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Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 09:50
by Tom Ford
Never buy a ticket/hotel for this boys fights. 1 week out - he should not be sparring.

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 09:52
by CiganoBoxer
orbtastic wrote:Head guard won't make much difference when someone follows through with an elbow
Full face headgear covers the eyebrows,Hayes cut is above the eyebrows ...what you on ?

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 09:52
by CiganoBoxer
Tom Ford wrote:Never buy a ticket/hotel for this boys fights. 1 week out - he should not be sparring.
BANG ON...THANK U .

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 09:54
by SNG
mrpedigree wrote:
JamesH wrote:
An injury is unprofessional? Christ on a bike. It is acceptable to be sparring just over a week before the fight, and whatever measures are in place, poo can just happen. I can't believe I'm explaining it, as I know you know this. I can see Booth preparing the sparring, 'right lads, people have bought limos and hotels so I only want to see footwork tonight, get dancing kids'. Come off it.

The delay isn't the fault of either man, but I tell you one thing, I know who I think will handle it better :OhYes:
Talk fcuking sense,people that are going are more than right to be a little peed off ,If your professional and prepare properly your camp should have at least avoid any type of heavy contact a week before a fight and if you are gonna be wally and spar wouldnt a fullface headgear be in order this close in ? , its at least unprofessional, but with Haye it seems we are used to this :roll:
It was more than a week before the fight.

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 09:55
by keithmoonhangover
Craigyid14 wrote:
Aden wrote:The moon landing was hoaxed on 20/7/1969 (2+0+7+1+9+6+9 = 34)

Diana was killed by MI6 on 31/8/1997 (3+1+8+1+9+9+7 = 38)

The Twin Towers were blown up by the CIA and Mossad on 11/9/2001 (1+1+9+2+0+0+1 = 14)

Yesterday (when Haye was 'injured') was 20/9/2013 (2+0+9+2+0+1+3 = 17).

34+38+14+17 = 103


Haye has had 28 fights
Haye has stopped 24 opponents
Fury has had 21 fights
Fury has stopped 15 opponents
Haye 'has' 6 stiches
The 'cut' happened almost 9 days before the fight

28 + 24 + 21 + 15 + 6 + 9 = 103

Something doesn't add up...
I think you need a hobby.
:lol: :bow:

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 09:55
by lefty
So what happens with everyone who's bought tickets and booked hotel's, etc? Can you guys get your money back?

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 09:57
by CiganoBoxer
SNG wrote:
mrpedigree wrote:
JamesH wrote:
An injury is unprofessional? Christ on a bike. It is acceptable to be sparring just over a week before the fight, and whatever measures are in place, poo can just happen. I can't believe I'm explaining it, as I know you know this. I can see Booth preparing the sparring, 'right lads, people have bought limos and hotels so I only want to see footwork tonight, get dancing kids'. Come off it.

The delay isn't the fault of either man, but I tell you one thing, I know who I think will handle it better :OhYes:
Talk fcuking sense,people that are going are more than right to be a little peed off ,If your professional and prepare properly your camp should have at least avoid any type of heavy contact a week before a fight and if you are gonna be wally and spar wouldnt a fullface headgear be in order this close in ? , its at least unprofessional, but with Haye it seems we are used to this :roll:
It was more than a week before the fight.
BY WHAT A DAY OR TWO ? ,so fcuk the full face head gear then :roll:

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 10:00
by SNG
mrpedigree wrote:BY WHAT A DAY OR TWO ? ,so fcuk the full face head gear then :roll:
It's still more than a week before. Last sparring session, shit happens.

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 10:00
by CiganoBoxer
columbo wrote:So what happens with everyone who's bought tickets and booked hotel's, etc? Can you guys get your money back?
Says on the Arena website to keep hold of our tickets and that there will be an announcement over the next few days as Haye is awaiting a doctors answer on how long a postponement will be etc :TU:

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 10:01
by JimStone
It's an unfortunate situation all round. I guarantee that no fan has invested more into this than David Haye has though. Don't forget that. Tyson Fury must feel like he's just lost a winning lottery ticket.

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 10:01
by orbtastic
mrpedigree wrote:
orbtastic wrote:Head guard won't make much difference when someone follows through with an elbow
Full face headgear covers the eyebrows,Hayes cut is above the eyebrows ...what you on ?
Why are you angry at everyone?

You will know that headguards move/slip, following through with a punch will move the guard and the elbow will make contact with the eyebrow. I fail to see what's so difficult to grasp about this?

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 10:01
by lefty
mrpedigree wrote:
columbo wrote:So what happens with everyone who's bought tickets and booked hotel's, etc? Can you guys get your money back?
Says on the Arena website to keep hold of our tickets and that there will be an announcement over the next few days as Haye is awaiting a doctors answer on how long a postponement will be etc :TU:
That's good! :TU:

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 10:02
by CiganoBoxer
SNG wrote:
mrpedigree wrote:BY WHAT A DAY OR TWO ? ,so fcuk the full face head gear then :roll:
It's still more than a week before. Last sparring session, poo happens.
So like i said unprofessional then.
Should of had full face headgear on at least mate ....wonder how long a postponement will be ?

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 10:03
by JimStone
orbtastic wrote:I fail to see what's so difficult to grasp about this?
It's the world we live in, hence my parody on the first page. People can't handle the truth.

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 10:04
by SNG
mrpedigree wrote:
SNG wrote:
mrpedigree wrote:BY WHAT A DAY OR TWO ? ,so fcuk the full face head gear then :roll:
It's still more than a week before. Last sparring session, poo happens.
So like i said unprofessional then.
Should of had full face headgear on at least mate ....wonder how long a postponement will be ?
Is it a fact that he didn't have it on, or are you guessing?

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 10:05
by lefty
That's a pretty nasty cut. I imagine the doctors will suggest a month at the earliest to let that heal and top of that, Haye wont be able to spar or anything so I imagine he'll lose some of his sharpness and he'll want more sparring time. Im guessing a two month postponement time. Rougly.

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 10:06
by orbtastic
It's likely to be 4-5 weeks at least, maybe longer. The MEN is booked at the end of Oct so that should make it interesting as we get into November, given Froch/Groves is on then, too.

If anyone wants an illustration about what happens when you rush into a fight after cut in sparring c.f. Chavez/DLH I.

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 10:07
by lefty
orbtastic wrote:It's likely to be 4-5 weeks at least, maybe longer. The MEN is booked at the end of Oct so that should make it interesting as we get into November, given Froch/Groves is on then, too.

If anyone wants an illustration about what happens when you rush into a fight after cut in sparring c.f. Chavez/DLH I.
Yeah, that's why I reckon it will be more like two months.

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 10:08
by Tom Ford
columbo wrote:So what happens with everyone who's bought tickets and booked hotel's, etc? Can you guys get your money back?
Not on hotels I wouldn't think.

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 10:09
by CiganoBoxer
orbtastic wrote:
mrpedigree wrote:
orbtastic wrote:Head guard won't make much difference when someone follows through with an elbow
Full face headgear covers the eyebrows,Hayes cut is above the eyebrows ...what you on ?
Why are you angry at everyone?

You will know that headguards move/slip, following through with a punch will move the guard and the elbow will make contact with the eyebrow. I fail to see what's so difficult to grasp about this?
I have never known a cut above the eye brow with full bar /face head gear yet ....go watch him in the training video Haye released http://vimeo.com/74734319 Hayes not even wearing a decent head gear let a long a full bar headguard .
You telling me by wearing that jank head gear in the video Haye is taking every precaution to be professional ?
Its careless i think :(

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 10:09
by JamesH
mrpedigree wrote:
JamesH wrote:
An injury is unprofessional? Christ on a bike. It is acceptable to be sparring just over a week before the fight, and whatever measures are in place, poo can just happen. I can't believe I'm explaining it, as I know you know this. I can see Booth preparing the sparring, 'right lads, people have bought limos and hotels so I only want to see footwork tonight, get dancing kids'. Come off it.

The delay isn't the fault of either man, but I tell you one thing, I know who I think will handle it better :OhYes:
Talk fcuking sense,people that are going are more than right to be a little peed off ,If your professional and prepare properly your camp should have at least avoid any type of heavy contact a week before a fight and if you are gonna be wally and spar wouldnt a fullface headgear be in order this close in ? , its at least unprofessional, but with Haye it seems we are used to this :roll:
What we are use to, in fact, is anyone domestic fighter who does well gets slated.

I understand people are peed off, I am in the same position myself. I'm consoled by the fact I'm going to the show later :yay:

I maintain that stopping sparring one week before a fight is fine, even though I'm personally affected by the withdrawal. It looks like it would have been caused up close by heads, perhaps as Haye worked on his head movement. If he wasn't wearing the headgear you refer to, it may be because it does add weight and Haye/Booth may not feel wearing it replicates fight night as much as it needs to (that would be a view I share). I'm sure they were cautious, but as I said, shit happens. It looks a mistake now, it wouldn't have had the injury not occured and the fight went ahead with Fury catching nothing but fresh air and himself (if your not sure what I mean, just watch the fight when it does go ahead).

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 10:13
by JimStone
Phones4U arena Saturdays

19th October appears free (too soon)
9th November is free (WWE on the 11th, not sure of set-up logistics)
28th December appears free
All Saturdays in January 14 appear free.

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 10:16
by lefty
Aden wrote:Phones4U arena Saturdays

19th October appears free (too soon)
9th November is free (WWE on the 11th, not sure of set-up logistics)
28th December appears free
All Saturdays in January 14 appear free.
28th december would seem most feasible to me. I dont know how that would go with the time of year that is though.

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 10:16
by followthecamel
What i would like to know is which of his sparring partners was it?

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 10:18
by CiganoBoxer
Someone just said 6 weeks on facebook ...dont know wheather thats right or not tho ? :-?