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Rover wrote:Yes, and Stewart was then regarded as a very tough test, having given Holyfield a tough time in his only loss. He was a young, tough, hard hitting prospect. While Foreman had been fighting Ken Lakusta and Terry Armstrong.

By the time Tyson fought Stewart, Holyfield-Foreman was pretty much a done deal.

There is not one bit of evidence that Foreman was ducked by Tyson. If there is, then present it.

Tyson signed for Stewart before Foreman signed to fight Holyfield.
And Saad and I are blaming King, not Tyson.[/quote]

Maybe you need to re-read the title of the thread.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Rover wrote:Yes, and Stewart was then regarded as a very tough test, having given Holyfield a tough time in his only loss. He was a young, tough, hard hitting prospect. While Foreman had been fighting Ken Lakusta and Terry Armstrong.

By the time Tyson fought Stewart, Holyfield-Foreman was pretty much a done deal.

There is not one bit of evidence that Foreman was ducked by Tyson. If there is, then present it.

Tyson signed for Stewart before Foreman signed to fight Holyfield.
And Saad and I are blaming King, not Tyson.

Maybe you need to re-read the title of the thread.[/quote]
I have read it many times, and Saad and I are saying something different.

Rover wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Rover wrote:Yes, and Stewart was then regarded as a very tough test, having given Holyfield a tough time in his only loss. He was a young, tough, hard hitting prospect. While Foreman had been fighting Ken Lakusta and Terry Armstrong.

By the time Tyson fought Stewart, Holyfield-Foreman was pretty much a done deal.

There is not one bit of evidence that Foreman was ducked by Tyson. If there is, then present it.

Tyson signed for Stewart before Foreman signed to fight Holyfield.
And Saad and I are blaming King, not Tyson.

Maybe you need to re-read the title of the thread.

I have read it many times, and Saad and I are saying something different.[/quote]

Ok then, one word answer. Did TYSON duck FOREMAN? Yes or no?

I don't think so; I blame King for it, same as Saad. Our position is pretty simple to grasp.

Rover wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:No, King did.

Yep.

See, Keith? I stated my stance much earlier in agreeing with Saad.

Rover wrote:I don't think so; I blame King for it, same as Saad. Our position is pretty simple to grasp.

'I don't think so' and 'yes'. Make your mind up.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:
I was a Holyfield fan and ain't got much love for Tyson.

And no, there were supposed to be two double headers before Tyson-Foreman, that was what was announced. How is that Tyson ducking Foreman?

How many times do you want me to type it? Time to move on, we will never agree.

You never answered the question about Ruddock or Foreman being a tougher fight at the time....

I thought both of them had a chance to beat him. Either was tough, George was infinitely more money.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I thought both of them had a chance to beat him. Either was tough, George was infinitely more money.

Which was a tougher fight at that time?

keithmoonhangover wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I thought both of them had a chance to beat him. Either was tough, George was infinitely more money.

Which was a tougher fight at that time?

I don't know, they were both tough. If I had to pick one I would say Foreman. That doesn't have much to do with the topic. If you think George was the easier fight for twice as much money, you're not really helping your case. And I already told you I'm bored with this circle.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I thought both of them had a chance to beat him. Either was tough, George was infinitely more money.

Which was a tougher fight at that time?

I don't know, they were both tough. If I had to pick one I would say Foreman. That doesn't have much to do with the topic. If you think George was the easier fight for twice as much money, you're not really helping your case. And I already told you I'm bored with this circle.

Maybe you're bored, because you're full of shit.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:
Which was a tougher fight at that time?

I don't know, they were both tough. If I had to pick one I would say Foreman. That doesn't have much to do with the topic. If you think George was the easier fight for twice as much money, you're not really helping your case. And I already told you I'm bored with this circle.

Maybe you're bored, because you're full of shit.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. Repeating ourselves for another couple pages is a waste of time. You wanted a question answered and I answered it. I'm done now.

Foreman never fought Bowe or Lewis either. Never hear anyone saying Lewis ducked Foreman. George just wanted to win the title again. He did not want to take an unnessary risk and really at that age you couldn't blame him.

Ambling Alp II wrote:Foreman never fought Bowe or Lewis either. Never hear anyone saying Lewis ducked Foreman. George just wanted to win the title again. He did not want to take an unnessary risk and really at that age you couldn't blame him.

Ambling Alp II wrote:Foreman never fought Bowe or Lewis either. Never hear anyone saying Lewis ducked Foreman. George just wanted to win the title again. He did not want to take an unnessary risk and really at that age you couldn't blame him.

George flat out said he didn't want to fight Bowe or Lewis. He always wanted to fight Mike.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Ambling Alp II wrote:Foreman never fought Bowe or Lewis either. Never hear anyone saying Lewis ducked Foreman. George just wanted to win the title again. He did not want to take an unnessary risk and really at that age you couldn't blame him.

George flat out said he didn't want to fight Bowe or Lewis. He always wanted to fight Mike.

Any evidence of that Saad?

Foreman came back to win the title, this is my evidence. 0:56 is all the proof I need. Foreman saying it with his own mouth. He came back for the title, not Tyson.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmG_gR576EA

I'm also guessing Don King went all the way to George's training camp with a contract and an offer of $5,000,000 to fight Tyson because King was 'ducking' George.

As for your edit: 5 million? That's a joke. They would have made at least 40.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

As for your edit: 5 million? That's a joke. They would have made at least 40.

And that's why George didn't sign. But it was offered. Is that ducking?

More importantly, why ignore the rest of my post? Come one Saad, you're better than just laughing. Prove me wrong.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

As for your edit: 5 million? That's a joke. They would have made at least 40.

And that's why George didn't sign. But it was offered. Is that ducking?

More importantly, why ignore the rest of my post? Come one Saad, you're better than just laughing. Prove me wrong.

I was laughing that you're still on about this. I told you I was finished going in circles with you. I certainly didn't watch your video.

And yes, offering a contract that ridiculous is ducking. You know they won't accept it and you do it to save face. The fact that people like you buy it is not my problem.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

As for your edit: 5 million? That's a joke. They would have made at least 40.

And that's why George didn't sign. But it was offered. Is that ducking?

More importantly, why ignore the rest of my post? Come one Saad, you're better than just laughing. Prove me wrong.

I was laughing that you're still on about this. I told you I was finished going in circles with you. I certainly didn't watch your video.

And yes, offering a contract that ridiculous is ducking. You know they won't accept it and you do it to save face. The fact that people like you buy it is not my problem.

You won't watch my video. You sound like a six year old, you really do. It's Foreman proving I'm right and you're wrong, but like the child you are, you refuse to face up to the evidence and just admit you're wrong.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

As the saying goes..... "It takes a big man to admit he is wrong." What does that say about you Saad? What does that say about you as a person? Maybe you should speak to someone about it. It might make you a bigger man.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

As the saying goes..... "It takes a big man to admit he is wrong." What does that say about you Saad? What does that say about you as a person? Maybe you should speak to someone about it. It might make you a bigger man.

I know you think you're right. So do I. Why in the world are you so upset about letting it go? Neither of us will ever change our mind. It's kind of funny that you're calling me a child and questioning my character because I'm attempting not to ruin a thread with endless back and forth bickering. The fact that you can't let it go reflects quite ironically on your bizarre post about what makes a man.

Anyway, gloat, complain about questions not being answered or sob. This is my last response to you on this topic.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

As the saying goes..... "It takes a big man to admit he is wrong." What does that say about you Saad? What does that say about you as a person? Maybe you should speak to someone about it. It might make you a bigger man.

I know you think you're right. So do I. Why in the world are you so upset about letting it go? Neither of us will ever change our mind. It's kind of funny that you're calling me a child and questioning my character because I'm attempting not to ruin a thread with endless back and forth bickering. The fact that you can't let it go reflects quite ironically on your bizarre post about what makes a man.

Anyway, gloat, complain about questions not being answered or sob. This is my last response to you on this topic.

No Saad, I don't think I'm right. I know I am and Big George proves it for me in the video. If you watched the video, you would see that you are indeed wrong, but that would mean backing down.

I'm not gloating. I just think it's bizarre that a grown man can't admit defeat. I'm convinced Povetkin beats Wlad and I'll be the first to admit I was wrong if he loses.

About 7 years ago I emailed George as he said on his website that he'd be the one to answer personally, so I asked him about Tyson and how come they didn't fight. He said ' oh boy that's the fight I wanted ' he said when Tyson was champ he tried and tried to get the fight made but Tyson or his team wouldn't make the fight and he also said that when Tyson lost the title he was more interested in going after the champ as he wanted to be the champion of the world.

foremanko wrote:About 7 years ago I emailed George as he said on his website that he'd be the one to answer personally, so I asked him about Tyson and how come they didn't fight. He said ' oh boy that's the fight I wanted ' he said when Tyson was champ he tried and tried to get the fight made but Tyson or his team wouldn't make the fight and he also said that when Tyson lost the title he was more interested in going after the champ as he wanted to be the champion of the world.

King would have never let that fight happen.