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Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 23 Feb 2014, 19:12
by Ronnie Clark
Again a thread ruined by Billy Nelson starting his talk! I wish my brothers would just ignore him! I understand they are just trying to defend me but hey! I have no idea what I have done for you to talk me down! I asked a simple question! I never disrespected Michael Roberts once! I still really like Ricky Burns, John Simpson and David Brophy! I had Alex Morrison on my page saying I refused a fight with John Simpson which is complete lies!!! I offered them on the 12th April a fight in a Paisley but again they ain't replied! Why all the lies!?! Why try and make me out to be a fool or scared?! I really don't care what people think, either love me or hate me, just don't tell lies!!!
I offered the fights and again no reply! Will they try giving me a days notice ;)
People pay good money to watch fights and the only fights that will be competitive is
The Burns card on 1st March ?!
Paul Appleby vs Scott Cardle
Ricky Burns vs Terrence Crawford
I believe Jamie Ambler is on??? 3 week late replacement lol
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 23 Feb 2014, 19:20
by lefty
Like a bunch of women you lot

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 23 Feb 2014, 20:04
by billy nelson
Ronnie Clark wrote:Again a thread ruined by Billy Nelson starting his talk! I wish my brothers would just ignore him! I understand they are just trying to defend me but hey! I have no idea what I have done for you to talk me down! I asked a simple question! I never disrespected Michael Roberts once! I still really like Ricky Burns, John Simpson and David Brophy! I had Alex Morrison on my page saying I refused a fight with John Simpson which is complete lies!!! I offered them on the 12th April a fight in a Paisley but again they ain't replied! Why all the lies!?! Why try and make me out to be a fool or scared?! I really don't care what people think, either love me or hate me, just don't tell lies!!!
I offered the fights and again no reply! Will they try giving me a days notice ;)
People pay good money to watch fights and the only fights that will be competitive is
The Burns card on 1st March ?!
Paul Appleby vs Scott Cardle
Ricky Burns vs Terrence Crawford
I believe Jamie Ambler is on??? 3 week late replacement lol
Ronnie you were offered the John Simpson fight not once but twice and twice you said NO! Tony Lindie your ex manager told me that himself, as well has numerous other fights you have refused, so im afraid you've been bullshitting everyone.
Ronnie The Shark has turned into Ronnie The Tadpole.
Jamie Ambler has been Brophy's opponent for 4 weeks and we tried to get it for the Celtic Title, so its not really a late replacement is it.
Its not a matter of people loving or hating you, people want to see if you can back up your chat with big performances ,well do date you haven't!
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 23 Feb 2014, 20:05
by billy nelson
Ronnie Clark wrote:Again a thread ruined by Billy Nelson starting his talk! I wish my brothers would just ignore him! I understand they are just trying to defend me but hey! I have no idea what I have done for you to talk me down! I asked a simple question! I never disrespected Michael Roberts once! I still really like Ricky Burns, John Simpson and David Brophy! I had Alex Morrison on my page saying I refused a fight with John Simpson which is complete lies!!! I offered them on the 12th April a fight in a Paisley but again they ain't replied! Why all the lies!?! Why try and make me out to be a fool or scared?! I really don't care what people think, either love me or hate me, just don't tell lies!!!
I offered the fights and again no reply! Will they try giving me a days notice ;)
People pay good money to watch fights and the only fights that will be competitive is
The Burns card on 1st March ?!
Paul Appleby vs Scott Cardle
Ricky Burns vs Terrence Crawford
I believe Jamie Ambler is on??? 3 week late replacement lol
Ronnie you were offered the John Simpson fight not once but twice and twice you said NO! Tony Lindie your ex manager told me that himself, as well has numerous other fights you have refused, so im afraid you've been bullshitting everyone.
Ronnie The Shark has turned into Ronnie The Tadpole.
Jamie Ambler has been Brophy's opponent for 4 weeks and we tried to get it for the Celtic Title, so its not really a late replacement is it.
Its not a matter of people loving or hating you, people want to see if you can back up your chat with big performances ,well do date you haven't!
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 23 Feb 2014, 20:09
by JamieM
Someone with 53 losses for a title? And Ronnie needs to step up opposition, Pot and kettle
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 23 Feb 2014, 20:11
by billy nelson
JamieM wrote:Someone with 53 losses for a title? And Ronnie needs to step up opposition, Pot and kettle
He was the only opponent available but the board correctly never sanctioned the fight for there title
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 23 Feb 2014, 20:16
by billy nelson
JamieM wrote:Someone with 53 losses for a title? And Ronnie needs to step up opposition, Pot and kettle
Excuse me between 2 opponents Ronnie had they've lost 144 fights ffs, in Ronnies last fight he fout a guy with a record of 4-5
At least Jamie Ambler has been in with top names in his division and even took the current british champ the distance in his last fight, bit of a difference Jamie boy
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 23 Feb 2014, 20:24
by JamieM
Brophy has never fought anyone with a positive record and you slate Ronnie.. Hypocrite... and you know it as you went and had a look and calculated records before I even replied. Ronnie has fought 4 people with a positive record, one with a 4 and 5 record and Doug Curran. We dont justify Ronnie's poor fights. He had limited amateur career and still has took more risky fights.
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 23 Feb 2014, 21:34
by rio
billy nelson wrote:JamieM wrote:Someone with 53 losses for a title? And Ronnie needs to step up opposition, Pot and kettle
He was the only opponent available but the board correctly never sanctioned the fight for there title
Why not just give Ronnie the fight?? This is what is killing boxing. As far as the ambler fight goes that is a joke, do you agree Billy? Make the fight, winner gets a huge push in there career the loser goes back to the drawing board. Ronnie wants it, I am sure Roberts wants it, its the clowns behind the scenes who don't. If you had faith in your man Billy you would make it happen.
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 24 Feb 2014, 00:11
by Ronnie Clark
When was I offered the fight with John Simpson?! Your a complete liar Billy... Let's clear up facts! I was offered Simpson on 1 or 2 weeks notice?! I said yeah it was around January last year?!? I said on a condition win lose or draw he would give me a rematch in the March!!! Morrison refused that as Simpson said he wasn't ready, and Billy John wasn't with you at that time so whoever feeding u the lies maybe you gotta get a more reliable source ;)
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 24 Feb 2014, 03:00
by billy nelson
Ronnie Clark wrote:When was I offered the fight with John Simpson?! Your a complete liar Billy... Let's clear up facts! I was offered Simpson on 1 or 2 weeks notice?! I said yeah it was around January last year?!? I said on a condition win lose or draw he would give me a rematch in the March!!! Morrison refused that as Simpson said he wasn't ready, and Billy John wasn't with you at that time so whoever feeding u the lies maybe you gotta get a more reliable source ;)
you again have totally contradicted yourself Tadpole,WHEN WAS I OFFERED THE FIGHT AND YOU ANSWERED IT YOURSELF,fornicating CLASS."Source"HOW MORE RELIABLE CAN YOU GET THAN YOU EX MANAGER, Ronnie stop bullshitting people on here your a good fighter but nowhere near as good as you think you are.
Ive never said john was with me when you were offered the fight TWICe, Simpson knows you were offered it but even now doesnt see any point in fighting you simply coz your not at his level and beating you wouldnt take his career forward.
Ive read you think you will win a world title,come on Ronnie look what happened when you sparred with the big gloves on against a world class fighter, you were hurt with head and body shot several times and you really need to get out the habit of repeateadly saying good shot!when you get hit flush.
You said NO to fighting Simpson end of, you are in no position at all to demand rematches i find that laughable.
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 24 Feb 2014, 03:03
by billy nelson
JamieM wrote:Brophy has never fought anyone with a positive record and you slate Ronnie.. Hypocrite... and you know it as you went and had a look and calculated records before I even replied. Ronnie has fought 4 people with a positive record, one with a 4 and 5 record and Doug Curran. We dont justify Ronnie's poor fights. He had limited amateur career and still has took more risky fights.
David doesnt make himself out the next great hope, brophy will acheive more in boxing coz hes a grafter,super fit and improving considerable
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 24 Feb 2014, 04:15
by daviddee
Billy let's make this clear..
1) Tony used to offer Ronnie fights on 1 weeks notice sometimes less.. Yes He refused Simpson initially but Tony phoned me and I spoke to Ronald and he decided to say yes!! Same day this was.. The offer was win/lose or draw there would be a rematch in March in Dundee. Fact is Morrison had offered the fight that Simpson didn't want so Simpson refused it fact!! Simpson also tweeted me to say Ronnie is a very good fighter and he doesn't want that fight the day after.,
2) Ronnie would get phone calls about opponents with no research and Tony didn't know the weight.. Every time a fight is offered you have to consider 1) your fighters condition 2) How much notice and 3) Anything in personal life due in that timescale. For some reasons fights were refused but just down big weight differences or unable to sort babysitters on short notice. Ronnie is a family man first and foremost.
3) When I heard a couple of fights were refused through Tony I asked him to tell me first and that I would speak Ronnie!! Tony and Ronnie couldn't communicate. Ronnie then refused no fights. Ronnie is the type of person you need to be honest with no tell lies and this is the reason he has had problems with certain managers..
From the knowledge I know Ronnie refused 3 fights. Well that's what Tony told me.. One was too close to his kid being born and the other 2 were down to weight issues.. One being Scott Cardle a week after he fought Ryan Walsh which I'm sure people would agree was too short notice at a higher weight. There was also tentative talks with Tommy Coyle and his team about a weight in the middle but we had a clash with one of Ronnie's shows.. This is the facts Billy. I was heavy involved in all this and as I have said yes at times Ronnie was silly when asked about fights and refusing but it was more a communication break down between Tony and Ronnie.. John has a lot of experience and I'm a huge fan but Ronnie will stop him.
Billy see all these lies you give about Ronnie sparring Ricky?? Why don't we arrange to sit in a room with everyone there?? You can then say that Lex is a liar?? Seemingly Tony is a liar if we go by his post on here!! He's not answered my Facebook message find out why he has changed his story!! Ronnie's car had broke down on the Thursday you were meant to be in Dundee on the Friday and didn't come through lots of Ricky's fans had shown up to see Ricky spar you cancelled in the morning.. Stop telling half stories Billy
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 24 Feb 2014, 05:16
by Ronnie Clark
Billy, you think your some kinda gangster cause u sniff powder! You can't even be honest to yourself never mind anyone else! Your a compulsive liar going nowhere in life! You concentrate on yourself and your team! I will concentrate on me and my team! I don't claim to be amazing at boxing Billy I have never once in my life said I am amazing!? I do believe the opportunities I get though I will take with both hands and try my hardest! You keep talking about me and Ricky and him hurting me :s Lets face the truth! I wasn't the one on the canvas was I??? I was also the one that never pulled out sparring!!!
#TruthHurts
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 24 Feb 2014, 05:20
by daviddee
billy nelson wrote:Ronnie Clark wrote:When was I offered the fight with John Simpson?! Your a complete liar Billy... Let's clear up facts! I was offered Simpson on 1 or 2 weeks notice?! I said yeah it was around January last year?!? I said on a condition win lose or draw he would give me a rematch in the March!!! Morrison refused that as Simpson said he wasn't ready, and Billy John wasn't with you at that time so whoever feeding u the lies maybe you gotta get a more reliable source ;)
you again have totally contradicted yourself Tadpole,WHEN WAS I OFFERED THE FIGHT AND YOU ANSWERED IT YOURSELF,effing CLASS."Source"HOW MORE RELIABLE CAN YOU GET THAN YOU EX MANAGER, Ronnie stop bullshitting people on here your a good fighter but nowhere near as good as you think you are.
Ive never said john was with me when you were offered the fight TWICe, Simpson knows you were offered it but even now doesnt see any point in fighting you simply coz your not at his level and beating you wouldnt take his career forward.
Ive read you think you will win a world title,come on Ronnie look what happened when you sparred with the big gloves on against a world class fighter, you were hurt with head and body shot several times and you really need to get out the habit of repeateadly saying good shot!when you get hit flush.
You said NO to fighting Simpson end of, you are in no position at all to demand rematches i find that laughable.
Let's work this out he had a bad habit of saying good shot. I have seen it so many times and I go mental at him and it's silly but to say he's hurt is crazy. He's smiling when he says it.. Ronnie is like no other fighter in the fact he likes to get hit. I have been in your gym lots of times and never once seen him hurt or rocked.. I can't say that for some of your fighters.. Your on the defensive about Ronnie's sparring with Ricky for some reason?? Would you like to share that with the Boxrec community??
Some wise person before said let them spar again?? Why not Billy make it a open spar and let them where the small gloves?? Ricky shouldn't need to get out of first gear.. Ronnie may talk and we may contribute to it but at the end of the day we are all willing to back up everything we say!! You seem to be a lot of hot air. Like a big ballon
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 24 Feb 2014, 09:00
by Black Sam Bellamy
Ronnie what about a fight with Mitchell Smith on the next Copper Box Bill in April ?
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 24 Feb 2014, 10:59
by billy nelson
Ronnie Clark wrote:Billy, you think your some kinda gangster cause u sniff powder! You can't even be honest to yourself never mind anyone else! Your a compulsive liar going nowhere in life! You concentrate on yourself and your team! I will concentrate on me and my team! I don't claim to be amazing at boxing Billy I have never once in my life said I am amazing!? I do believe the opportunities I get though I will take with both hands and try my hardest! You keep talking about me and Ricky and him hurting me :s Lets face the truth! I wasn't the one on the canvas was I??? I was also the one that never pulled out sparring!!!
#TruthHurts
I sniff powder ronnie I'm afraid not pal,I've never took drugs or been in trouble with the police in my life unlike yourself mate lol, you think anyone will take notice of your bullshit claims, they won't,aren't you the guy that said you'll win a world title?
You got you arse handed to you in my gym by Ricky it takes a man to admit it ronnie, how many times did you say good shot good shot?
To be honest we only sparred twice with you coz Ricky never got anything out the spar it was way to one sided but you'd never admit it.
Train hard ronnie and try and gets some worthwhile fights
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 24 Feb 2014, 11:02
by billy nelson
daviddee wrote:billy nelson wrote:Ronnie Clark wrote:When was I offered the fight with John Simpson?! Your a complete liar Billy... Let's clear up facts! I was offered Simpson on 1 or 2 weeks notice?! I said yeah it was around January last year?!? I said on a condition win lose or draw he would give me a rematch in the March!!! Morrison refused that as Simpson said he wasn't ready, and Billy John wasn't with you at that time so whoever feeding u the lies maybe you gotta get a more reliable source ;)
you again have totally contradicted yourself Tadpole,WHEN WAS I OFFERED THE FIGHT AND YOU ANSWERED IT YOURSELF,effing CLASS."Source"HOW MORE RELIABLE CAN YOU GET THAN YOU EX MANAGER, Ronnie stop bullshitting people on here your a good fighter but nowhere near as good as you think you are.
Ive never said john was with me when you were offered the fight TWICe, Simpson knows you were offered it but even now doesnt see any point in fighting you simply coz your not at his level and beating you wouldnt take his career forward.
Ive read you think you will win a world title,come on Ronnie look what happened when you sparred with the big gloves on against a world class fighter, you were hurt with head and body shot several times and you really need to get out the habit of repeateadly saying good shot!when you get hit flush.
You said NO to fighting Simpson end of, you are in no position at all to demand rematches i find that laughable.
Let's work this out he had a bad habit of saying good shot. I have seen it so many times and I go mental at him and it's silly but to say he's hurt is crazy. He's smiling when he says it.. Ronnie is like no other fighter in the fact he likes to get hit. I have been in your gym lots of times and never once seen him hurt or rocked.. I can't say that for some of your fighters.. Your on the defensive about Ronnie's sparring with Ricky for some reason?? Would you like to share that with the Boxrec community??
Some wise person before said let them spar again?? Why not Billy make it a open spar and let them where the small gloves?? Ricky shouldn't need to get out of first gear.. Ronnie may talk and we may contribute to it but at the end of the day we are all willing to back up everything we say!! You seem to be a lot of hot air. Like a big ballon
Your fornicating unbeleiveable if they had the wee gloves on ronnie would get sparkled,your so fornicating deluded up there it's unreal.
You just summed it up yourself RONNIE LIKE GETTING HIT!YES HE'S A ONE OFF ALL RIGHT

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 24 Feb 2014, 11:04
by billy nelson
JamieM wrote:I wasnt meaning that Billy I was talking about the whole stuff with Harrison when you spoke about Harrison and Morrison said you had a big mouth. Michael will go down his own route and I hope that both of them can get in contention and have a fight for something meaningful. Sport is all about rivalries etc and its not a bad thing. Ronnie thinks he can beat Michael, Michael believes he can beat Ronnie, they are proud and thats way it is, only thing is when people say meet when something on line its just a risk as it may never happen but hey thats life. I dont know regarding managers telling fighters who to not train and I have an idea who you are talking about and I dont have much time for the man myself but hey what can we do? but the arguments between two of scotlands top promotors could be better if people would work together and get some top fights domestically that would drag fans into shows and not leave them short changed
I'd like to see all the promoters in Scotland work together,there would be many good fight that could be potentially made, I agree 100%.
Unfortunately I don't see it happening.
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 24 Feb 2014, 11:04
by mickey1975
I'd step back from these threads if I was you now, Billy. You're the trainer of a World champion, you should be above this pal.
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 24 Feb 2014, 11:10
by billy nelson
daviddee wrote:billy nelson wrote:Ronnie Clark wrote:When was I offered the fight with John Simpson?! Your a complete liar Billy... Let's clear up facts! I was offered Simpson on 1 or 2 weeks notice?! I said yeah it was around January last year?!? I said on a condition win lose or draw he would give me a rematch in the March!!! Morrison refused that as Simpson said he wasn't ready, and Billy John wasn't with you at that time so whoever feeding u the lies maybe you gotta get a more reliable source ;)
you again have totally contradicted yourself Tadpole,WHEN WAS I OFFERED THE FIGHT AND YOU ANSWERED IT YOURSELF,effing CLASS."Source"HOW MORE RELIABLE CAN YOU GET THAN YOU EX MANAGER, Ronnie stop bullshitting people on here your a good fighter but nowhere near as good as you think you are.
Ive never said john was with me when you were offered the fight TWICe, Simpson knows you were offered it but even now doesnt see any point in fighting you simply coz your not at his level and beating you wouldnt take his career forward.
Ive read you think you will win a world title,come on Ronnie look what happened when you sparred with the big gloves on against a world class fighter, you were hurt with head and body shot several times and you really need to get out the habit of repeateadly saying good shot!when you get hit flush.
You said NO to fighting Simpson end of, you are in no position at all to demand rematches i find that laughable.
Let's work this out he had a bad habit of saying good shot. I have seen it so many times and I go mental at him and it's silly but to say he's hurt is crazy. He's smiling when he says it.. Ronnie is like no other fighter in the fact he likes to get hit. I have been in your gym lots of times and never once seen him hurt or rocked.. I can't say that for some of your fighters.. Your on the defensive about Ronnie's sparring with Ricky for some reason?? Would you like to share that with the Boxrec community??
Some wise person before said let them spar again?? Why not Billy make it a open spar and let them where the small gloves?? Ricky shouldn't need to get out of first gear.. Ronnie may talk and we may contribute to it but at the end of the day we are all willing to back up everything we say!! You seem to be a lot of hot air. Like a big ballon
The simple reason the wont spar again is Ronnie isn't good enough!
Not when I can get terry Flannagan or Luke Campbell totally diffrent leauge, do remember It does Ricky no good just hitting someone at will
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 24 Feb 2014, 11:17
by billy nelson
Gents I will speak to you all on Sunday,take care BN
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 24 Feb 2014, 11:19
by mickey1975
I would like to see Ronnie get the call to face Campbell. A decent step up, yet still a safe win.
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 24 Feb 2014, 11:23
by palooka
mickey1975 wrote:I would like to see Ronnie get the call to face Campbell. A decent step up, yet still a safe win.
Reading this thread I'm not sure who'll win.
Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014
Posted: 24 Feb 2014, 11:32
by JamieM
Scottish boxing needs promotors to work together but hey will never happen. Absolute joke