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Duce has his moments though where he is a top notch poster and never gets credit for it.

I posted a question about an obscure guy named "Donnie Meloncon" who once came to Indy and blasted out world-class Gary Guiden that nothing was known about. Within a day or two, Duce had dug up info on the guy's amateur career, detailed fights not listed on BoxRec and posted accompanying news clippings as proof and even gave a firsthand account of the guy's fighting style as he had seen him fight once. No one else on the ESB board could offer a peep of help on that thread.

He also entered a debate on the whole "Ayala schooled Cuevas in the gym". Duce pinned down the date Ayala Sr. claimed it happened and posted the proof, showed that the supposed sparring session was literally days before a Cuevas defense in L.A, and spanked Ayala Sr's claims that Cuevas "couldn't find or afford sparring partners" otherwise by posting articles that showed Cuevas used a regular stablemate as his prime sparring partner for years who traveled with him and fought on the undercards. He debunked the claim convincingly, as for it to have happened as Ayala Sr stated, Cuevas would've had to be trolling the plains of Texas desperately looking for free sparring with a high dollar defense in L.A (an obvious hotbed of boxing where sparring partners were in abundance) literally days away, which is a ridiculous premise all the way around.

While the Ali-threads probably are provocative in intent, he has been a strong contributor and deserves respect for it.

Let me stop you right there Dart.

He was banned from ESB for just that ie making stuff up and claiming to have witnessed it.

Giancarlo,

I hear ya, but I doubt he made up seeing an obscure main event in Phoenix involving two hardly knowns and backed it up with the newspaper clippings. He has had his moments. I think the main problem at ESB was a braindead with the handle "Lord Tywin" who never contributed one thing to any thread except to follow Duce around and troll him.

I may be wrong, but Senoire Duce seems to be a knowledgable boxing poster. He is clearly a wind-up artist on Ali. Everybody should know that by now and either read his Ali posts or not. I usually take them for what they are. We have other wind-up artists, like Tunney, who starts random anti-African- American threads on CS and nobody is calling for his ban because people know his biases and his general lack of subtlety. Same with some of the other oddball thread-starters. Frankly, I miss Ol' TML for the levity he brought to the place.

Problem for me is this...he's a good writer, and he drops off some interesting stuff. But unless I go to work after he spouts off, I have no idea if what he is saying has any basis in fact. I've found that some does and some does not.....and I guess it keeps me on my toes not to just take what he writes at face value.

I will admit...I will look up the stuff I disagree with.....and am a lot more gullible on the items I "feel" are probably true. lol

my point is simply this: when you start a thread
you want to talk about a certain subject. of course
things can divert to other things, that's the nature
of a board. but i find it annoying to start a thread
and see it going into a totally predictable direction,
just because one guy cannot stop to troll the very
same thing day in day out where ever he can.

it's ridiculous to ban someone for that. but it is
equally ridiculous to accept behavior that is usually
not allowed on playgrounds for all children above
two.

i like this board, i like this community and the idiots
that come along with it are just the inevitable
byproduct of a global web-forum. but maybe someone
here will find the brains and tell benito to hold back
ruining other people's toys.

man wrote:my point is simply this: when you start a thread
you want to talk about a certain subject. of course
things can divert to other things, that's the nature
of a board. but i find it annoying to start a thread
and see it going into a totally predictable direction,
just because one guy cannot stop to troll the very
same thing day in day out where ever he can.

it's ridiculous to ban someone for that. but it is
equally ridiculous to accept behavior that is usually
not allowed on playgrounds for all children above
two.

i like this board, i like this community and the idiots
that come along with it are just the inevitable
byproduct of a global web-forum. but maybe someone
here will find the brains and tell benito to hold back
ruining other people's toys.

Your half-assed style of writing is bothersome.

Learn to use the cap key when appropriate.

yancey wrote:

man wrote:my point is simply this: when you start a thread
you want to talk about a certain subject. of course
things can divert to other things, that's the nature
of a board. but i find it annoying to start a thread
and see it going into a totally predictable direction,
just because one guy cannot stop to troll the very
same thing day in day out where ever he can.

it's ridiculous to ban someone for that. but it is
equally ridiculous to accept behavior that is usually
not allowed on playgrounds for all children above
two.

i like this board, i like this community and the idiots
that come along with it are just the inevitable
byproduct of a global web-forum. but maybe someone
here will find the brains and tell benito to hold back
ruining other people's toys.

Your half-assed style of writing is bothersome.

Learn to use the cap key when appropriate.

Yancey...with due respect I ask ; Do you defend Il Duce because of your mutual hate of Ali?

Evrenb

evrenb wrote:

yancey wrote:

man wrote:my point is simply this: when you start a thread
you want to talk about a certain subject. of course
things can divert to other things, that's the nature
of a board. but i find it annoying to start a thread
and see it going into a totally predictable direction,
just because one guy cannot stop to troll the very
same thing day in day out where ever he can.

it's ridiculous to ban someone for that. but it is
equally ridiculous to accept behavior that is usually
not allowed on playgrounds for all children above
two.

i like this board, i like this community and the idiots
that come along with it are just the inevitable
byproduct of a global web-forum. but maybe someone
here will find the brains and tell benito to hold back
ruining other people's toys.

Your half-assed style of writing is bothersome.

Learn to use the cap key when appropriate.

Yancey...with due respect I ask ; Do you defend Il Duce because of your mutual hate of Ali?

Evrenb

Dear Idiot,

I'm not defending Duce.

I'm defending FREE SPEECH.

I don't hate Ali. I have said this repeatedly and I don't lie.

If there was someone on here that constantly posted anti-Frazier posts and threads, I would be fine with it.

I would certainly not go running to the moderators like a little girl and ask for their banishment.

It is about FREE SPEECH and LIBERTY.

If you don't like someone's posts, put them on ignore.

Yancey....would you like to comment on the rumor that Frazier's mom wore combat boots?

I'm not saying she did mind you. Just wondering if you can deal with this possibility.

Or should I ban myself for spreading this vicious rumor?

Would you feel differently if I told you that I KNOW she did?

I can not however reveal my sources.

Dear Idiot,

I'm not defending Duce.

I'm defending FREE SPEECH.

I don't hate Ali. I have said this repeatedly and I don't lie.

If there was someone on here that constantly posted anti-Frazier posts and threads, I would be fine with it.

I would certainly not go running to the moderators like a little girl and ask for their banishment.

It is about FREE SPEECH and LIBERTY.

If you don't like someone's posts, put them on ignore.[/quote]


I respectfully asked you a question.....no need to be that way. I am certainly not an idiot.

Evrenb

man wrote:my point is simply this: when you start a thread
you want to talk about a certain subject. of course
things can divert to other things, that's the nature
of a board. but i find it annoying to start a thread
and see it going into a totally predictable direction,
just because one guy cannot stop to troll the very
same thing day in day out where ever he can.

it's ridiculous to ban someone for that. but it is
equally ridiculous to accept behavior that is usually
not allowed on playgrounds for all children above
two.

i like this board, i like this community and the idiots
that come along with it are just the inevitable
byproduct of a global web-forum. but maybe someone
here will find the brains and tell benito to hold back
ruining other people's toys.

tell ya what....if YOU start the thread...and wish his remarks to be stricken from the record....I'll help if you will drop me a PM....now if I get deluged from everyone wanting me to clean up their thread because Il Duce can not be curbed....I'll have to reflect on that. but for now....I'll cut you and anyone else that deal. Just provide me a hyperlink.....and I'll help shovel the poo. IF it's in your yard.

evrenb wrote:Dear Idiot,

I'm not defending Duce.

I'm defending FREE SPEECH.

I don't hate Ali. I have said this repeatedly and I don't lie.

If there was someone on here that constantly posted anti-Frazier posts and threads, I would be fine with it.

I would certainly not go running to the moderators like a little girl and ask for their banishment.

It is about FREE SPEECH and LIBERTY.

If you don't like someone's posts, put them on ignore.

I respectfully asked you a question.....no need to be that way. I am certainly not an idiot.

Evrenb[/quote]





Let me see, you "respectfully" asked me a question, while falsely accusing me of hate.

You've got a unique understanding of "respectfully", pal.

BoxBuzz wrote:Yancey....would you like to comment on the rumor that Frazier's mom wore combat boots?

I'm not saying she did mind you. Just wondering if you can deal with this possibility.

Or should I ban myself for spreading this vicious rumor?

Would you feel differently if I told you that I KNOW she did?

I can not however reveal my sources.

Yes, ban yourself immediately or....

1. I will lie down on the floor and kick and scream like it is kindergarten all over again.

2. Run to the principal like a little girl and falsely accuse you of yanking my ponytail. (which I don't possess)

3. Not post until next Friday, like "man" threatened.

Take your choice.


;;-)

yancey wrote:I'm defending FREE SPEECH.

I would certainly not go running to the moderators like a little girl and ask for their banishment.

It is about FREE SPEECH and LIBERTY.

If you don't like someone's posts, put them on ignore.

ok. maybe you read what i repeatedly posted now.
that he can post whatever he wants in is own threads,
but that i find it totally annoying when he tries to turn
other threads towards his ali crusade.

and i did not ask for his banishment. but i guess it is
just my totally weird style of writing that keeps you
from understanding my posts.

regarding FREE SPEECH ... please. just: please.

yancey wrote:

evrenb wrote:Dear Idiot,

I'm not defending Duce.

I'm defending FREE SPEECH.

I don't hate Ali. I have said this repeatedly and I don't lie.

If there was someone on here that constantly posted anti-Frazier posts and threads, I would be fine with it.

I would certainly not go running to the moderators like a little girl and ask for their banishment.

It is about FREE SPEECH and LIBERTY.

If you don't like someone's posts, put them on ignore.

I respectfully asked you a question.....no need to be that way. I am certainly not an idiot.

Evrenb

Let me see, you "respectfully" asked me a question, while falsely accusing me of hate.

You've got a unique understanding of "respectfully", pal.[/quote]


Hate was probably the wrong word. Anyway I will leave you and Duce to your 'cottaging'

BoxBuzz wrote:

man wrote:my point is simply this: when you start a thread
you want to talk about a certain subject. of course
things can divert to other things, that's the nature
of a board. but i find it annoying to start a thread
and see it going into a totally predictable direction,
just because one guy cannot stop to troll the very
same thing day in day out where ever he can.

it's ridiculous to ban someone for that. but it is
equally ridiculous to accept behavior that is usually
not allowed on playgrounds for all children above
two.

i like this board, i like this community and the idiots
that come along with it are just the inevitable
byproduct of a global web-forum. but maybe someone
here will find the brains and tell benito to hold back
ruining other people's toys.

tell ya what....if YOU start the thread...and wish his remarks to be stricken from the record....I'll help if you will drop me a PM....now if I get deluged from everyone wanting me to clean up their thread because Il Duce can not be curbed....I'll have to reflect on that. but for now....I'll cut you and anyone else that deal. Just provide me a hyperlink.....and I'll help shovel the poo. IF it's in your yard.

That's the funniest part, his precious thread wasn't hijacked at all. The sensitivity in this thread makes it virtually impossible to call man a man.

man wrote:

yancey wrote:I'm defending FREE SPEECH.

I would certainly not go running to the moderators like a little girl and ask for their banishment.

It is about FREE SPEECH and LIBERTY.

If you don't like someone's posts, put them on ignore.

ok. maybe you read what i repeatedly posted now.
that he can post whatever he wants in is own threads,
but that i find it totally annoying when he tries to turn
other threads towards his ali crusade.

and i did not ask for his banishment. but i guess it is
just my totally weird style of writing that keeps you
from understanding my posts.

regarding FREE SPEECH ... please. just: please.

I don't think Il Duce should be banned, but he's made me wish this site had a block feature so I wouldn't have to see any of his posts.

knurak wrote:I don't think Il Duce should be banned, but he's made me wish this site had a block feature so I wouldn't have to see any of his posts.

It does, click on his profile and add him as a foe. You'll still see when he's quoted, but if you block ThatOne too you should have smooth sailing.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

knurak wrote:I don't think Il Duce should be banned, but he's made me wish this site had a block feature so I wouldn't have to see any of his posts.

It does, click on his profile and add him as a foe. You'll still see when he's quoted, but if you block ThatOne too you should have smooth sailing.

Thanks, I saw that but didn't realize what it did. I should've put it together.

It's unusual wording, I had to ask a couple years ago.

Il Duce wrote:Evren B,

Is a very hateful man. Not sure why, as I have never said anything bad about him.

He has always initiated an argument, filled with hate.

For what, a thread that questions the antics of a Professional Boxer.

Il Duce. . I'm not a hateful man but a hurtful man. In the sense I been hurt. Ten years ago today I lost my father to cancer in the most hearbreaking, painful way. It broke my heart and I have never recovered. Ali was a massive part of dads life and mine too. I associate the two together and when I read this constant negativity about Ali I do get very sensitive about it. Not your problem of course and I should be more of a man about it and ignore you. My fault. Anyway no hate to you and I will stop with the not so nice messages to you. God Bless

Sorry to hear that, I looked after my Dad for 7 years and he moved to Texas in July to stay with my sister and his grand kids. I'm lucky to have him, but I know he misses me and I think about it everyday.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Sorry to hear that, I looked after my Dad for 7 years and he moved to Texas in July to stay with my sister and his grand kids. I'm lucky to have him, but I know he misses me and I think about it everyday.

I feel silly being sensitive about it with Duce but I cannot help it. I am sorry about your dad. I forget how vast America is and how it must be difficult to pop over and see him. But go see him when you can !