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Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 28 Apr 2013, 13:28
by desperados
keithmoonhangover wrote:desperados wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:In fairness to Audley, it's not his fault that his chin can't stand up to Price and Wilder.
and thats the reason he is being offered the cheques to fight them. There's also a reason why he's not been offered fights with Fury or Chisora - he's a tricky fight for anyone that can't blast him out.
Don't be daft man. He not been offered fights with Fury, because Fury has MUCH bigger fish to fry. Fury would put Audley away with ease. He might take two or three rounds, but he puts Audley to sleep. Chisora has also had bigger fish to fry. Maybe you think he's been ducked by the two of them? If so, you're more delusional than Harrison himself.
Bigger fish, like Vinny Maddalone and Hector Avila?
Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 28 Apr 2013, 13:38
by Andypittcov
keithmoonhangover wrote:In fairness to Audley, it's not his fault that his chin can't stand up to Price and Wilder.
It's also not his fault that people believe he's got more talent than he has
Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 28 Apr 2013, 13:41
by keithmoonhangover
desperados wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Don't be daft man. He not been offered fights with Fury, because Fury has MUCH bigger fish to fry. Fury would put Audley away with ease. He might take two or three rounds, but he puts Audley to sleep. Chisora has also had bigger fish to fry. Maybe you think he's been ducked by the two of them? If so, you're more delusional than Harrison himself.
Bigger fish, like Vinny Maddalone and Hector Avila?
Harrison couldn't even beat Rogan, what the hell makes him better than Maddalone?
Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 28 Apr 2013, 13:59
by Horse
keithmoonhangover wrote:Harrison couldn't even beat Rogan, what the hell makes him better than Maddalone?
Who has Maddalone beaten?
Harrison has much better wins.
Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 28 Apr 2013, 13:59
by desperados
keithmoonhangover wrote:desperados wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Don't be daft man. He not been offered fights with Fury, because Fury has MUCH bigger fish to fry. Fury would put Audley away with ease. He might take two or three rounds, but he puts Audley to sleep. Chisora has also had bigger fish to fry. Maybe you think he's been ducked by the two of them? If so, you're more delusional than Harrison himself.
Bigger fish, like Vinny Maddalone and Hector Avila?
Harrison couldn't even beat Rogan, what the hell makes him better than Maddalone?
He won pretty easily against Rogan in all 3 rounds of the last pf.
Maddalone is nothing more than a club fighter not even ranked in the top 100. Audley is infinitely better of both Maddalone and that fat bum Chisora hugged all night with last week. You're having a laugh if you think those opponents are better than Audley

Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 28 Apr 2013, 14:01
by keithmoonhangover
desperados wrote:He won pretty easily against Rogan in all 3 rounds of the last pf.
Maddalone is nothing more than a club fighter not even ranked in the top 100. Audley is infinitely better of both Maddalone and that fat bum Chisora hugged all night with last week. You're having a laugh if you think those opponents are better than Audley

When are gonna wake up? Audley is a bum, with no chin. Why the fook would Fury want to fight him?
Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 28 Apr 2013, 14:06
by desperados
keithmoonhangover wrote:desperados wrote:He won pretty easily against Rogan in all 3 rounds of the last pf.
Maddalone is nothing more than a club fighter not even ranked in the top 100. Audley is infinitely better of both Maddalone and that fat bum Chisora hugged all night with last week. You're having a laugh if you think those opponents are better than Audley

When are gonna wake up? Audley is a bum, with no chin. Why the fook would Fury want to fight him?
Why the fook did he want to fight Maddalone or Rogan?
And no chin? Why because he's been stopped by Haye, Wilder & Price? I guess Chisora has no chin either then.
I'm not saying Fury & Chisora need to step up and take on the might of A-Force, i'm simply pointing out the while Audley has no pulling power, he is 'used' by the matchmakers behind the scenes.
If you promote big hitters like Haye or Price then Audley is the ideal matchmake... your guy KO's an olympic gold medallist.
If your guy isn't a puncher like Fury or Chisora, you overlook guys like Audley & chose someone else because he's problematic.
Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 28 Apr 2013, 14:12
by keithmoonhangover
desperados wrote:
If your guy isn't a puncher like Fury or Chisora, you overlook guys like Audley & chose someone else because he's problematic.
Bullshit. When exactly should Fury taken on the epic challenge that is Audley Harrison?
As for Chisora, He fought Helenius, Klitschko and Haye, then fought a guy a week before Harrison fought Wilder. Chisora was offered to Price, so clearly, he's ducking the big fights.

Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 28 Apr 2013, 14:13
by spudder56
desperados wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:desperados wrote:He won pretty easily against Rogan in all 3 rounds of the last pf.
Maddalone is nothing more than a club fighter not even ranked in the top 100. Audley is infinitely better of both Maddalone and that fat bum Chisora hugged all night with last week. You're having a laugh if you think those opponents are better than Audley

When are gonna wake up? Audley is a bum, with no chin. Why the fook would Fury want to fight him?
Why the fook did he want to fight Maddalone or Rogan?
And no chin? Why because he's been stopped by Haye, Wilder & Price? I guess Chisora has no chin either then.
I'm not saying Fury & Chisora need to step up and take on the might of A-Force, i'm simply pointing out the while Audley has no pulling power, he is 'used' by the matchmakers behind the scenes.
If you promote big hitters like Haye or Price then Audley is the ideal matchmake... your guy KO's an olympic gold medallist.
If your guy isn't a puncher like Fury or Chisora, you overlook guys like Audley & chose someone else because he's problematic.
Fraudley has been very lucky in his career he has conned the public all the way yet still people beleive his spin and keep paying to watch him the saying --- Fools and their money are soon parted comes to mind
Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 28 Apr 2013, 14:22
by desperados
keithmoonhangover wrote:desperados wrote:
If your guy isn't a puncher like Fury or Chisora, you overlook guys like Audley & chose someone else because he's problematic.
Bullshit. When exactly should Fury taken on the epic challenge that is Audley Harrison?
As for Chisora, He fought Helenius, Klitschko and Haye, then fought a guy a week before Harrison fought Wilder. Chisora was offered to Price, so clearly, he's ducking the big fights.

I never said anyone was ducking anyone.
When you are a promoter or manager you plan the career path of your guy. There is a reason why Audley is being used by monster punchers like Wilder & Price and not Chisora or Fury.
Do you think Chisora or Fury blast Audley out in a round?
Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 28 Apr 2013, 14:26
by keithmoonhangover
desperados wrote:
I never said anyone was ducking anyone.
When you are a promoter or manager you plan the career path of your guy. There is a reason why Audley is being used by monster punchers like Wilder & Price and not Chisora or Fury.

Audley isn't being used by promoters, he's being offered big fights and then signing a contract. In what way is that him being 'used'
desperados wrote:Do you think Chisora or Fury blast Audley out in a round?
I've already said it would take Audley three rounds or so, but he would stop him easily. Chisora would beat Audley as well, but would take longer.
Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 28 Apr 2013, 14:36
by desperados
keithmoonhangover wrote:desperados wrote:
I never said anyone was ducking anyone.
When you are a promoter or manager you plan the career path of your guy. There is a reason why Audley is being used by monster punchers like Wilder & Price and not Chisora or Fury.

Audley isn't being used by promoters, he's being offered big fights and then signing a contract. In what way is that him being 'used'
desperados wrote:Do you think Chisora or Fury blast Audley out in a round?
I've already said it would take Audley three rounds or so, but he would stop him easily. Chisora would beat Audley as well, but would take longer.
I'm not sure Audley stops Fury easily, i think he makes it a fustrating fight for him, maybe even getting caught himself, but if Audley caught Fury as flush as cunningham did with his left then you could be right and we'd see A-force stop Fury.
As for Audley vs Chisora... i think it's probably a points win for Del in a messy fight, but not completely ruling out Harrison.
Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 28 Apr 2013, 15:22
by stujones
If Chisora is in terrible shape then Chisora wins a comfortable decision. If Chisora is in shape - he KO's Audley within 4 rounds.
I'd give Audley more of a chance vs Fury and Price than Chisora.... Chisora is all wrong for Audley. He has a good chin for kick off and decent workrate.
Audley's chin is dire now.... okay its Haye, Price and Wilder - possibly the 3 biggest punchers in the devision.... but everytime he's been caught clean - he goes.
Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 28 Apr 2013, 18:53
by iamasadlittleboy
...Possibly the 3 biggest punchers? People think they hit harder than Wlad?...Honestly?
Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 29 Apr 2013, 03:40
by desperados
iamasadlittleboy wrote:...Possibly the 3 biggest punchers? People think they hit harder than Wlad?...Honestly?
Wilder wlad price haye and vitali are probably the top 5 hitters
Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 29 Apr 2013, 04:46
by Rob nelson
Leave fraudly alone he never hurt anyone

Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 29 Apr 2013, 04:53
by Syntax Error
stujones wrote:If Chisora is in terrible shape then Chisora wins a comfortable decision. If Chisora is in shape - he KO's Audley within 4 rounds.
I'd give Audley more of a chance vs Fury and Price than Chisora.... Chisora is all wrong for Audley. He has a good chin for kick off and decent workrate.
Audley's chin is dire now.... okay its Haye, Price and Wilder - possibly the 3 biggest punchers in the devision.... but everytime he's been caught clean - he goes.
Agreed.
Harrison has nowhere to go now; that's unless they put on a a heavyweight Prizefighter every year, then he can win that every year for the rest of his life, or until they run out of taxi drivers & restaurant owners for him to fight.
Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 29 Apr 2013, 05:45
by keithmoonhangover
Rob nelson wrote:Leave fraudly alone he never hurt anyone


Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 29 Apr 2013, 06:06
by iamasadlittleboy
desperados wrote:iamasadlittleboy wrote:...Possibly the 3 biggest punchers? People think they hit harder than Wlad?...Honestly?
Wilder wlad price haye and vitali are probably the top 5 hitters
Not sure I agree with Vitali, most of his punches are arm punches that are grinding more than concussive.
Stiverne, Arreola, Abdulsalamov, Helenius (when he connects clean it's lights out, though he's that bloody slow that he doesn't connect clean too often), Mansour and even Ortiz all carry a fair whack that I'd place near or even above Vitali.
I wouldn't consider Wilder much higher in terms of power than Andy Ruiz Jr (who is certainly much more accurate and faster).
Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 29 Apr 2013, 09:03
by ApolloCreed
Wilder looked terrible too, technique is like a drunk in a pub.
Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 29 Apr 2013, 11:04
by n1ebf
ApolloCreed wrote:Wilder looked terrible too, technique is like a drunk in a pub.
Wilder was supposed to be crap. Which is why when I googled him the first thing that surprised me was what good shape he looks in.
Second, from Youtubing some fights of his he is nowhere near as ungainly as what people were making out.
Thirdly, from the way he speaks of improving, learning from the Klitschkos etc he is clearly intelligent, ambitious, always looking to improve.
Although Audley decided to be a punchbag and do nothing, Wilder was still pretty fast - he was a lot better than I was expecting him to be anyway.
Harrison is very lucky he didn't get knocked unconscious as Wilder was cautious, his bad intentions were clear but he still gave Audley AMPLE time to make the first move or offer any kind of a deterrent. If Audley had flung his left hand at this man, who has not faced much resistance to date, he might have put the American on
his back, but he didn't, he just stood and did nothing and waited to get taken out. He really is mugging his family off every time he puts his deluded self in a boxing ring IMO.
Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 29 Apr 2013, 11:23
by rhino222
NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:ApolloCreed wrote:Wilder looked terrible too, technique is like a drunk in a pub.
Wilder was supposed to be crap. Which is why when I googled him the first thing that surprised me was what good shape he looks in.
Second, from Youtubing some fights of his he is nowhere near as ungainly as what people were making out.
Thirdly, from the way he speaks of improving, learning from the Klitschkos etc he is clearly intelligent, ambitious, always looking to improve.
Although Audley decided to be a punchbag and do nothing, Wilder was still pretty fast - he was a lot better than I was expecting him to be anyway.
Harrison is very lucky he didn't get knocked unconscious as Wilder was cautious, his bad intentions were clear but he still gave Audley AMPLE time to make the first move or offer any kind of a deterrent. If Audley had flung his left hand at this man, who has not faced much resistance to date, he might have put the American on
his back, but he didn't, he just stood and did nothing and waited to get taken out. He really is mugging his family off every time he puts his deluded self in a boxing ring IMO.
but....he is laughing all the way to the leeds, audley is a very rich man!!
Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 29 Apr 2013, 11:31
by rhino222
has audley ever been hurt in a fight and actually managed to carry on, ride out the storm, and win?
we knock khan but he stages recoveries for a living!!
Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 29 Apr 2013, 11:33
by iamasadlittleboy
rhino222 wrote:has audley ever been hurt in a fight and actually managed to carry on, ride out the storm, and win?
we knock khan but he stages recoveries for a living!!
The Sprott rematch where he fought with 1 arm?
Re: This Fraudly love is making me sick!!
Posted: 29 Apr 2013, 11:56
by rhino222
iamasadlittleboy wrote:rhino222 wrote:has audley ever been hurt in a fight and actually managed to carry on, ride out the storm, and win?
we knock khan but he stages recoveries for a living!!
The Sprott rematch where he fought with 1 arm?
that was audleys excuse as to why he malperformed. I mean where he has been punched, hurt, hung on, took a knee etc, cleared his head and cracked on and fought back and won.
i dont think that its actually in his make up.