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Re: Froch-Groves... real tasty head to head

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 10:34
by lefty
BillyTKid wrote:Groves looks like he is off to a bit of work experience.
Yeah he does wear some dodgy ass suits!

Re: Froch-Groves... real tasty head to head

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 10:37
by palooka
Froch is happier talking over Groves and raising his voice; it's the Carl Froch show and he's not happy someone giving back chat; he wants respect from Groves as he's 11 years older; his dad was saying the other day how Carl talks down to him. Groves has highlighted a lot of contradictions and I'm genuinely surprised how brittle and strange Froch is; he seemed such an uncomplicated man before all this.

Re: Froch-Groves final press conference

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 10:37
by THEBUTCH
It's a massive event for Groves to deal with, but he's coping superbly. Froch hates the fact that Groves doesn't fear him or isn't in awe of him. All this bullshit about Groves being disrespectful, coming from Froch is a joke. Froch has run his mouth off for as long as I can remember. Groves is as a deserving challenger as Froch was when he got his shot.

Grove is an underdog in every sense, and to cap it all off, he's split for his trainer in the run up to the biggest fight of his life. Does he buckle and pull out ? Not a bit of it. Huge respect to Groves and good luck !

Re: Froch-Groves... real tasty head to head

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 10:37
by Lenny
orbtastic wrote:Froch just looks bored with it all.
He probably seems more interested then ever to be honest. He fight is a couple of days away, not much longer to wait and he has been through all this before. Groves looks as nervous as he is probably feeling right now.

Still, I maintain all this will have very little baring on the actual fight

Re: Froch-Groves final press conference

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 10:45
by banjo
Groves reminds me of this kid I grew up with, irritating me all the time, yapping away and I couldn't stand to be around him but the one time it finally came to blows I battered him.

That's what I see happening with Froch vs Groves especially if Groves stands in front of him.

Re: Froch-Groves... real tasty head to head

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 10:46
by rm1
The trousers jibe hit home for Froch.

Re: Froch-Groves final press conference

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 10:46
by palooka
[quote="THEBUTCH"]It's a massive event for Groves to deal with, but he's coping superbly. Froch hates the fact that Groves doesn't fear him or isn't in awe of him. All this bullshit about Groves being disrespectful, coming from Froch is a joke. Froch has run his mouth off for as long as I can remember. Groves is as a deserving challenger as Froch was when he got his shot.

Grove is an underdog in every sense, and to cap it all off, he's split for his trainer in the run up to the biggest fight of his life. Does he buckle and pull out ? Not a bit of it. Huge respect to Groves and good luck ![/quote]

Groves has got some bottle alright :bow: I can imagine as irritating that it is for Froch to be in the company of Groves the opposite is also true. That Groves has kept his head, it hasn't been one way sniping, shows a lot of maturity. I have noticed that Froch does like his people to be there and to be close whereas Groves is very much up there on his own.

Re: Froch-Groves... real tasty head to head

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 10:48
by palooka
Lenny wrote:"what's with the pink salmon trousers, you look like a pillock"

They just don't do it in the states like we do, best put down of the whole build up
Froch didn't ought to talk so much; he'd got tracksuit bottoms, a tee shirt and an overcoat on - if you're dressing sporty don't put a smart coat on; if you wear a smart coat don't put a tracksuit on.

Re: Froch-Groves final press conference

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 10:50
by lefty
palooka wrote:[quote="THEBUTCH"]It's a massive event for Groves to deal with, but he's coping superbly. Froch hates the fact that Groves doesn't fear him or isn't in awe of him. All this bullshit about Groves being disrespectful, coming from Froch is a joke. Froch has run his mouth off for as long as I can remember. Groves is as a deserving challenger as Froch was when he got his shot.

Grove is an underdog in every sense, and to cap it all off, he's split for his trainer in the run up to the biggest fight of his life. Does he buckle and pull out ? Not a bit of it. Huge respect to Groves and good luck !
Groves has got some bottle alright :bow: I can imagine as irritating that it is for Froch to be in the company of Groves the opposite is also true. That Groves has kept his head, it hasn't been one way sniping, shows a lot of maturity. I have noticed that Froch does like his people to be there and to be close whereas Groves is very much up there on his own.[/quote]
That's not actually true mate. He's got some amateur Heavyweight called Luke Wattkins with him. He was off to the side at that head to head.

Re: Froch-Groves... real tasty head to head

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 10:50
by Gazmac81
Froch - Wang :oops:
palooka wrote:
Lenny wrote:"what's with the pink salmon trousers, you look like a pillock"

They just don't do it in the states like we do, best put down of the whole build up
Froch didn't ought to talk so much; he'd got tracksuit bottoms, a tee shirt and an overcoat on - if you're dressing sporty don't put a smart coat on; if you wear a smart coat don't put a tracksuit on.

Re: Froch-Groves... real tasty head to head

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 10:51
by orbtastic
Lenny wrote:
orbtastic wrote:Froch just looks bored with it all.
He probably seems more interested then ever to be honest. He fight is a couple of days away, not much longer to wait and he has been through all this before. Groves looks as nervous as he is probably feeling right now.

Still, I maintain all this will have very little bearing on the actual fight
I watched it with the sound off as I'm in the office, but also to watch the body language. He looks bored, tired and irritated with it all. Groves was just trying the Booth mindf*ck stare and he [Froch] was clearly avoiding eye contact with him but I just think he's fed up with it all now and just wants to get to fight night.

Re: Froch-Groves final press conference

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 10:52
by Bard of Boxrec
I fail to believe there can be that many people in this thread who actually think these 'emotions' will play any part whatsoever come fight night. 'Oooh he looks rattled' 'Wow, this should make XX sit up!' 'Never seen him so ANGRY!'

:witzend: :witzend: :witzend:

Re: Froch-Groves... real tasty head to head

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 10:53
by lefty
orbtastic wrote:
Lenny wrote:
orbtastic wrote:Froch just looks bored with it all.
He probably seems more interested then ever to be honest. He fight is a couple of days away, not much longer to wait and he has been through all this before. Groves looks as nervous as he is probably feeling right now.

Still, I maintain all this will have very little bearing on the actual fight
I watched it with the sound off as I'm in the office, but also to watch the body language. He looks bored, tired and irritated with it all. Groves was just trying the Booth mindf*ck stare and he [Froch] was clearly avoiding eye contact with him but I just think he's fed up with it all now and just wants to get to fight night.
He didnt entirely avoid eye contact. At one point he got pretty aggressive and was getting up in Groves's face.

Re: Froch-Groves final press conference

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 10:54
by palooka
columbo wrote:
palooka wrote:[quote="THEBUTCH"]It's a massive event for Groves to deal with, but he's coping superbly. Froch hates the fact that Groves doesn't fear him or isn't in awe of him. All this bullshit about Groves being disrespectful, coming from Froch is a joke. Froch has run his mouth off for as long as I can remember. Groves is as a deserving challenger as Froch was when he got his shot.

Grove is an underdog in every sense, and to cap it all off, he's split for his trainer in the run up to the biggest fight of his life. Does he buckle and pull out ? Not a bit of it. Huge respect to Groves and good luck !
Groves has got some bottle alright :bow: I can imagine as irritating that it is for Froch to be in the company of Groves the opposite is also true. That Groves has kept his head, it hasn't been one way sniping, shows a lot of maturity. I have noticed that Froch does like his people to be there and to be close whereas Groves is very much up there on his own.
That's not actually true mate. He's got some amateur Heavyweight called Luke Wattkins with him. He was off to the side at that head to head.[/quote]

He was there to pull them apart if things got too heated; Froch had a big fellow stood just behind him too; I can't see Eddie being much cop in a shin kicking contest.

Re: Froch-Groves final press conference

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 10:57
by lefty
palooka wrote:
columbo wrote:
palooka wrote:[quote="THEBUTCH"]It's a massive event for Groves to deal with, but he's coping superbly. Froch hates the fact that Groves doesn't fear him or isn't in awe of him. All this bullshit about Groves being disrespectful, coming from Froch is a joke. Froch has run his mouth off for as long as I can remember. Groves is as a deserving challenger as Froch was when he got his shot.

Grove is an underdog in every sense, and to cap it all off, he's split for his trainer in the run up to the biggest fight of his life. Does he buckle and pull out ? Not a bit of it. Huge respect to Groves and good luck !
Groves has got some bottle alright :bow: I can imagine as irritating that it is for Froch to be in the company of Groves the opposite is also true. That Groves has kept his head, it hasn't been one way sniping, shows a lot of maturity. I have noticed that Froch does like his people to be there and to be close whereas Groves is very much up there on his own.
That's not actually true mate. He's got some amateur Heavyweight called Luke Wattkins with him. He was off to the side at that head to head.
He was there to pull them apart if things got too heated; Froch had a big fellow stood just behind him too; I can't see Eddie being much cop in a shin kicking contest.[/quote]
fornicate off! Eddie ard! He's a 15th degree black belt in origami!

Re: Froch-Groves final press conference

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 10:59
by palooka
He might squirt em with his hair spray but it's safer on the whole to have two big fellows there

Re: Froch-Groves final press conference

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 11:02
by chiggsy
WHATS WITH THE SALMON PINK TROUSERS!!!!

Re: Froch-Groves final press conference

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 11:06
by Andypittcov
chiggsy wrote:WHATS WITH THE SALMON PINK TROUSERS!!!!
He probably thinks there'll hypnotise froch in some way

Re: Froch-Groves... real tasty head to head

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 11:28
by The Insider
Carl looked well up for it and genuinely seems to want to smash Groves. Really looking forward to fight night now. Promoters need to take care my Arsehole! http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=173732

Re: Froch-Groves... real tasty head to head

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 11:44
by jamesmcdonnell
danconnollyeire wrote:I thought Froch didn't seem confident in the build up and Groves was becoming more and more cocky... after watching that video my opinion completely changed.

Groves looked frightened and Froch self-assured
Often the way, all the swagger and Braggadoccio evaporates as the fight draws near. Froch called him out there, and frankly, Groves looked like he had nothing to disagree with.

Of course, all will be revealed on the night, but Groves seemed very meek there, as dawn approaches, the condemned man realises the enormity of what he's facing and all the fears begin to surface.

Re: Froch-Groves... real tasty head to head

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 11:45
by jamesmcdonnell
Lenny wrote:"what's with the pink salmon trousers, you look like a pillock"

They just don't do it in the states like we do, best put down of the whole build up
Yeah, made me laugh out loud...also, just after that Carl says 'bloody hell, what's that about.'

Re: Froch-Groves... real tasty head to head

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 11:54
by palooka
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
danconnollyeire wrote:I thought Froch didn't seem confident in the build up and Groves was becoming more and more cocky... after watching that video my opinion completely changed.

Groves looked frightened and Froch self-assured
Often the way, all the swagger and Braggadoccio evaporates as the fight draws near. Froch called him out there, and frankly, Groves looked like he had nothing to disagree with.

Of course, all will be revealed on the night, but Groves seemed very meek there, as dawn approaches, the condemned man realises the enormity of what he's facing and all the fears begin to surface.
Froch spoke over the top of him and didn't really come up for air.

He's boxing a man he's chosen to face, he could have gone for one of the other champions, Froch is upset that Groves 'does not know his place' - he is a control freak and a bit of a bully. He didn't want to reply when Groves pulled him up about comments Froch had made v Kessler 2; Froch is not a mental giant.

Re: Froch-Groves... real tasty head to head

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 11:55
by Sklar
Groves easily delivered the wittiest line of the exchange, although most people probably won't have picked up on it.

Re: Froch-Groves... real tasty head to head

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 11:56
by palooka
Sklar wrote:Groves easily delivered the wittiest line of the exchange, although most people probably won't have picked up on it.
Remind me, sound wasn't very good. :TU:

Re: Froch-Groves... real tasty head to head

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 11:58
by jameswilson
palooka wrote:
Sklar wrote:Groves easily delivered the wittiest line of the exchange, although most people probably won't have picked up on it.
Remind me, sound wasn't very good. :TU:
Like the previous head to head they were muttering a lot to each other so it wouldn't surprise me if something quite witty was missed in there.