Re: Boxers Missing In Action...
Posted: 17 Feb 2014, 12:00
Callum johnson?
Last seen on the Gethin-Diaz undercard in Walsall last year, May/June. Had injury problems, hands I believe, throughout his career, then decided last year that he wanted to leave allegedly, so he sat out the rest of his contract and didn't fight, really smart move that one, as far as I know either his contract hasn't ended or if it has, no one's signed him. Another top amateur that expects everything to be put on a plate for him and doesn't realise that he can no longer command big purses or walk into a big fight without earning it, a career that seems to be going nowhere fast.Bennyblanco wrote:Callum johnson?
Cox was the fellow who's name I couldn't place. I think he had some quite bad hand trouble too, which nobody needs. I've heard of fighters having bad hands before they really get going, because they don't know how to wrap them and protect them properly when they start out on the heavy bags.palooka wrote:Jamie Cox has been out for some time - he was a good fighter - Michael Grant won the other night and I remember watching Grant v Cox in the ABAs.
Michael Maguire was out for a long bit but boxed the other week I think; he was a good boxer.
There's quite a lot of Irish lads that would fit right into this thread, I guess that without TV coverage the money isn't really there to keep them going, all 3 of the Hyland brothers are prime examples. I think Pajo's had a few injury problems and he did have a couple of fights scheduled around April/May time, but the opponent pulled out and they tried to stick him in with a light welter so he pulled out, think he was trying to get a fight sometime around March, but that was in December and it seemed like he was hoping Ormond would be topping the bill in a big show in Dublin, but he's on the Frampton undercard now, so he might be able to get on that undercard in an 8 rounder to start the comeback. Eddie seems to be training fighters now but I've no idea what Paul's doing with himself.Deno1986 wrote:Few Irish ones:
Andy Murray - fought Rees for the EBU title in 2011 and has only had one outing since in 2012. He used to thrive on Bernard Dunne's undercards when RTE used to show an interest in boxing but don't think he cares enough to further his career. Technically very sound with a rock solid chin. Could have done a lot more in that Rees fight but played it too safe for too long.
Pajo Hyland - hasn't fought since his interim WBA fight against Javi Fortuna in 2012. Could have really kicked on as he won a lot of fans that night with a sterling effort.
Paulie Hyland - last fight was in Jan 2012. Was a handy boxer but think he lost a lot of interest after Willie Casey demolished him in 4 rounds.
Nevin's making his debut in Boston on St Patrick's Day on a Golden Boy show that's live on Fox in the US, no idea what's happening with Sutcliffe though, hasn't fought since November and has nothing lined up, any idea why he wasn't on the Gary Hyde show Saturday night? Seems like it would have been perfect to keep him progressing.Deno1986 wrote:Willie Casey - Rigondeaux was the last card on Irish TV. Seems as it's our most succesful sport, it's ridiculous that the national broadcaster doesn't show any faith in it. John Joe Nevin and/or Phil Sutcliffe Jr. could be the boxers that might rekindle their interest.
expe wrote:There's quite a lot of Irish lads that would fit right into this thread, I guess that without TV coverage the money isn't really there to keep them going, all 3 of the Hyland brothers are prime examples. I think Pajo's had a few injury problems and he did have a couple of fights scheduled around April/May time, but the opponent pulled out and they tried to stick him in with a light welter so he pulled out, think he was trying to get a fight sometime around March, but that was in December and it seemed like he was hoping Ormond would be topping the bill in a big show in Dublin, but he's on the Frampton undercard now, so he might be able to get on that undercard in an 8 rounder to start the comeback. Eddie seems to be training fighters now but I've no idea what Paul's doing with himself.Deno1986 wrote:Few Irish ones:
Andy Murray - fought Rees for the EBU title in 2011 and has only had one outing since in 2012. He used to thrive on Bernard Dunne's undercards when RTE used to show an interest in boxing but don't think he cares enough to further his career. Technically very sound with a rock solid chin. Could have done a lot more in that Rees fight but played it too safe for too long.
Pajo Hyland - hasn't fought since his interim WBA fight against Javi Fortuna in 2012. Could have really kicked on as he won a lot of fans that night with a sterling effort.
Paulie Hyland - last fight was in Jan 2012. Was a handy boxer but think he lost a lot of interest after Willie Casey demolished him in 4 rounds.
It seems to be that without big shows in Dublin, Irish boxing goes quiet for a few years until a new star comes along, which is a shame because as Bernard Dunne proved, the support is definitely there. If they get Ormond on a show in Dublin it might encourage everyone else to pick things up, but really they need the top amateurs to go pro rather than sit around and stay amateur. Kenny Egan never turned pro, Paddy Barnes hasn't, Michael Conlan's still an amateur and without them turning over, everything will stagnate. McGuigan was followed by McCullough and Collins, a few years passed, then Bernard Dunne came along, but since he retired there hasn't been a single TV show in Dublin as far as I know.
Egan did have one pro fight quite recently (not picking you up mate, just mentioning it) but I don't think he's going any further with it? Nevin turning pro in the US is understandable but a big blow to domestic Irish boxing. He could have given it a huge lift fighting at home but that's hardly his problem.expe wrote:There's quite a lot of Irish lads that would fit right into this thread, I guess that without TV coverage the money isn't really there to keep them going, all 3 of the Hyland brothers are prime examples. I think Pajo's had a few injury problems and he did have a couple of fights scheduled around April/May time, but the opponent pulled out and they tried to stick him in with a light welter so he pulled out, think he was trying to get a fight sometime around March, but that was in December and it seemed like he was hoping Ormond would be topping the bill in a big show in Dublin, but he's on the Frampton undercard now, so he might be able to get on that undercard in an 8 rounder to start the comeback. Eddie seems to be training fighters now but I've no idea what Paul's doing with himself.Deno1986 wrote:Few Irish ones:
Andy Murray - fought Rees for the EBU title in 2011 and has only had one outing since in 2012. He used to thrive on Bernard Dunne's undercards when RTE used to show an interest in boxing but don't think he cares enough to further his career. Technically very sound with a rock solid chin. Could have done a lot more in that Rees fight but played it too safe for too long.
Pajo Hyland - hasn't fought since his interim WBA fight against Javi Fortuna in 2012. Could have really kicked on as he won a lot of fans that night with a sterling effort.
Paulie Hyland - last fight was in Jan 2012. Was a handy boxer but think he lost a lot of interest after Willie Casey demolished him in 4 rounds.
It seems to be that without big shows in Dublin, Irish boxing goes quiet for a few years until a new star comes along, which is a shame because as Bernard Dunne proved, the support is definitely there. If they get Ormond on a show in Dublin it might encourage everyone else to pick things up, but really they need the top amateurs to go pro rather than sit around and stay amateur. Kenny Egan never turned pro, Paddy Barnes hasn't, Michael Conlan's still an amateur and without them turning over, everything will stagnate. McGuigan was followed by McCullough and Collins, a few years passed, then Bernard Dunne came along, but since he retired there hasn't been a single TV show in Dublin as far as I know.