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Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 31 Oct 2012, 03:59
by lillywhite14
I can see it being avoided if Fury beats Boytsov and then Helenius where as Price beats Skelton and another for his outright Lonsdale belt!

Furys camp would cite a far superior record and want 80% of the purse!

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 31 Oct 2012, 14:40
by dookus
According to the BBC, this will be a WBC eliminator!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/20151480

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 31 Oct 2012, 14:48
by dammage7
boystov wanted wbo eliminator

wbc elim is between the tomato can masher chris areola and stiverne (who????exactly)

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 31 Oct 2012, 15:24
by jameswilson
Hennessy does have a good history with the WBC tho doesn't he. Froch, Witter and Eastman all got their way to a World title shot via the WBC Mandatory route.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 31 Oct 2012, 15:30
by britishboxers
Tyson Fury to face Denis Boytsov next confirms Peter Fury.

Plus Fury says "After this fight we want to take Price on and show every one it was a mistake on their part. Tyson will take a back step to give them the fight. My view is it should be left down the line as Price hasn't done enough. But we will take it, It's up to them!" - Peter Fury

http://www.britishboxers.co.uk/2012/10/ ... -next.html

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 31 Oct 2012, 16:20
by jameswilson
britishboxers wrote:Tyson Fury to face Denis Boytsov next confirms Peter Fury.

Plus Fury says "After this fight we want to take Price on and show every one it was a mistake on their part. Tyson will take a back step to give them the fight. My view is it should be left down the line as Price hasn't done enough. But we will take it, It's up to them!" - Peter Fury

http://www.britishboxers.co.uk/2012/10/ ... -next.html
It's all well and good saying it tho, I think the promotional issues will keep the 2 apart for a little while longer.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 31 Oct 2012, 16:49
by lillywhite14
To be fair if Fury fights and beats Boytsov in an eliminator then Price is a step back. Without a doubt.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 31 Oct 2012, 19:32
by keithmoonhangover
Great match up, good solid test (much better than Skelton) and another win for my man Fury. :TU:

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 01 Nov 2012, 02:54
by jessi
lillywhite14 wrote:To be fair if Fury fights and beats Boytsov in an eliminator then Price is a step back. Without a doubt.
price will destroy fury or boytsov, fury deep down knows it too !
Hennesey certainly does.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 01 Nov 2012, 04:18
by lillywhite14
jessi wrote:
lillywhite14 wrote:To be fair if Fury fights and beats Boytsov in an eliminator then Price is a step back. Without a doubt.
price will destroy fury or boytsov, fury deep down knows it too !
Hennesey certainly does.
Maybe. Thing is, I can't see him going from defending his British title to fighting the winner of a world title eliminator in one step. The other chap will ask who exactly has Price beat to deserve the fight?

I think Price beats both, he certainly don't smash Fury though. It will be a fairly close fight.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 01 Nov 2012, 06:29
by milpool
I like this match up. Not a fan of Fury but I think he wins this as his sheer size will be enough to overpower Boytsov.
He won't have it all his own way but I see a late round stoppage which will be an impressive scalp.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 01 Nov 2012, 06:32
by earsjohn
lillywhite14 wrote:
jessi wrote:
lillywhite14 wrote:To be fair if Fury fights and beats Boytsov in an eliminator then Price is a step back. Without a doubt.
price will destroy fury or boytsov, fury deep down knows it too !
Hennesey certainly does.
Maybe. Thing is, I can't see him going from defending his British title to fighting the winner of a world title eliminator in one step. The other chap will ask who exactly has Price beat to deserve the fight?

I think Price beats both, he certainly don't smash Fury though. It will be a fairly close fight.
Mariusz Wach faces Wladimir Klitschko on saturday having beaten Tye Fields to earn his shot.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 01 Nov 2012, 08:54
by danconnollyeire
earsjohn wrote: Mariusz Wach faces Wladimir Klitschko on saturday having beaten Tye Fields to earn his shot.
True and Fields is an American Footballer who got KOd at Prizefighter. Chisora got his shot after losing to two fringe top 10ers. Charr's best win was Danny Williams. The divison is so shite you only need to beat one hasbeen and you get catapulted to a title shot!

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 01 Nov 2012, 09:28
by Karl Jade
danconnollyeire wrote:
earsjohn wrote: Mariusz Wach faces Wladimir Klitschko on saturday having beaten Tye Fields to earn his shot.
True and Fields is an American Footballer who got KOd at Prizefighter. Chisora got his shot after losing to two fringe top 10ers. Charr's best win was Danny Williams. The divison is so shite you only need to beat one hasbeen and you get catapulted to a title shot!
Chisora lost to one fringe top 10 fighter.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 01 Nov 2012, 09:33
by jessi
lillywhite14 wrote:
jessi wrote:
lillywhite14 wrote:To be fair if Fury fights and beats Boytsov in an eliminator then Price is a step back. Without a doubt.
price will destroy fury or boytsov, fury deep down knows it too !
Hennesey certainly does.
Maybe. Thing is, I can't see him going from defending his British title to fighting the winner of a world title eliminator in one step. The other chap will ask who exactly has Price beat to deserve the fight?

I think Price beats both, he certainly don't smash Fury though. It will be a fairly close fight.
Fury will IMO go down heavily, if he manages to get to his feet he will go down again immediately, he won't get up from that in time, if this happens in the first 5 rounds and price dosent take to many shots back I would class it as smashing him up, remember this and wait and see !

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 01 Nov 2012, 09:34
by SteveDow
Kudos to Fury for taking this. It's a tough fight but one he should win. I think they'll make the Price fight for next Summer, probably at the MEN or even possibly outdoors.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 01 Nov 2012, 09:43
by danconnollyeire
Karl Jade wrote:
danconnollyeire wrote:
earsjohn wrote: Mariusz Wach faces Wladimir Klitschko on saturday having beaten Tye Fields to earn his shot.
True and Fields is an American Footballer who got KOd at Prizefighter. Chisora got his shot after losing to two fringe top 10ers. Charr's best win was Danny Williams. The divison is so shite you only need to beat one hasbeen and you get catapulted to a title shot!
Chisora lost to one fringe top 10 fighter.
That's even worse he got a title shot, clarifying my point even more

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 01 Nov 2012, 14:14
by Adamj1987
if fury wins it will prove a point to a friend

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 01 Nov 2012, 15:20
by Finn
massive respect to tyson on this one - most rate boytsov as one of the few class HW's (by most i mean most of the current scene but still he's a big risk) i would have thought boytsov would be bookies favourite in most countries.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 02 Nov 2012, 10:38
by brian13
The fight isn't a final eliminator.

Its now classed as a semi-eliminator :lol: by the WBC.

I wonder who is fighting in the quarter-eliminator.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 02 Nov 2012, 10:58
by earsjohn
brian13 wrote:The fight isn't a final eliminator.

Its now classed as a semi-eliminator :lol: by the WBC.

I wonder who is fighting in the quarter-eliminator.
As an eliminator it is meaningless. A final eliminator between Stiverne and Arreola will determine who is the mandatory to face Vitali. So what this fight will determine is who is next in line to earn a final eliminator for a shot at Vitali when his next mandatory defence is due.

Take away any title credentials, however, and this is a quality fight between two unbeaten fringe world level contenders. The winner can be serioulsy considered worthy of a title shot while the loser doesn't necessarily lose much standing and can easily come back against a Dimitrenko, Chisora or Chambers type opponent.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 02 Nov 2012, 11:53
by jameswilson
earsjohn wrote:
brian13 wrote:The fight isn't a final eliminator.

Its now classed as a semi-eliminator :lol: by the WBC.

I wonder who is fighting in the quarter-eliminator.
As an eliminator it is meaningless. A final eliminator between Stiverne and Arreola will determine who is the mandatory to face Vitali. So what this fight will determine is who is next in line to earn a final eliminator for a shot at Vitali when his next mandatory defence is due.

Take away any title credentials, however, and this is a quality fight between two unbeaten fringe world level contenders. The winner can be serioulsy considered worthy of a title shot while the loser doesn't necessarily lose much standing and can easily come back against a Dimitrenko, Chisora or Chambers type opponent.
When you consider Vitali is either going to have one more fight, or no more fights tho it actually could be deciding who will face Arreola/Stiverne for the vacant title.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 02 Nov 2012, 15:03
by keithmoonhangover
jameswilson wrote:
earsjohn wrote:
brian13 wrote:The fight isn't a final eliminator.

Its now classed as a semi-eliminator :lol: by the WBC.

I wonder who is fighting in the quarter-eliminator.
As an eliminator it is meaningless. A final eliminator between Stiverne and Arreola will determine who is the mandatory to face Vitali. So what this fight will determine is who is next in line to earn a final eliminator for a shot at Vitali when his next mandatory defence is due.

Take away any title credentials, however, and this is a quality fight between two unbeaten fringe world level contenders. The winner can be serioulsy considered worthy of a title shot while the loser doesn't necessarily lose much standing and can easily come back against a Dimitrenko, Chisora or Chambers type opponent.
When you consider Vitali is either going to have one more fight, or no more fights tho it actually could be deciding who will face Arreola/Stiverne for the vacant title.
If Vitali retires, then the winner of Arreola vs Stiverne will be given the title (if it's a final eliminator).

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 02 Nov 2012, 15:05
by lillywhite14
If that happens then we have a real candidate for worst heavyweight champion of all time.

To think there are people out there who think the Klits retiring will be good for the division!

Re: Tyson Fury vs Denis Boytsov!!!!! Its on!!!!!

Posted: 02 Nov 2012, 15:07
by jameswilson
keithmoonhangover wrote:
jameswilson wrote:
earsjohn wrote:
As an eliminator it is meaningless. A final eliminator between Stiverne and Arreola will determine who is the mandatory to face Vitali. So what this fight will determine is who is next in line to earn a final eliminator for a shot at Vitali when his next mandatory defence is due.

Take away any title credentials, however, and this is a quality fight between two unbeaten fringe world level contenders. The winner can be serioulsy considered worthy of a title shot while the loser doesn't necessarily lose much standing and can easily come back against a Dimitrenko, Chisora or Chambers type opponent.
When you consider Vitali is either going to have one more fight, or no more fights tho it actually could be deciding who will face Arreola/Stiverne for the vacant title.
If Vitali retires, then the winner of Arreola vs Stiverne will be given the title (if it's a final eliminator).
If he retires before that fight happens then it will be made for the Vacant title. But if he retires afterwards I don't think they will be given the title. I can't think of a time the WBC has done that. The WBO may do it (they did it with Cleverly most recently) but I can't think of the WBC ever just handing a fighter a title without them fighting for it.

Edit - How the frig did I forget Lewis won his WBC belt first time via that method. Has there been a WBC champ since who gained the belt in this fashion?