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Re: Klitschko/Wach and Mares/Moreno - RBR and after the fights
Posted: 10 Nov 2012, 19:26
by crusader
I'd rank him insided the top 30.
Re: Klitschko/Wach and Mares/Moreno - RBR and after the fights
Posted: 10 Nov 2012, 19:26
by Horse
crusader wrote:I'd rank him insided the top 30.
Why?
Re: Klitschko/Wach and Mares/Moreno - RBR and after the fights
Posted: 10 Nov 2012, 19:28
by crusader
I think his resume and the one-sided nature of his wins over the last several years justifies his placement there. Which 30 heavyweights are unarguably ahead of him?
Re: Klitschko/Wach and Mares/Moreno - RBR and after the fights
Posted: 10 Nov 2012, 19:32
by Horse
crusader wrote:I think his resume and the one-sided nature of his wins over the last several years justifies his placement there. Which 30 heavyweights are unarguably ahead of him?
I don't think that there are 30 heavyweights that are unarguably above Wach, but he isn't in my top 30.
Re: Klitschko/Wach and Mares/Moreno - RBR and after the fights
Posted: 10 Nov 2012, 19:34
by crusader
Ok, so you acknowledge that he could reasonably be ranked inside the top 30.
Re: Klitschko/Wach and Mares/Moreno - RBR and after the fights
Posted: 10 Nov 2012, 19:41
by Horse
crusader wrote:Ok, so you acknowledge that he could reasonably be ranked inside the top 30.
If he was very close to the bottom of the top 30 then that would be okay.
Wladimir should be aiming higher than that for opposition though. He should be fighting at least 1 top 10 fighter a year and he hasn't done that in 2012.
Re: Klitschko/Wach and Mares/Moreno - RBR and after the fights
Posted: 10 Nov 2012, 19:46
by crusader
I don't have a problem with those types of opponents if Wlad faces better fighters in between. Given that his last three challengers haven't been good, he's due to fight a better opponent; Povetkin is now claiming that he wants to face Wlad, and I think that would be a suitable bout.
Re: Klitschko/Wach and Mares/Moreno - RBR and after the fights
Posted: 10 Nov 2012, 19:46
by Blodhemn
You dudes watching the Helenius fight? Williams buckled his knees. Lololol
Re: Klitschko/Wach and Mares/Moreno - RBR and after the fights
Posted: 10 Nov 2012, 19:48
by Diamond WEAPON
Blodhemn wrote:You dudes watching the Helenius fight? Williams buckled his knees. Lololol

Re: Klitschko/Wach and Mares/Moreno - RBR and after the fights
Posted: 10 Nov 2012, 19:49
by Tunney
I enjoyed every minute of Wlad-Wach, but Helenius-Williams is a boring fight.
Helenius really is robotic.
Re: Klitschko/Wach and Mares/Moreno - RBR and after the fights
Posted: 10 Nov 2012, 19:51
by Horse
crusader wrote:I don't have a problem with those types of opponents if Wlad faces better fighters in between. Given that his last three challengers haven't been good, he's due to fight a better opponent;
I agree.
crusader wrote:Povetkin is now claiming that he wants to face Wlad, and I think that would be a suitable bout.
Pretty much the best opponent he can fight at the moment.
Re: Klitschko/Wach and Mares/Moreno - RBR and after the fights
Posted: 10 Nov 2012, 19:54
by Diamond WEAPON
Pussvetkin has been ducking Wlad since the ice age, if they finally meet I expect Wlad to smash that cockroach
Re: Klitschko/Wach and Mares/Moreno - RBR and after the fights
Posted: 10 Nov 2012, 20:06
by fightscorecollector
Thnaks for your scores, i also had it 120-107 Wlad