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Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 08:04
by jameswilson
I think Garcia will get comprehensively beaten.

I think Mayweather will win wide losing 3 rounds at most.

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 08:42
by whiskey
I think people are underestimating Garcia in this.

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 08:45
by jessi
G0mez wrote:I think people are underestimating Garcia in this.
Well I'm not, and have chose him to win on points, but I must admit after reading all these great posts I'm a little surprised it seems to be 50/50 between them, I thought less people would of opted for Garcia !

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 08:46
by palooka
G0mez wrote:I think people are underestimating Garcia in this.
He is underestimated and is a very live underdog; if Lucas is the best hitter that Danny has faced then the same can be said for Garcia; there is no way that Mattheysse will be able to walk straight in and whack away - it is something when a unified undefeated world champion is 2/1 against - Garcia is not Mike Dallas.

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 10:35
by curtis wood
I fancy mayweather 116-112 and I fancy Garcia to win about the same margin as well, no sold on the argie yet, hes knocked a few over but big deal, Garcia will outbox him imo

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 11:04
by dapug
Canelo by split decision!

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 11:21
by lefty
G0mez wrote:I think people are underestimating Garcia in this.
I agree. Garcia gets underestimated because of his lack of speed and because he wings his right hand somewhat. You could say in some ways he's like your mate Froch who over his career has been underestimated at times and been deemed to be slow and so on.

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 11:22
by TJ77
I think Canelo will stop Floyd but I am prepared that I might eat those words.
Mattyhsee tol ko Garcia but again I am not sure.
Looking forward to finding out either way.
A great night for boxing and a real coup for allegedly.

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 11:33
by hurlock
This could be similar to the Castillo fight don't be suprised if mw gets screwed on points or if Canelo ain't boiled down to much he could drown out mayweather.
But like Eric guy said I don't care

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 13:26
by jessi
curtis wood wrote:I fancy mayweather 116-112 and I fancy Garcia to win about the same margin as well, no sold on the argie yet, hes knocked a few over but big deal, Garcia will outbox him imo
Someone like wilders ko % is probably a false reflection, but mattheysse's is for real I think, you can hear the thud on tv, a top boxer will normally take the power away. And I think the two boxers will prevail tonight, but I would love to see Canelo and Mattheysse land big to make it interesting !

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 13:36
by lefty
jessi wrote:
curtis wood wrote:I fancy mayweather 116-112 and I fancy Garcia to win about the same margin as well, no sold on the argie yet, hes knocked a few over but big deal, Garcia will outbox him imo
Someone like wilders ko % is probably a false reflection, but mattheysse's is for real I think, you can hear the thud on tv, a top boxer will normally take the power away. And I think the two boxers will prevail tonight, but I would love to see Canelo and Mattheysse land big to make it interesting !
Wilder has fought a lot of soft opposition but I think the power is legit. He flattens people.

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 13:55
by orbtastic
jessi wrote:
curtis wood wrote:I fancy mayweather 116-112 and I fancy Garcia to win about the same margin as well, no sold on the argie yet, hes knocked a few over but big deal, Garcia will outbox him imo
Someone like wilders ko % is probably a false reflection, but mattheysse's is for real I think, you can hear the thud on tv, a top boxer will normally take the power away. And I think the two boxers will prevail tonight, but I would love to see Canelo and Mattheysse land big to make it interesting !
Everyone he's faced have said just how hard he hits, including those that have sparred with him.

I think (and have done for a while) he is the biggest PFP hitter in the sport today.

He was sparring Bradley for speed, so I'd expect him to not come out windmilling, he's not daft.

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 14:23
by jessi
Just had a soft bet, Galahad, Garcia and Mayweather all to WIN ! £25 treble, returns me £137.50 (£122.50 profit) fingers crossed :yay:

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 14:40
by desperados
Canelo is going to take Floyd out. Early.

I've bet big on Matthysse & Canelo KO double; 10/1.

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 14:42
by palooka
desperados wrote:Canelo is going to take Floyd out. Early.

I've bet big on Matthysse & Canelo KO double; 10/1.
there's a reason it's a long shot

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 14:53
by desperados
palooka wrote:
desperados wrote:Canelo is going to take Floyd out. Early.

I've bet big on Matthysse & Canelo KO double; 10/1.
there's a reason it's a long shot

not that long - Matthysse is odds on and Garcia to KO Khan was longer, i won big. Peterson PTS Khan was way longer, i also won big.

You like money half as much as Floyd? Put it on.

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 14:59
by ArtOfWar
Mayweather does what Mayweather does. Canelo is to slow and basic to win.

I think Garcia will win as well. People seem to be creaming in their pants over Matthyse after the Peterson fight, but anyone who's seen more of him knows there are plenty of holes in his game. In fact he's quite basic and a bit crude. Garcia is very compact and well schooled and his timing is top notch. His timing makes up for his lack of speed.

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 15:00
by Andypittcov
jessi wrote:Just had a soft bet, Galahad, Garcia and Mayweather all to WIN ! £25 treble, returns me £137.50 (£122.50 profit) fingers crossed :yay:
112.50 profit

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 15:01
by desperados
ArtOfWar wrote:Mayweather does what Mayweather does. Canelo is to slow and basic to win.

I think Garcia will win as well. People seem to be creaming in their pants over Matthyse after the Peterson fight, but anyone who's seen more of him knows there are plenty of holes in his game. In fact he's quite basic and a bit crude. Garcia is very compact and well schooled and his timing is top notch. His timing makes up for his lack of speed.
Canelo ain't slow. And Floyd will be wearing the big boys gloves; it;s gonna be even on speed, both landing right crosses. Floyds is Powderpuff though, Canelo's makes guys the size of Trout do the Bambi.

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 15:04
by Datsue
Was so convinced when I clicked on this that it was about how having sex with my ex was a really bad idea.

How wrong I was etc etc etc.

On-topic, speaking purely as someone who was one round out on his DLH-Pacquiao prediction & picked the right winner, & as someone who's spent all day watching Alvarez videos, I hereby come out & say Mayweather's gonna box rings around him.

I can't even be arsed to do a Mega-Thread.

I still think Garcia's gonna surprise a lot of people, but Orbtastic & Counter-puncher's reasoned discourse has swayed me somewhat.

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 15:05
by palooka
desperados wrote:
palooka wrote:
desperados wrote:Canelo is going to take Floyd out. Early.

I've bet big on Matthysse & Canelo KO double; 10/1.
there's a reason it's a long shot

not that long - Matthysse is odds on and Garcia to KO Khan was longer, i won big. Peterson PTS Khan was way longer, i also won big.

You like money half as much as Floyd? Put it on.
I've put £10 on Mayweather and Garcia winning; my wife is very contrary and has £5 on Alvarez and Lucas winning.

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 15:06
by lefty
Surprising number of people picking Garcia, myself included. I just think the guy is underrated.

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 15:08
by palooka
columbo wrote:Surprising number of people picking Garcia, myself included. I just think the guy is underrated.
He is underated; he isn't as spectacular but he can box and punch, Lucas can punch.

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 15:10
by lefty
palooka wrote:
columbo wrote:Surprising number of people picking Garcia, myself included. I just think the guy is underrated.
He is underated; he isn't as spectacular but he can box and punch, Lucas can punch.
I think it's a pretty even fight to be honest. They're both very good fighters but Garcia is being totally written off by a lot of people which I dont.

Re: Can all the "told you so's" please stand up !

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 15:30
by desperados
columbo wrote:
palooka wrote:
columbo wrote:Surprising number of people picking Garcia, myself included. I just think the guy is underrated.
He is underated; he isn't as spectacular but he can box and punch, Lucas can punch.
I think it's a pretty even fight to be honest. They're both very good fighters but Garcia is being totally written off by a lot of people which I dont.

For a start he's weight drained, he looked like he was going to keel over at the weigh-in. Secondly, Zab Judah had him hurt a couple of times. Matthysse is different gravy, he's on a par with Golovkin and Kovalev right now as boxings biggest punchers. Garcia is goign to be shocked by the power, and suffer the same fate as Lamont.