Barker v Sturm predictions

[stujones]

I got Darren Barker so wrong!! He has to be No1 on my "Got It Wrong" list.

I remember years ago I stated Darren Barker does not have what it takes to win a world title or even get anywhere near one!!

Not only has Darren won a world title he managed to secure one of the more reputable belts too. He can not only call himself a world class fighter but after watching that programme on him last night a world class bloke too!! I couldnt believe what a nice, humble down to earth bloke he is and listening to him talk about his brother showed the depth of the bloke too!! I always knew his trainer Tony Simms is a top man but didnt think he would achieve what he has with Darren.

Now I have got that off my chest in the "Boxrec Confession Booth" ... tonights fight is a tough one, not only have Team Barker got to beat Felix Sturm, they have to beat the judges too ... as the phrase goes "you have to knock your opponent out in Germany to get a draw".

In this particular fight I think Fast Car Eddie has done a bloody good job in securing a "life changing" pay day but more importantly the absolutely vital "rematch" clause in the fight contract ... I state this because it wouldnt surprise me if we get a controversial result tonight. Sturm is a tough **** and regardless of the result the fight will be a great watch ... looking forward to it.

Fight Result ... split decision.

Lets see if Sturm honours the rematch clause.... if he doesn't and the title gets vacated - won't there need to be negations with the next in line contender (assuming its Geale or Solimon).... not gaurenteed it will be in London.

Secondly - what happens if Sturm wins a deserving decision. He doesn't honour the rematch close - does that mean Barker will be automatically next in line? Maybe the IBF might decide to move him outside of the mandatory state.

Rematch clauses are great, but sometimes not worth the paper they are signed on..... ask Daniel Geale. I believe he had a rematch clause, but now has to wait for Barker vs Sturm. He might never face Barker again.

I just cannot see Sturm fighting in London, once he fought away from home - and that was against the biggest PPV star in the history of the sport.

[MightyWarrior]

Haven't seen him fight lately, but Strum on points I reckon

[Spud]

Lets see if Sturm honours the rematch clause.... if he doesn't and the title gets vacated - won't there need to be negations with the next in line contender (assuming its Geale or Solimon).... not gaurenteed it will be in London.

Secondly - what happens if Sturm wins a deserving decision. He doesn't honour the rematch close - does that mean Barker will be automatically next in line? Maybe the IBF might decide to move him outside of the mandatory state.

Rematch clauses are great, but sometimes not worth the paper they are signed on..... ask Daniel Geale. I believe he had a rematch clause, but now has to wait for Barker vs Sturm. He might never face Barker again.

I just cannot see Sturm fighting in London, once he fought away from home - and that was against the biggest PPV star in the history of the sport.

Some valid points - With regards Geale rematch point - He may have been paid step aside money, that happens a lot more than people think.

[stujones]

Hi Spud,

Not sure of the ins and out - can't remember is Sturm a mandatory for the IBF.... not sure what happened in the business with Soliman. If Sturm is mandatory, not sure if the IBF would accept a step aside money (Geale) for a mandatory challenge (perhaps Sturm isn't mandatory I don't know).... also not sure of the legal status of a step aside deal for a fight that then has a rematch clause.

If Barker doesn't get the nod, I can see it becoming very messy even if Sturm is up to coming to London.

Geale and Solimon are both making noises and claims for fighting Barker (Geale) and being mandatory (Soliman).... and that is a huge fight in its own right in Australia.

Lets hope Barker does the business, the judges do the right thing and it isn't a mess.

[lefty]

I got Darren Barker so wrong!! He has to be No1 on my "Got It Wrong" list.

I remember years ago I stated Darren Barker does not have what it takes to win a world title or even get anywhere near one!!

Not only has Darren won a world title he managed to secure one of the more reputable belts too. He can not only call himself a world class fighter but after watching that programme on him last night a world class bloke too!! I couldnt believe what a nice, humble down to earth bloke he is and listening to him talk about his brother showed the depth of the bloke too!! I always knew his trainer Tony Simms is a top man but didnt think he would achieve what he has with Darren.

Now I have got that off my chest in the "Boxrec Confession Booth" ... tonights fight is a tough one, not only have Team Barker got to beat Felix Sturm, they have to beat the judges too ... as the phrase goes "you have to knock your opponent out in Germany to get a draw".

In this particular fight I think Fast Car Eddie has done a bloody good job in securing a "life changing" pay day but more importantly the absolutely vital "rematch" clause in the fight contract ... I state this because it wouldnt surprise me if we get a controversial result tonight. Sturm is a tough **** and regardless of the result the fight will be a great watch ... looking forward to it.

Fight Result ... split decision.

Lets see if Sturm honours the rematch clause.... if he doesn't and the title gets vacated - won't there need to be negations with the next in line contender (assuming its Geale or Solimon).... not gaurenteed it will be in London.

Secondly - what happens if Sturm wins a deserving decision. He doesn't honour the rematch close - does that mean Barker will be automatically next in line? Maybe the IBF might decide to move him outside of the mandatory state.

Rematch clauses are great, but sometimes not worth the paper they are signed on..... ask Daniel Geale. I believe he had a rematch clause, but now has to wait for Barker vs Sturm. He might never face Barker again.

I just cannot see Sturm fighting in London, once he fought away from home - and that was against the biggest PPV star in the history of the sport.

No, the only reason Geale isnt fighting Barker straight away is first off maybe he didnt want the fight so soon and more importantly Sturm was the mandatory. It had nothing to do with the rematch clause not being honoured. Barker's said he'll be fighting Geale again after this fight or the rematch if Sturm wins.

[lefty]

Got a strange feeling that Barker might get stopped with a body shot tonight.

[Fatsam]

Cmon barker !!

In for a treat with this one i think !!!

Oh and barker on pts !

[mrbishi]

Ye brits are in fine voice over there. Sounds like a home crowd.

[palooka]

[quote="columbo"]Got a strange feeling that Barker might get stopped with a body shot tonight.[/quote]

You have strange feelings every week, you just need to eat more fiber

[lefty]

[quote="columbo"]Got a strange feeling that Barker might get stopped with a body shot tonight.

You have strange feelings every week, you just need to eat more fiber [/quote]
It came true though!

[Final round]

I'm glad I don't gamble

[hurlock]

Can't write off a 3 time world champ!!

Regardless of injury sturm was on him!

I wonder if this injury was carried through training ??

[palooka]

Can't write off a 3 time world champ!!

Regardless of injury sturm was on him!

I wonder if this injury was carried through training ??

A million quid would keep my mouth shut, what about you?

[Final round]

Can't write off a 3 time world champ!!

Regardless of injury sturm was on him!

I wonder if this injury was carried through training ??

A million quid would keep my mouth shut, what about you?

I'm saying nothing. ;;-) ;;-) ;;-) 8)

[hurlock]

Can't write off a 3 time world champ!!

Regardless of injury sturm was on him!

I wonder if this injury was carried through training ??

A million quid would keep my mouth shut, what about you?

1 million %!!! But he should talk to his fans & supporters!!!
He looked terrible in sparring v froch & we all heard Simms reassure him on the session. I think this will be the last time we see barker

[hurlock]

Can't write off a 3 time world champ!!

Regardless of injury sturm was on him!

I wonder if this injury was carried through training ??

A million quid would keep my mouth shut, what about you?

1 million %!!! But he should talk to his fans & supporters!!!
He looked terrible in sparring v froch & we all heard Simms reassure him on the session. I think this will be the last time we see barker

[chad]

I can't see past Sturm for this one. I think Barker, and everyone around him seem way too confident. The fact that his payday for this fight keeps being mentioned also makes me wonder if it's Barker that's cashing in. He's coming up for 32, 10 years as a pro, and regardless of how it's portrayed I still think there are injury issues. I have a feeling Barker may be looking to wind things down, spend time with him family and call it a day whilst he can still walk.

Sturm on points for me, maybe even a late stoppage. I just think Sturm has more quality, experience and possibly a bit more hunger. If Sturm doesn't win tonight his career could be over.

Admittedly Sturm hasn't had a top level stoppage for a while however he shook both Macklin and Murray late on when he stepped on the gas and threw caution to the wind. Barker has been put down on both occasions when he's stepped up to world level. He showed great bravery to get up from the body shot from Geale.

I just think with the fans behind him, memories of recent close decisions and his career potentially on the line Sturm might not leave it so late to step on the gas this time.

Well got to admit that wasn't so much of a surprise, I just didn't expect Strum to step on the gas so soon. Clearly Barker has cashed out, and I cashed in thanks to putting a punt on Sturm stoppage on 365.com. I've always hated gloating basterds but now I can finally join the gang

[Hagler2002]

Picture of the betting slip or it doesn't count, that's the new rules around here

Some phucking mug said I was full of sh1t with my bet last weekend on Bellew so I posted my slip and the gobshite never replied lol

[crusader]

I'm not surprised that Sturm won legitimately and if he was the underdog and I was a betting man I would've put some money on him (though it's easy to say in hindsight!).

In my view he beat Murray, Geale, and Soliman, so I never saw him as a faded force. He also really seemed motivated for this fight and obviously there was a lot riding on it for him.

[Spud]

Wow didnt expect that one!!

Excellent fight plan by Sturm.