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Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 09:49
by black panther
Ratchet Exits Nu wrote:
danconnollyeire wrote:I think when people becoming three time world champions, then they can critise what Froch does/says on a build up to a fight
Not if he is talking rubbish.

He is a 3 time world champ becuase he lost twice.

:D
Rubbish from Dan. So I can't criticise a film director/producers work until I make a few films? I can't criticise what a top-class chef says until I win a few Michelin stars?
:lol:

No-one is below praise and no-one is above criticism.

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 09:54
by reggaereggae
I can't believe Froch could truly be pissed off that Clev / Groves accepted payment and great experience against Kessler. I think it's a non story and doubt it's bothering Carl. I expect a rough 12 round fight, not sure of the winner

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 10:13
by danconnollyeire
Ratchet Exits Nu wrote:

Am I right or wrong? But I must add it is a mark of a Champion to come back from defeat. :D

Doesn't mean you are allowed to talk rubbush and get away with it.
Mayweather spurts crap 24/7

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 13:30
by dookus
danconnollyeire wrote:
Ratchet Exits Nu wrote:

Am I right or wrong? But I must add it is a mark of a Champion to come back from defeat. :D

Doesn't mean you are allowed to talk rubbush and get away with it.
Mayweather spurts crap 24/7
You have no right to say that until you become a 5-weight world champ

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 14:09
by desperados
dookus wrote:
danconnollyeire wrote:
Ratchet Exits Nu wrote:

Am I right or wrong? But I must add it is a mark of a Champion to come back from defeat. :D

Doesn't mean you are allowed to talk rubbush and get away with it.
Mayweather spurts crap 24/7
You have no right to say that until you become a 5-weight world champ

:lol:

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 14:35
by Final round
"He's a hypocrite, I owe Carl Froch nothing, Kessler was a bit surprised by me. His angles impressed me.." said Nathan Cleverley on allegedly

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 14:36
by Final round
Andre Ward, These boys are fighting for 2nd place and have shown no interest in rematching me

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 14:44
by Butterbean
Magee predicts a kessler victory...

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 14:47
by handsofstone
Whats the chances of this fight being a bore,i reckon very slim but if history of rematches is anything to go by????? i just hope that the beating they put on one another first time hasnt put them off engaging
i know im a cynical so and so :neutral:

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 14:47
by Ratchet Exits Nu
danconnollyeire wrote:
Ratchet Exits Nu wrote:

Am I right or wrong? But I must add it is a mark of a Champion to come back from defeat. :D

Doesn't mean you are allowed to talk rubbush and get away with it.
Mayweather spurts crap 24/7

But its factual crap!
:OhYes:

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 14:51
by Ratchet Exits Nu
desperados wrote: You have no right to say that until you become a 5-weight world champ

:lol:[/quote]

:yay:

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 14:51
by Ratchet Exits Nu
desperados wrote: You have no right to say that until you become a 5-weight world champ

:lol:[/quote]


:bow:

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 15:22
by ALI
Anyone know how Groves and Cleverly's sparring sessions with Kessler played out?

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 15:33
by Final round
ALI wrote:Anyone know how Groves and Cleverly's sparring sessions with Kessler played out?
Final round wrote:"He's a hypocrite, I owe Carl Froch nothing, Kessler was a bit surprised by me. His angles impressed me.." said Nathan Cleverley on allegedly

Apparently Groves and Cleverley were there at different times so he didn't see them spar. That was all Cleverley said on allegedly re Kessler and he wouldn't pick a winner either ( or maybe he didn't want to pick Froch after being slagged off) The Law said Kessler gave Cleverley a shiner.

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 15:51
by ScottDetonator
Butterbean wrote:Magee predicts a kessler victory...
Magee predicted he'd beat Kessler...

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 15:54
by palooka
ScottDetonator wrote:
Butterbean wrote:Magee predicts a kessler victory...
Magee predicted he'd beat Kessler...
Magee has boxed both and been hit hard by both, he thought he'd beat Kessler before he got hit in the body. Maybe Brian has more insight into the strengths and weaknesses than most of us? Maybe?

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 16:18
by ScottDetonator
palooka wrote:
ScottDetonator wrote:
Butterbean wrote:Magee predicts a kessler victory...
Magee predicted he'd beat Kessler...
Magee has boxed both and been hit hard by both, he thought he'd beat Kessler before he got hit in the body. Maybe Brian has more insight into the strengths and weaknesses than most of us? Maybe?
I wouldn't doubt that Brian has a good insight into both fighters and he may well be right, but he was wrong in predicting that he'd beat Kessler. He also said Kessler would stop Froch, something I highly doubt.

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 16:23
by Horse
ScottDetonator wrote:I wouldn't doubt that Brian has a good insight into both fighters and he may well be right, but he was wrong in predicting that he'd beat Kessler. He also said Kessler would stop Froch, something I highly doubt.
Who in the heck picks against themself? How can you hold that against him?

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 16:35
by ScottDetonator
I don't hold anything against him. I just don't agree with his prediction.

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 18:22
by Teddy's Toupee
Well we'll all find out on Saturday night. I think Kessler will win, by split decision on the judges' score cards, but clearly in the real world. His body punches will slow Froch down and he'll outwork him down the stretch. Froch thinks he's got dynamite in his fists since the Bute fight. He's rewritten history in his own head in forgetting how Ward handled him with relative ease, and that he's not a particularly heavy puncher at world level.

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 19:14
by horndawg80
Groves reckons there is a clear winner but won't say who

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 19:26
by dookus
Ratchet Exits Nu wrote:
desperados wrote: You have no right to say that until you become a 5-weight world champ

:lol:

:bow:[/quote]
Hey, that was my goddamn quote, not desperados! :lol:

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 20 May 2013, 20:40
by fasteddie
magee cant really comment on this fight as he fought froch years ago and kessler in his last fight so how could he pick a winner based on himself fighting both? put froch in with him now and he wont last 3 rounds.

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 21 May 2013, 04:39
by Asterix
Ratchet Exits Nu wrote:
danconnollyeire wrote:
Ratchet Exits Nu wrote:

Am I right or wrong? But I must add it is a mark of a Champion to come back from defeat. :D

Doesn't mean you are allowed to talk rubbush and get away with it.
Mayweather spurts crap 24/7

But its factual crap!
:OhYes:
I don't know what planet you're on, but Mayweather says plenty of things that aren't factual.

Re: Froch slams Groves and Cleverly for sparring with Kessler

Posted: 21 May 2013, 04:51
by MightyWarrior
horndawg80 wrote:Groves reckons there is a clear winner but won't say who
Well that's very nice of George to share that fascinating insight with us.