourage them.....a very nice lad.
It could be possible that Ochieng gets to fight the winner on Prizefighter. All things are possible!

If Valentine wins (Hes my Prediction) then id rather he got a couple more wins under his belt to improve his record before boxing someone like Ochieng again .

But id assume Matchroom gets options on Prizefighter entrants ?

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 01 Nov 2012, 10:28
by mcato
Valentine vs Ochieng II would be great!

PF suits Valentine's style the best

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 01 Nov 2012, 12:01
by mcato
Talkischeap wrote:Ye good luck to the man
Yep! I second that

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 18 Dec 2012, 10:20
by sucracristo
Peter Parker wrote:
Adamj1987 wrote:Ishe smith a win over him will shokt him up the rankings
Ishe Smith is a really good fighter, might be too good and too much money, always been on the verge of something big, without quite getting there.
sorry to revive a dead thread, but if smith isn't currently ranked, how can he be scheduled to challenge for k-9's IBF title in february? is there some contender magic happening at the IBF? i thought you had to defend against the top contender, and then anyone else in the top 10, within a year of winning the title. i haven't seen anybody put his title on the line against an unranked fighter in a long time, especially against someone who has a decent chance at winning. It's an extra defence of your title against a worthy challenger in addition to the 2 mandatories that you don't have to make. maybe there is tv $$ in it?

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 18 Dec 2012, 10:32
by Caustic
sucracristo wrote:sorry to revive a dead thread, but if smith isn't currently ranked, how can he be scheduled to challenge for k-9's IBF title in february? is there some contender magic happening at the IBF? i thought you had to defend against the top contender, and then anyone else in the top 10, within a year of winning the title. i haven't seen anybody put his title on the line against an unranked fighter in a long time, especially against someone who has a decent chance at winning. It's an extra defence of your title against a worthy challenger in addition to the 2 mandatories that you don't have to make. maybe there is tv $$ in it?
The IBF 11st title is practically dormant these days (I made a comment on another thread regarding Bundrages 'annual outing') so I imagine the IBF are grateful anyone wants to contest it.