brian13 wrote:I agree with Cleverly being low and he should be lower in my eyes because Horse is right his opponents have been terrible recently. He is fighting crap and the fact he is a WBO world champion means he is so high. I would probably put Cleverly lower down in my list than five.
Don't agree with Murray being so high though. He still lost to Martinez and drew to Sturm.
Losing to Martinez and drawing with Sturm is still better than just about anything anyone else on the list has achieved.
being given a generous draw against Sturm and obviously LOSING to a wounded, old and shot Martinez is nothing compared to what Carl Froch and Amir Khan have done...
Every one on that list must be sad and complete shite if they dont measure up to Martin Murrays losses.
Sids wrote:being given a generous draw against Sturm and obviously LOSING to a wounded, old and shot Martinez is nothing compared to what Carl Froch and Amir Khan have done...
Yes, it is.
Sids wrote:Every one on that list must be sad and complete shite if they dont measure up to Martin Murrays losses.
Sids wrote:being given a generous draw against Sturm and obviously LOSING to a wounded, old and shot Martinez is nothing compared to what Carl Froch and Amir Khan have done...
Yes, it is.
Sids wrote:Every one on that list must be sad and complete shite if they dont measure up to Martin Murrays losses.
You are very stupid if that is your opinion.
A LOSS to Martinez a win over 12-0 Novarro (a full time garbage truck driver) a win over 13-2-2 Karim Achour (french kitchenhand) a generous draw against Sturm and a huge victory over the very yound and inexperinced 8-0 Nick Blackwell.
Your right I am stupid everyone knows it takes a p4p great fighter to beat up south american council workers and college students.
Sids wrote:A LOSS to Martinez a win over 12-0 Novarro (a full time garbage truck driver) a win over 13-2-2 Karim Achour (french kitchenhand) a generous draw against Sturm and a huge victory over the very yound and inexperinced 8-0 Nick Blackwell.
Your right I am stupid everyone knows it takes a p4p great fighter to beat up south american council workers and college students.
Am i the only one who is sick of Nathan Cleverly fighting bums? His last three opponents (world title defences) have been against guys ranked outside the top 40. Who else gets away with this? Should not be in the top 10 p4p list.
gazzman87 wrote:Am i the only one who is sick of Nathan Cleverly fighting bums? His last three opponents (world title defences) have been against guys ranked outside the top 40. Who else gets away with this? Should not be in the top 10 p4p list.
I'm sick of it too, but I think he still has a solid claim to a lower top 10 place.
If he hasn't fought Braehmer or someone as good or better by the end of the year then he probably does deserve to drop out of the top 10.
