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Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 02 May 2013, 19:26
by Karl Jade
I agree with that, tbh. Haye's the obvious choice but h2h I'd fancy Price to beat them all.

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 03 May 2013, 02:52
by Maxsplit
lillywhite14 wrote:
Chambers2 wrote:Haye's the easy pick, but I've gone for Pricey. He's got his vulnerabilities, but when you can bang like he does!!!!
Has he banged out anyone of note yet?

Always a question worth asking! He looks powerful but he hasn't stopped anyone who hasn't been done before ( Dallas being the exception )
His best win to date is Sam Sexton who he beat in 5 rounds.

Chisora beat Sexton in 6.

Thompson KOd Price in 2.

I am not convinced the power is quite as significant as it is made out to be once you step up the class. Price has also KOd (rather than TKOd) the exact same number of opponents as Tyson Fury, but Fury's opposition has been leagues ahead of Price, yet no one speaks of Fury's power ... Despite him being the first person to ever stop Cunningham.

David Haye though is the best British heavyweight by some distance and probably second only to Lennox Lewis of all time :TU:

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 03 May 2013, 05:06
by jtourettes
Karl Jade wrote:I agree with that, tbh. Haye's the obvious choice but h2h I'd fancy Price to beat them all.
No way, not with that chin.

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 03 May 2013, 05:27
by warriorbox
Maxsplit wrote:David Haye though is the best British heavyweight by some distance and probably second only to Lennox Lewis of all time :TU:
Certain I'll get some stick for this but I think Bruno would have got Haye out of there very quickly, 1-2 rounds.

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 03 May 2013, 07:59
by CiganoBoxer
Karl Jade wrote:I agree with that, tbh. Haye's the obvious choice but h2h I'd fancy Price to beat them all.
However is Price gonna beat Haye ? he cant even take a cuff up the side of the ear or beat Thompson FFS :lol:

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 03 May 2013, 08:11
by JC
warriorbox wrote:
Maxsplit wrote:David Haye though is the best British heavyweight by some distance and probably second only to Lennox Lewis of all time :TU:
Certain I'll get some stick for this but I think Bruno would have got Haye out of there very quickly, 1-2 rounds.
I'm a Haye fan but he's only had six fights at HW and against not the greatest opposition (bar Wlad obviously). I don't think you can put him ahead of the likes of Bruno and Bugner on that basis.

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 03 May 2013, 11:05
by Dixonian
lillywhite14 wrote:
Newport Daz wrote:If Price had even an average chin I'd be tempted to say him. He seems to have everything going for him but I just can't have any confidence in his chin. So I went for Haye instead.
Price fights "too small". Doesn't take advantage of his reach, the jab needs work considering it could be a great weapon given his size. Doesn't deal well with pressure. Footowrk isnt the best. He has a lot missing I think. His power is the equaliser.
He's strangely reticent with the jab, yet willing to step in with the right hand. Odd, when he says that the Klitschkos are the model he hopes to follow.

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 03 May 2013, 11:06
by Syntax Error
David Haye by far.

I'm surprised it isn't 100% for Haye.

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 03 May 2013, 14:09
by keithmoonhangover
Fury. :bag: :bag: :bag:

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 04 May 2013, 12:15
by jessi
keithmoonhangover wrote:Fury. :bag: :bag: :bag:
But in your heart of hearts do you honestly believe fury beats haye ?

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 04 May 2013, 13:20
by MarkMcBurney
Haye by a country mile.

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 04 May 2013, 14:56
by keithmoonhangover
jessi wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Fury. :bag: :bag: :bag:
But in your heart of hearts do you honestly believe fury beats haye ?
If he fights at his best, yes. Haye is on the way down.

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 04 May 2013, 15:00
by lefty
keithmoonhangover wrote:
jessi wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Fury. :bag: :bag: :bag:
But in your heart of hearts do you honestly believe fury beats haye ?
If he fights at his best, yes. Haye is on the way down.
No offence but no way! Fury makes to many mistakes which Haye would Capitalise on. Getting hit by Haye like he did Cunningham would probably mean curtains, and if not, Haye would just jump all over him after the count.

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 04 May 2013, 15:29
by keithmoonhangover
columbo wrote: No offence but no way! Fury makes to many mistakes which Haye would Capitalise on. Getting hit by Haye like he did Cunningham would probably mean curtains, and if not, Haye would just jump all over him after the count.
He didn't fights take Cunningham seriously. He won't do that aagainst Have.

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 04 May 2013, 15:34
by dammage7
keithmoonhangover wrote:
columbo wrote: No offence but no way! Fury makes to many mistakes which Haye would Capitalise on. Getting hit by Haye like he did Cunningham would probably mean curtains, and if not, Haye would just jump all over him after the count.
He didn't fights take Cunningham seriously. He won't do that aagainst Have.
basically fury has a 4 choices to make.
He can duck Pulev AND Haye and fight another small weak dude
He can pick Pulev in Eliminator - if he wins, he can fight haye, Wladimir or most likely, withdraw his mandatory
he can pick Haye for 10X more money in the fall.

A loss to Pulev means back to the beginning, a risk we will not take
He already ducked Haye
and he will not fight Wlad

Its painfully obvious he gonna fight some fighter on the way down

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 04 May 2013, 15:39
by keithmoonhangover
dammage7 wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
columbo wrote: No offence but no way! Fury makes to many mistakes which Haye would Capitalise on. Getting hit by Haye like he did Cunningham would probably mean curtains, and if not, Haye would just jump all over him after the count.
He didn't fights take Cunningham seriously. He won't do that aagainst Have.
basically fury has a 4 choices to make.
He can duck Pulev AND Haye and fight another small weak dude
He can pick Pulev in Eliminator - if he wins, he can fight haye, Wladimir or most likely, withdraw his mandatory
he can pick Haye for 10X more money in the fall.

A loss to Pulev means back to the beginning, a risk we will not take
He already ducked Haye
and he will not fight Wlad

Its painfully obvious he gonna fight some fighter on the way down

He will not duck Pulev. Come back and apologise when he fights him.... And wins.

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 07 May 2013, 10:32
by the truth
warriorbox wrote:
Maxsplit wrote:David Haye though is the best British heavyweight by some distance and probably second only to Lennox Lewis of all time :TU:
Certain I'll get some stick for this but I think Bruno would have got Haye out of there very quickly, 1-2 rounds.


Hahaha yeah you will , Haye far to athletic and powerful , would land at willing Bruno and stop him

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 07 May 2013, 10:35
by the truth
Imagine Bruno going in with valuev, he would of shit himself and do the cross sign about 100 times before the first bell! Bruno was a big strong body builder type, look at his record , most his opponents were no great shakes..,

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 07 May 2013, 10:38
by warriorbox
the truth wrote:
warriorbox wrote:
Maxsplit wrote:David Haye though is the best British heavyweight by some distance and probably second only to Lennox Lewis of all time :TU:
Certain I'll get some stick for this but I think Bruno would have got Haye out of there very quickly, 1-2 rounds.


Hahaha yeah you will , Haye far to athletic and powerful , would land at willing Bruno and stop him
Lol. I don't know, the Bruno vs Tyson 1, or the first couple of rounds against Lewis would be a match for any heavyweight in todays age. Would Haye last 6 rounds against a near peak Mike Tyson - I have serious doubts.

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 08 May 2013, 03:31
by the truth
Did Bruno last 6 rounds against a " peak" Tyson ? When? Because when he boxed Tyson in 89 he was passed his " peak"

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 08 May 2013, 03:36
by warriorbox
the truth wrote:Did Bruno last 6 rounds against a " peak" Tyson ? When? Because when he boxed Tyson in 89 he was passed his " peak"
I said 'near peak' :OhYes:

Would Haye have lasted that first round against Tyson? Don't think so :bag:

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 08 May 2013, 04:12
by Syntax Error
the truth wrote:Did Bruno last 6 rounds against a " peak" Tyson ? When? Because when he boxed Tyson in 89 he was passed his " peak"
When since was Tyson past his peak in '89?

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 08 May 2013, 04:40
by lillywhite14
Bruno Haye is a pick em. Both carry enough to take out the other.

Haye has achieved more in his career though so should rank higher.

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 08 May 2013, 05:13
by warriorbox
lillywhite14 wrote:Bruno Haye is a pick em. Both carry enough to take out the other.

Haye has achieved more in his career though so should rank higher.
Not sure Haye has achieved more at heavyweight? I would say they are pretty even right now, I would fancy Bruno to make quick work of the Ruiz that turned up for the Haye fight or Monte Barrett that got chinned by Cliff flippin Couser and Chisora - Valuev maybe a different story as I don't think Bruno would have had the boxing smarts to deal with him although Valuev wasn't really a big puncher or a busy fighter, so who knows.

Really depends what Haye does from now to determine his place in historic British heavyweight rankings really.

Re: Best Heavyweight in the UK Today

Posted: 08 May 2013, 05:56
by mickey1975
As a Heavyweight, Bruno has achieved more. McCall is better than Valuev, Frank has several better wins over contenders than Haye and heroic losses to Tyson(1) and Lewis are much better than running like a bitch against Wlad.