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Posted: **18 Aug 2013, 19:39**

Crease wrote:
HomicideHenry wrote:If Mr. Loughran would accept, we would like an immediate rematch.

armageto wrote:If you have decided to offer Loughran an immediate rematch, count us in sir.
So Charles vs Loughran is signed.

And the Undisputed Title will not be fought for this week.

As per the rules if Charles loses he can not have an immediate rematch.

Very disappointed in HH after weeks of bitching that he can't unify with Gibbons and become lineal champ (linear as he puts it.) when he gets the opportunity to make one true undisputed champ he ducks.

Best resolution IMO have Gibbons and Charles fight for all the belts with Spinks vs Loughran as the co main with the winner getting the next shot at the title. Everybody wins in this situation, we get possibly the only chance to have a full undisputed champ this season, Loughran and Spinks do not miss out as the winner of their fight gets a shot next week.

Posted: **18 Aug 2013, 19:41**

Langford would like to avenge his loss to Fitzsimmons how about it Bob?

Posted: **18 Aug 2013, 23:53**

Charles and Gibbons is the right fight at the right time.

And yet....the wrong manager.

Perhaps we should fight someone that Gibbons has fought to a draw.

Oh wait...there isn't anyone.

Posted: **19 Aug 2013, 04:36**

BoxBuzz wrote:Charles and Gibbons is the right fight at the right time.

And yet....the wrong manager.

Perhaps we should fight someone that Gibbons has fought to a draw.

Oh wait...there isn't anyone.

It's a real shame as there is a good chance both guys will lose sooner rather than later can only beat the simodds for so long.

Posted: **19 Aug 2013, 06:23**

p4p1 wrote:As per the rules if Charles loses he can not have an immediate rematch.

Mr P4P1, you have stated the rule correctly, but I think that you are slightly mistaken as to what's going on.

Ezzard Charles CAN offer Tommy Loughran an immediate rematch because they drew last week. That result is still considered a successful title defence, yet Loughran is still an elligible contender for World Titles this week because he did not lose.

I don't think that Mr Hank or Mr Geto were discussing giving Ezzard CHarles a rematch if he losses, now that would be against the rules.

Posted: **19 Aug 2013, 06:24**

BoxBuzz wrote:UNMATCHED FIGHTERS
BIGJUICYHOG - BOB FITZSIMMONS, FLOYD PATTERSON
BOXBUZZ - TOMMY GIBBONS, KID NORFOLK
CREASE - TOMMY BURNS
DETROITHXC - OLD STRIBLING, MICHAEL MOORER
DMA1987 - ROY JONES JR, STANLEY KETCHEL
FIST OF LEGEND - MAXIE ROSENBLOOM
FRILLA - JOSE TORRES
GLITTERMONKEY - ARCHIE MOORE, DARIUSZ MICHALCZEWSKI
JDC - PHILADELPHIA JACK O'BRIEN, HAROLD JOHNSON
KEVO - MICHAEL SPINKS, BILLY FOX
P4P1 - SAM LANGFORD, FREDDIE MILLS
SOCKDOLAGER - BOB FOSTER, YOUNG FIRPO
TECHNO89 - HARRY GREB

Posted: **19 Aug 2013, 06:58**

Crease wrote:
p4p1 wrote:As per the rules if Charles loses he can not have an immediate rematch.
Mr P4P1, you have stated the rule correctly, but I think that you are slightly mistaken as to what's going on.

Ezzard Charles CAN offer Tommy Loughran an immediate rematch because they drew last week. That result is still considered a successful title defence, yet Loughran is still an elligible contender for World Titles this week because he did not lose.

I don't think that Mr Hank or Mr Geto were discussing giving Ezzard CHarles a rematch if he losses, now that would be against the rules.

Re-read it and it would seem I did read it wrong the first time, still think that Charles should be fighting Gibbons though

Posted: **19 Aug 2013, 10:07**

Harry Greb Calls out TOMMY BURNS

Posted: **19 Aug 2013, 10:31**

Floyd Patterson will fight Tim Bell
Fitz will fight Julio Gonzalez

Posted: **19 Aug 2013, 10:48**

Indeed, Charles is running from Gibbons like a jackrabbit from a shotgun.

We want to give the man who gave us our first break a return match. FOL...will Bivens answer the call?

Posted: **19 Aug 2013, 11:20**

I've heard enough of this bullshit. I was under the impression that if I had a draw, then I couldn't go for unification. I was also under the impression if another champion had a split decision win, he couldn't do a unification bout (Mr. Gibbons won via split decision in his last outing). But since everyone is apparently giving me the impression that is not true---- yet those were similar reasons why I wasn't allowed to fight in a unification match weeks ago---- then I hope Mr. Loughran understands, as I want to fight Gibbons for the undisputed championship of the world, and will give him the first crack at my title once I win it off Mr. Gibbons. Jesus bless.

Posted: **19 Aug 2013, 11:23**

BoxBuzz wrote:Indeed, Charles is running from Gibbons like a jackrabbit from a shotgun.

We want to give the man who gave us our first break a return match. FOL...will Bivens answer the call?

Bivins has a score to settle with Saad Muhammad before he gets involved in anything else, Bivins thanks the champ for his generous offer but must respectfully decline the offer at this time. Although we look forward to a rematch in the near future if possible.

Posted: **19 Aug 2013, 11:32**

JOHNSON wants JOSE TORRES
O'BRIEN wants BILLY FOX

Posted: **19 Aug 2013, 11:54**

Mr Hank, allow me to clear things up for you so that we all know where we stand.

HomicideHenry wrote:I've heard enough of this bullshit. I was under the impression that if I had a draw, then I couldn't go for unification.

Your impression was incorrect.
Draws are considered successful title defences... WHY? Because you did not lose your titles.

HomicideHenry wrote:I was also under the impression if another champion had a split decision win, he couldn't do a unification bout (Mr. Gibbons won via split decision in his last outing).

That is also incorrect.
A win is win - regardless of the manner of it... A KO, or a TKO, a UD or a SD, a MD or a DQ - it all comes down to the same thing:
Winning by an inch or winning by a mile - it's still winning!

HomicideHenry wrote:But since everyone is apparently giving me the impression that is not true---- yet those were similar reasons why I wasn't allowed to fight in a unification match weeks ago

:??
The reason you weren't allowed an Undisputed Title unification fight weeks ago was because you had not defended the WBO title three times yet.

This week a Unification fight for the Undisputed Title can happen!!!!!

WHY?
Because Ezzard Charles has defended the WBC Title and WBO Titles both 3 times in a row.
And Tommy Gibbons has defended the WBA Title and IBF Titles both 3 times in a row.

So, that is exactly why.

HomicideHenry wrote:---- then I hope Mr. Loughran understands, as I want to fight Gibbons for the undisputed championship of the world, and will give him the first crack at my title once I win it off Mr. Gibbons. Jesus bless.

The only way that can happen is if Armageto agrees to step aside in order for this fight to be made... It's considered bad form around these parts for a fighter to withdraw from a signed fight.

Posted: **19 Aug 2013, 12:02**

Techno89 wrote:Harry Greb Calls out TOMMY BURNS

Denied!!!

Your treatment of a P4P legend like Harry Greb is shameful at best and morbid at worst.

We hereby invite you to awaken up and smell the hummus... Look around and see the other ring greats who are available - like Archie Moore, Michael Spinks and Sam Langford....

Guys, in other words, in the same calibre as Mr Greb... Give the fans what the BIG FIGHTS that they want to see.

Posted: **19 Aug 2013, 12:13**

JDC wrote:JOHNSON wants JOSE TORRES
O'BRIEN wants BILLY FOX

Torres is busy fighting for the IBo this week I think.

How about a stable war - Johnson v RJJ, O brien vs Ketchel?

Posted: **19 Aug 2013, 12:29**

Just a note...in order to be rated highly, you need to mix it up with a high rated fighter.

Slumming wins off the backs of Crumbles does not garner a lot of point.

A loss from a highly rated fighter does less damage than losing to Sister Susie.

Posted: **20 Aug 2013, 00:38**

Homeside Harry.....I can't believe you....seriously....your the guy that lights the bag of crap on the doorstep, knocks on the door, and runs like hell. Then when the guy inside the house opens the door, there's nothing but a stink on the porch. He looks around, calls out..."is anybody out there?....cuz if you got any guts I want you to get back her and clean this shit up and we can sort this out".....and your watching from down the street laughing.

Then you do it again the next day.

Gibbons will not have it.....He will fight John Henry Lewis. And if Lewis wins Lewis will be auctioned to the highest bidder.

My porch stinks.....

Posted: **20 Aug 2013, 05:31**

Spinx calls out Bob Foster

Conteh will take on Dennis Andries

Posted: **20 Aug 2013, 06:20**

Tommy Burns will test himself against Reggie Strickland.

Posted: **20 Aug 2013, 06:28**

BoxBuzz wrote:UNMATCHED FIGHTERS
BOXBUZZ - KID NORFOLK
DETROITHXC - OLD STRIBLING
DMA1987 - ROY JONES JR, STANLEY KETCHEL
GLITTERMONKEY - ARCHIE MOORE, DARIUSZ MICHALCZEWSKI
JDC - PHILADELPHIA JACK O'BRIEN, HAROLD JOHNSON
KEVO - MICHAEL SPINKS
P4P1 - SAM LANGFORD, FREDDIE MILLS
SOCKDOLAGER - BOB FOSTER, YOUNG FIRPO
TECHNO89 - HARRY GREB

Unanswered challenges:

DMA1987 wrote:How about a stable war - Johnson v RJJ, O brien vs Ketchel?

DetroitHxC wrote:Old Stribling challenges Dariusz Michalczewski.

kevo wrote:Spinx calls out Bob Foster

Posted: **20 Aug 2013, 07:16**

Kevo, How about Langford vs Spinks if the Gibbons fight doesn't come off?

Posted: **20 Aug 2013, 08:32**

p4p1 wrote:Kevo, How about Langford vs Spinks if the Gibbons fight doesn't come off?

F*ck it, go on then.

Posted: **20 Aug 2013, 09:04**

BoxBuzz wrote:
Gibbons will not have it.....He will fight John Henry Lewis.

John Henry Lewis isn't even ranked in the top 14?

Spinks, Langford, Moore and Johnson are all available for title shots this week........

Posted: **20 Aug 2013, 09:05**

p4p1 wrote:Kevo, How about Langford vs Spinks if the Gibbons fight doesn't come off?

If neither of you guys choose an opponent, Gibbons has to face one of you. John Henry Lewis isn't in the top 14....

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