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Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:46
by lefty
BillyTKid wrote:taffytoon wrote:BillyTKid wrote:Hip went. He has had big problems with them.
Please!! He got battered with head shots.
Absolutely he was bang in trouble but the reason the towel came in when he was hitting back is he told his corner his hip had gone..
I think he was gonna get knocked out anyway. He was getting hurt against a guy who's not really a puncher.
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:46
by DMA1987
I don't really understand any of what just happened to be honest.
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:46
by lefty
reggaereggae wrote:columbo wrote:milpool wrote:Dislocated his hip apparently...
Yeah but his hip was fine before he went down from headshots.
I'm sure he hurt himself, but he was firing a good combination when his trainer stopped it
Im sure that even if his hip hadnt gone, he was getting knocked out anyway! He was getting hurt with every head shot Sturm was landing.
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:47
by keithmoonhangover
columbo wrote:
He fought the same way against Geale though mate!
Don't matter. He needed to fight different to win. He was eating left hooks. Tactics are planning what you're going to.
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:47
by lefty
DMA1987 wrote:I don't really understand any of what just happened to be honest.
Sturm kicked his ass basically.
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:47
by lefty
keithmoonhangover wrote:columbo wrote:
He fought the same way against Geale though mate!
Don't matter. He needed to fight different to win. He was eating left hooks. Tactics are planning what you're going to.
He was being hurt by a guy that's not a puncher aswell though. That doesnt bode well.
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:47
by palooka
I've just watched it; Sturm came out very strong and assertive, he was better than Barker and didn't take a backward step; I don't think the hip was the massive problem, it may have hurt a lot when he went down the 2nd time but wasn't an issue before he got dropped. Sturm was too strong and confident.
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:48
by keithmoonhangover
columbo wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:columbo wrote:
He fought the same way against Geale though mate!
Don't matter. He needed to fight different to win. He was eating left hooks. Tactics are planning what you're going to.
He was being hurt by a guy that's not a puncher aswell though. That doesnt bode well.
Getting caught clean and often is a recipe for disaster.
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:49
by DMA1987
columbo wrote:DMA1987 wrote:I don't really understand any of what just happened to be honest.
Sturm kicked his ass basically.
I saw the fight, just don't really understand. Wouldn't surprise me if Barker wasn't fit to fight.
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:49
by palooka
Don't matter. He needed to fight different to win. He was eating left hooks. Tactics are planning what you're going to.[/quote]
He was being hurt by a guy that's not a puncher aswell though. That doesnt bode well.[/quote]
Getting caught clean and often is a recipe for disaster.[/quote]
You could be on Come Dine With Me
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:50
by lefty
columbo wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:columbo wrote:
He fought the same way against Geale though mate!
Don't matter. He needed to fight different to win. He was eating left hooks. Tactics are planning what you're going to.
He was being hurt by a guy that's not a puncher aswell though. That doesnt bode well.
Getting caught clean and often is a recipe for disaster.[/quote]
Yeah but Macklin and Murray would never getting hurt with head shots to the same degree. Macklin got buzzed later on in the fight but generally he took Sturms shots well.
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:51
by lefty
DMA1987 wrote:columbo wrote:DMA1987 wrote:I don't really understand any of what just happened to be honest.
Sturm kicked his ass basically.
I saw the fight, just don't really understand. Wouldn't surprise me if Barker wasn't fit to fight.
Im not buying that to be honest. He was moving fine before the head shots rocked him. I think he hurt his hip on one of the knockdowns.
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:51
by reggaereggae
Ps what happened to the Eddie Hearn hair thread? Is Eddie an admin?
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:51
by Loftgroov
A fight with Billy Joe Saunders now?
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:51
by palooka
Good point; Barker did not seem solid.
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:53
by keithmoonhangover
columbo wrote:Yeah but Macklin and Murray would never getting hurt with head shots to the same degree. Macklin got buzzed later on in the fight but generally he took Sturms shots well.
People react to punches differently. It takes two people: One to throw a punch and one to catch it. Sometimes it's about angles. In fairness though, he ate a lot of shots.
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:53
by DMA1987
He was just waaay off. His timing was awful, his movement shocking. I'm not saying he started the fight with a dislocated hip, but something didn't seem right did it? He took bigger shots than that against Martinez too, who I'd say has a fair bit more power than Sturm.
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:54
by jameswilson
rapid2 wrote:Turned up for a final payday unfortunately.
If you're final payday was 1 million, you'd turn up too.
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:54
by Ketchel
Who came up with that game plan? Darren should have been boxing of the back foot for the first few rounds but that was the worst I've ever seen Darren box. Cried buckets for him when he won the title but it looks like he was just happy to get to the top of the mountain. No disgrace to lose to a guy like Sturm though.
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:55
by lefty
DMA1987 wrote:He was just waaay off. His timing was awful, his movement shocking. I'm not saying he started the fight with a dislocated hip, but something didn't seem right did it? He took bigger shots than that against Martinez too, who I'd say has a fair bit more power than Sturm.
Martinez fought a lot on the back foot though in that fight whereas Sturm was pretty aggressive.
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:55
by lefty
Ketchel wrote:Who came up with that game plan? Darren should have been boxing of the back foot for the first few rounds but that was the worst I've ever seen Darren box. Cried buckets for him when he won the title but it looks like he was just happy to get to the top of the mountain. No disgrace to lose to a guy like Sturm though.
He fought like that against Geale though mate. It worked against Geale. Tonight it didnt.
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:56
by keithmoonhangover
Sturm must have known before the fight that Barker was open for the left hook.
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:56
by ThereByTheGrace
Did you notice Sturm's veins? He was bulging!!
Good performance from him, stupid decision to go to Germany in your first defence.
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:56
by keithmoonhangover
columbo wrote:Ketchel wrote:Who came up with that game plan? Darren should have been boxing of the back foot for the first few rounds but that was the worst I've ever seen Darren box. Cried buckets for him when he won the title but it looks like he was just happy to get to the top of the mountain. No disgrace to lose to a guy like Sturm though.
He fought like that against Geale though mate. It worked against Geale. Tonight it didnt.
Great fighters adapt there style for different opponents.
Re: Barker-Sturm RBR (Anyone Cheering The German Will Be Killed)
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 18:57
by lefty
Ignoring the result for a minute. Sturm's missus is banging.