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A gloves a glove if you dont have the ability to land the glove it dont matter

Burns was completely dominated and almost stopped against Gonzalez and then dominated, brutalised and dropped against Beltran. He shouldn't be champion already is the bottom line! That in my book is a fragile champion.

Trojans44 wrote:Burns was completely dominated and almost stopped against Gonzalez and then dominated, brutalised and dropped against Beltran. He shouldn't be champion already is the bottom line! That in my book is a fragile champion.

Brutalised, yes he was so brutalised he was the one who finished the stronger even with such a horrible injury.
How any fighters do you think would fight on with a broken jaw? Very very few
I remember AAA getting interviewed after the Gonzalez fight saying he'd have fought on with 2 broken hands in real terms if he'd had show more bravery against Nicky Cook he may have won a world title fight(which of coarse he never) so world champ
Peter Harrison used to have to beg AAA to spar Scott Harrison and when they did AAA would make them a bore feast with negative boxing

Billy I appreciate you coming on here defending your fighter but you are looking more foolish by the day.

This topic has been hijacked by you in defence of your fighter. But we are supposed to be talking about the future of Scottish boxing: Burns is not the future of Scottish Boxing. He is on the decline, and once he loses (will not be long) then like all fighters who think they are better than what they are, they will punt their trainer, so you're on thin ice, especially when he is supposed to win at home and has no answer other than hugging for a whole fight and being totally outclassed by a Puerto Rican no one had heard of.

Can we stick to the topic please.

billy nelson wrote:

Trojans44 wrote:Burns was completely dominated and almost stopped against Gonzalez and then dominated, brutalised and dropped against Beltran. He shouldn't be champion already is the bottom line! That in my book is a fragile champion.

Brutalised, yes he was so brutalised he was the one who finished the stronger even with such a horrible injury.
How any fighters do you think would fight on with a broken jaw? Very very few
I remember AAA getting interviewed after the Gonzalez fight saying he'd have fought on with 2 broken hands in real terms if he'd had show more bravery against Nicky Cook he may have won a world title fight(which of coarse he never) so world champ
Peter Harrison used to have to beg AAA to spar Scott Harrison and when they did AAA would make them a bore feast with negative boxing

Look mate I'm not one the clowns who regularly tries to get a rise out you and value the fact you come on here. I also speak as someone who regularly pays to watch Ricky. In my opinion as a boxing fan Ricky is extremely fortunate to still have a belt for the second fight running. Yes he's shown great heart and bravery but bottom line he's been outclassed 2 fights in a row. That's why his coat seems on a shoogly peg.

I'd be delighted if he beat Beltran and won a unification fight. Make it happen!

Trojans44 wrote:

billy nelson wrote:

Trojans44 wrote:Burns was completely dominated and almost stopped against Gonzalez and then dominated, brutalised and dropped against Beltran. He shouldn't be champion already is the bottom line! That in my book is a fragile champion.

Brutalised, yes he was so brutalised he was the one who finished the stronger even with such a horrible injury.
How any fighters do you think would fight on with a broken jaw? Very very few
I remember AAA getting interviewed after the Gonzalez fight saying he'd have fought on with 2 broken hands in real terms if he'd had show more bravery against Nicky Cook he may have won a world title fight(which of coarse he never) so world champ
Peter Harrison used to have to beg AAA to spar Scott Harrison and when they did AAA would make them a bore feast with negative boxing

Look mate I'm not one the clowns who regularly tries to get a rise out you and value the fact you come on here. I also speak as someone who regularly pays to watch Ricky. In my opinion as a boxing fan Ricky is extremely fortunate to still have a belt for the second fight running. Yes he's shown great heart and bravery but bottom line he's been outclassed 2 fights in a row. That's why his coat seems on a shoogly peg.

I'd be delighted if he beat Beltran and won a unification fight. Make it happen!

Thanks that's the plan

Trojans44 wrote:

billy nelson wrote:

Trojans44 wrote:Burns was completely dominated and almost stopped against Gonzalez and then dominated, brutalised and dropped against Beltran. He shouldn't be champion already is the bottom line! That in my book is a fragile champion.

Brutalised, yes he was so brutalised he was the one who finished the stronger even with such a horrible injury.
How any fighters do you think would fight on with a broken jaw? Very very few
I remember AAA getting interviewed after the Gonzalez fight saying he'd have fought on with 2 broken hands in real terms if he'd had show more bravery against Nicky Cook he may have won a world title fight(which of coarse he never) so world champ
Peter Harrison used to have to beg AAA to spar Scott Harrison and when they did AAA would make them a bore feast with negative boxing

Look mate I'm not one the clowns who regularly tries to get a rise out you and value the fact you come on here. I also speak as someone who regularly pays to watch Ricky. In my opinion as a boxing fan Ricky is extremely fortunate to still have a belt for the second fight running. Yes he's shown great heart and bravery but bottom line he's been outclassed 2 fights in a row. That's why his coat seems on a shoogly peg.

I'd be delighted if he beat Beltran and won a unification fight. Make it happen!

I reckon I pay a little bit to watch Ricky as well (SKY sports subscription) and he did well to get through both bouts and Beltran won the fight; hope the rematch is very good and both are at their best.

ThereByTheGrace wrote:Billy I appreciate you coming on here defending your fighter but you are looking more foolish by the day.

This topic has been hijacked by you in defence of your fighter. But we are supposed to be talking about the future of Scottish boxing: Burns is not the future of Scottish Boxing. He is on the decline, and once he loses (will not be long) then like all fighters who think they are better than what they are, they will punt their trainer, so you're on thin ice, especially when he is supposed to win at home and has no answer other than hugging for a whole fight and being totally outclassed by a Puerto Rican no one had heard of.

Can we stick to the topic please.

I agree mate

Here are a couple of others i have remembered about since starting the thread

Darin Reid: Darin won the Middleweight Scottish Amateur title a couple of years back, he comes from Alloa and is a nice guy. He does the basics well and can hit hard with his backhand. I think with the right trainer and the proper dedication he could maybe surprise a few people.

Jordan McCrory: Jordan always had problems with the amateur judges and I think that his style will be much more suited to the pro game, he is strong and aggressive with quite fast hands. He is training with Peter harrison who's style of boxing should suit Jordan and will get good sparring from Scott to help him improve during his early pro career.

Is Danny Lee's a good am?

What about Sammy Hill? Anyone know much about him I know he lost a decision recently just wondering if he was decent.

Trojans44 wrote:Is Danny Lee's a good am?

Danny is IMO by far the best am trainer in Scotland and a perfect gentleman as well

Sorry word missing from that post! It was meant to read is Danny Lee's boy a good am?

Trojans44 wrote:Sorry word missing from that post! It was meant to read is Danny Lee's boy a good am?

Hes got sam ball whos top drawer

billy nelson wrote:

Trojans44 wrote:Is Danny Lee's a good am?

Danny is IMO by far the best am trainer in Scotland and a perfect gentleman as well

That's only because you don't many of them and the ones you do know are involved with pros

SMASHING wrote:

billy nelson wrote:

Trojans44 wrote:Is Danny Lee's a good am?

Danny is IMO by far the best am trainer in Scotland and a perfect gentleman as well

That's only because you don't many of them and the ones you do know are involved with pros

Who would u say was better smashing? Or who is up there with Danny in the ams at the moment ?
Danny has an excellent record over the last ten tears producing several , western , Scottish and British champions.
Would be I interested to see who else you rate?

SMASHING wrote:

billy nelson wrote:

Trojans44 wrote:Is Danny Lee's a good am?

Danny is IMO by far the best am trainer in Scotland and a perfect gentleman as well

That's only because you don't many of them and the ones you do know are involved with pros

Who would u say was better smashing? Or who is up there with Danny in the ams at the moment ?
Danny has an excellent record over the last ten tears producing several , western , Scottish and British champions.
Would be I interested to see who else you rate?

saw davie drummond up close in training this morning and hes looking in great shape for his bout on the 28th,he knows age isnt on his side,but hopefully tg can get him busy over the next wee while,and you never know,good things might start happening for him,the future of boxing in dundee is looking really good at the moment,with ronnie,davie and mike t and jamie wilson

Who/where is Drummond boxing?

hes fighting mon 28th october at the radison,hopefully he will find out who his opponent is by the end of the week

Cheers mate.

Who would u say was better smashing? Or who is up there with Danny in the ams at the moment ?
Danny has an excellent record over the last ten tears producing several , western , Scottish and British champions.
Would be I interested to see who else you rate?[/quote] Not at Senior Level yet the 2 he had in this years ABS finals got well schooled from Flynn and Law

Barry Clark Wullie Martin Peter Harrison Sam Mullen Jack Graham Jim Love Alec Mullen Ray Gibson John McCarron Tony Kerr Stevie Mcguire David McAllister Joe Martin Bert McShane Archie Durie all these guys have had British champs or involved with them like Danny plus there is loads of other coaches in the background

SMASHING wrote:Who would u say was better smashing? Or who is up there with Danny in the ams at the moment ?
Danny has an excellent record over the last ten tears producing several , western , Scottish and British champions.
Would be I interested to see who else you rate?

Not at Senior Level yet the 2 he had in this years ABS finals got well schooled from Flynn and Law

Barry Clark Wullie Martin Peter Harrison Sam Mullen Jack Graham Jim Love Alec Mullen Ray Gibson John McCarron Tony Kerr Stevie Mcguire David McAllister Joe Martin Bert McShane Archie Durie all these guys have had British champs or involved with them like Danny plus there is loads of other coaches in the background [/quote]

Defo mate all the guys u mentioned above are good coaches. But you've named quite a few! Who would be your top three?

SMASHING wrote:Who would u say was better smashing? Or who is up there with Danny in the ams at the moment ?
Danny has an excellent record over the last ten tears producing several , western , Scottish and British champions.
Would be I interested to see who else you rate?

Not at Senior Level yet the 2 he had in this years ABS finals got well schooled from Flynn and Law

Barry Clark Wullie Martin Peter Harrison Sam Mullen Jack Graham Jim Love Alec Mullen Ray Gibson John McCarron Tony Kerr Stevie Mcguire David McAllister Joe Martin Bert McShane Archie Durie all these guys have had British champs or involved with them like Danny plus there is loads of other coaches in the background [/quote]

David, any idea when your brothers and Traynor might be out again?

cutthecacklebullyup wrote:
Who would u say was better smashing? Or who is up there with Danny in the ams at the moment ?
Danny has an excellent record over the last ten tears producing several , western , Scottish and British champions.
Would be I interested to see who else you rate?

Terry McCormack ?