Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

David Haye
210
81%
Tyson Fury
33
13%
David Price
8
3%
Dereck Chisora
2
1%
Richard Towers
1
0%
Dillian Whyte
5
2%
 
Total votes: 259

Karl Jade
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by Karl Jade »

I agree with that, tbh. Haye's the obvious choice but h2h I'd fancy Price to beat them all.
Maxsplit
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by Maxsplit »

lillywhite14 wrote:
Chambers2 wrote:Haye's the easy pick, but I've gone for Pricey. He's got his vulnerabilities, but when you can bang like he does!!!!
Has he banged out anyone of note yet?

Always a question worth asking! He looks powerful but he hasn't stopped anyone who hasn't been done before ( Dallas being the exception )
His best win to date is Sam Sexton who he beat in 5 rounds.

Chisora beat Sexton in 6.

Thompson KOd Price in 2.

I am not convinced the power is quite as significant as it is made out to be once you step up the class. Price has also KOd (rather than TKOd) the exact same number of opponents as Tyson Fury, but Fury's opposition has been leagues ahead of Price, yet no one speaks of Fury's power ... Despite him being the first person to ever stop Cunningham.

David Haye though is the best British heavyweight by some distance and probably second only to Lennox Lewis of all time :TU:
jtourettes
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by jtourettes »

Karl Jade wrote:I agree with that, tbh. Haye's the obvious choice but h2h I'd fancy Price to beat them all.
No way, not with that chin.
warriorbox
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by warriorbox »

Maxsplit wrote:David Haye though is the best British heavyweight by some distance and probably second only to Lennox Lewis of all time :TU:
Certain I'll get some stick for this but I think Bruno would have got Haye out of there very quickly, 1-2 rounds.
CiganoBoxer
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by CiganoBoxer »

Karl Jade wrote:I agree with that, tbh. Haye's the obvious choice but h2h I'd fancy Price to beat them all.
However is Price gonna beat Haye ? he cant even take a cuff up the side of the ear or beat Thompson FFS :lol:
JC
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by JC »

warriorbox wrote:
Maxsplit wrote:David Haye though is the best British heavyweight by some distance and probably second only to Lennox Lewis of all time :TU:
Certain I'll get some stick for this but I think Bruno would have got Haye out of there very quickly, 1-2 rounds.
I'm a Haye fan but he's only had six fights at HW and against not the greatest opposition (bar Wlad obviously). I don't think you can put him ahead of the likes of Bruno and Bugner on that basis.
Dixonian
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by Dixonian »

lillywhite14 wrote:
Newport Daz wrote:If Price had even an average chin I'd be tempted to say him. He seems to have everything going for him but I just can't have any confidence in his chin. So I went for Haye instead.
Price fights "too small". Doesn't take advantage of his reach, the jab needs work considering it could be a great weapon given his size. Doesn't deal well with pressure. Footowrk isnt the best. He has a lot missing I think. His power is the equaliser.
He's strangely reticent with the jab, yet willing to step in with the right hand. Odd, when he says that the Klitschkos are the model he hopes to follow.
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by Syntax Error »

David Haye by far.

I'm surprised it isn't 100% for Haye.
keithmoonhangover
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by keithmoonhangover »

Fury. :bag: :bag: :bag:
jessi
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by jessi »

keithmoonhangover wrote:Fury. :bag: :bag: :bag:
But in your heart of hearts do you honestly believe fury beats haye ?
MarkMcBurney
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by MarkMcBurney »

Haye by a country mile.
keithmoonhangover
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by keithmoonhangover »

jessi wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Fury. :bag: :bag: :bag:
But in your heart of hearts do you honestly believe fury beats haye ?
If he fights at his best, yes. Haye is on the way down.
lefty
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by lefty »

keithmoonhangover wrote:
jessi wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Fury. :bag: :bag: :bag:
But in your heart of hearts do you honestly believe fury beats haye ?
If he fights at his best, yes. Haye is on the way down.
No offence but no way! Fury makes to many mistakes which Haye would Capitalise on. Getting hit by Haye like he did Cunningham would probably mean curtains, and if not, Haye would just jump all over him after the count.
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by keithmoonhangover »

columbo wrote: No offence but no way! Fury makes to many mistakes which Haye would Capitalise on. Getting hit by Haye like he did Cunningham would probably mean curtains, and if not, Haye would just jump all over him after the count.
He didn't fights take Cunningham seriously. He won't do that aagainst Have.
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by dammage7 »

keithmoonhangover wrote:
columbo wrote: No offence but no way! Fury makes to many mistakes which Haye would Capitalise on. Getting hit by Haye like he did Cunningham would probably mean curtains, and if not, Haye would just jump all over him after the count.
He didn't fights take Cunningham seriously. He won't do that aagainst Have.
basically fury has a 4 choices to make.
He can duck Pulev AND Haye and fight another small weak dude
He can pick Pulev in Eliminator - if he wins, he can fight haye, Wladimir or most likely, withdraw his mandatory
he can pick Haye for 10X more money in the fall.

A loss to Pulev means back to the beginning, a risk we will not take
He already ducked Haye
and he will not fight Wlad

Its painfully obvious he gonna fight some fighter on the way down
keithmoonhangover
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by keithmoonhangover »

dammage7 wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
columbo wrote: No offence but no way! Fury makes to many mistakes which Haye would Capitalise on. Getting hit by Haye like he did Cunningham would probably mean curtains, and if not, Haye would just jump all over him after the count.
He didn't fights take Cunningham seriously. He won't do that aagainst Have.
basically fury has a 4 choices to make.
He can duck Pulev AND Haye and fight another small weak dude
He can pick Pulev in Eliminator - if he wins, he can fight haye, Wladimir or most likely, withdraw his mandatory
he can pick Haye for 10X more money in the fall.

A loss to Pulev means back to the beginning, a risk we will not take
He already ducked Haye
and he will not fight Wlad

Its painfully obvious he gonna fight some fighter on the way down

He will not duck Pulev. Come back and apologise when he fights him.... And wins.
the truth
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

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warriorbox wrote:
Maxsplit wrote:David Haye though is the best British heavyweight by some distance and probably second only to Lennox Lewis of all time :TU:
Certain I'll get some stick for this but I think Bruno would have got Haye out of there very quickly, 1-2 rounds.


Hahaha yeah you will , Haye far to athletic and powerful , would land at willing Bruno and stop him
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by the truth »

Imagine Bruno going in with valuev, he would of shit himself and do the cross sign about 100 times before the first bell! Bruno was a big strong body builder type, look at his record , most his opponents were no great shakes..,
warriorbox
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by warriorbox »

the truth wrote:
warriorbox wrote:
Maxsplit wrote:David Haye though is the best British heavyweight by some distance and probably second only to Lennox Lewis of all time :TU:
Certain I'll get some stick for this but I think Bruno would have got Haye out of there very quickly, 1-2 rounds.


Hahaha yeah you will , Haye far to athletic and powerful , would land at willing Bruno and stop him
Lol. I don't know, the Bruno vs Tyson 1, or the first couple of rounds against Lewis would be a match for any heavyweight in todays age. Would Haye last 6 rounds against a near peak Mike Tyson - I have serious doubts.
the truth
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by the truth »

Did Bruno last 6 rounds against a " peak" Tyson ? When? Because when he boxed Tyson in 89 he was passed his " peak"
warriorbox
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by warriorbox »

the truth wrote:Did Bruno last 6 rounds against a " peak" Tyson ? When? Because when he boxed Tyson in 89 he was passed his " peak"
I said 'near peak' :OhYes:

Would Haye have lasted that first round against Tyson? Don't think so :bag:
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by Syntax Error »

the truth wrote:Did Bruno last 6 rounds against a " peak" Tyson ? When? Because when he boxed Tyson in 89 he was passed his " peak"
When since was Tyson past his peak in '89?
lillywhite14
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by lillywhite14 »

Bruno Haye is a pick em. Both carry enough to take out the other.

Haye has achieved more in his career though so should rank higher.
warriorbox
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by warriorbox »

lillywhite14 wrote:Bruno Haye is a pick em. Both carry enough to take out the other.

Haye has achieved more in his career though so should rank higher.
Not sure Haye has achieved more at heavyweight? I would say they are pretty even right now, I would fancy Bruno to make quick work of the Ruiz that turned up for the Haye fight or Monte Barrett that got chinned by Cliff flippin Couser and Chisora - Valuev maybe a different story as I don't think Bruno would have had the boxing smarts to deal with him although Valuev wasn't really a big puncher or a busy fighter, so who knows.

Really depends what Haye does from now to determine his place in historic British heavyweight rankings really.
mickey1975
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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Post by mickey1975 »

As a Heavyweight, Bruno has achieved more. McCall is better than Valuev, Frank has several better wins over contenders than Haye and heroic losses to Tyson(1) and Lewis are much better than running like a bitch against Wlad.
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