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Re: Porter v Brook - August 9th NYC
Posted: 11 Jun 2014, 07:33
by TJ77
How on earth can you give kell more of a chance based on porters opposition when it's been ten times better than brooks.[/quote]
Porter has improved with each fight but the opposition he has faced since becoming a "big " name are limited in different ways and talented in others.
I honestly feel Alexander Mallinagi and Diaz are easier fights for Kell than Porter is due to his speed and power.
I also think that the names above are over achievers which is not taking away from their achievements which are World titles but being realistic about how they fight and where they were in terms of their careers when Porter got to them.
Kell has as everyone admits not fought a world class operator or even close but the reality is Porter is flattered A LITTLE BIT by the names he has beat.
Mallinagi is the magic man a pr guru to challenge dare I mention his name Max Clifford he has made his own luck and massively over achieved hats off but he is no real bench mark for Porter V Brook.
Shawn was able to take his shots knowing they don't hold much venom and ruin him up close which looked great and did damage
With Alexander it was a case of get in buzz him don't let him spoil get back out and repeat he is like a jack in the box he was fighting for the title Devon didn't look like he was trying to defend one did he?
Re: Porter v Brook - August 9th NYC
Posted: 11 Jun 2014, 07:36
by lefty
TJ77 wrote:How on earth can you give kell more of a chance based on porters opposition when it's been ten times better than brooks.
Porter has improved with each fight but the opposition he has faced since becoming a "big " name are limited in different ways and talented in others.
I honestly feel Alexander Mallinagi and Diaz are easier fights for Kell than Porter is due to his speed and power.
I also think that the names above are over achievers which is not taking away from their achievements which are World titles but being realistic about how they fight and where they were in terms of their careers when Porter got to them.
Kell has as everyone admits not fought a world class operator or even close but the reality is Porter is flattered A LITTLE BIT by the names he has beat.
Mallinagi is the magic man a pr guru to challenge dare I mention his name Max Clifford he has made his own luck and massively over achieved hats off but he is no real bench mark for Porter V Brook.
Shawn was able to take his shots knowing they don't hold much venom and ruin him up close which looked great and did damage
With Alexander it was a case of get in buzz him don't let him spoil get back out and repeat he is like a jack in the box he was fighting for the title Devon didn't look like he was trying to defend one did he?[/quote]
I dunno, Senchenko would be world class although admittedly at the lower level.
Re: Porter v Brook - August 9th NYC
Posted: 11 Jun 2014, 07:49
by TJ77
columbo wrote:TJ77 wrote:How on earth can you give kell more of a chance based on porters opposition when it's been ten times better than brooks.
Porter has improved with each fight but the opposition he has faced since becoming a "big " name are limited in different ways and talented in others.
I honestly feel Alexander Mallinagi and Diaz are easier fights for Kell than Porter is due to his speed and power.
I also think that the names above are over achievers which is not taking away from their achievements which are World titles but being realistic about how they fight and where they were in terms of their careers when Porter got to them.
Kell has as everyone admits not fought a world class operator or even close but the reality is Porter is flattered A LITTLE BIT by the names he has beat.
Mallinagi is the magic man a pr guru to challenge dare I mention his name Max Clifford he has made his own luck and massively over achieved hats off but he is no real bench mark for Porter V Brook.
Shawn was able to take his shots knowing they don't hold much venom and ruin him up close which looked great and did damage
With Alexander it was a case of get in buzz him don't let him spoil get back out and repeat he is like a jack in the box he was fighting for the title Devon didn't look like he was trying to defend one did he?
I dunno, Senchenko would be world class although admittedly at the lower level.[/quote]
columbo has someone stolen your laptop mate?
I know you didn't think I would mention Senchenko when Paulie beat him I hold Mallinagi in higher esteem than Senchenko would severely lessen my point if I didnt and I would get slaughtered.
Re: Porter v Brook - August 9th NYC
Posted: 11 Jun 2014, 07:55
by lefty
TJ77 wrote:columbo wrote:TJ77 wrote:How on earth can you give kell more of a chance based on porters opposition when it's been ten times better than brooks.
Porter has improved with each fight but the opposition he has faced since becoming a "big " name are limited in different ways and talented in others.
I honestly feel Alexander Mallinagi and Diaz are easier fights for Kell than Porter is due to his speed and power.
I also think that the names above are over achievers which is not taking away from their achievements which are World titles but being realistic about how they fight and where they were in terms of their careers when Porter got to them.
Kell has as everyone admits not fought a world class operator or even close but the reality is Porter is flattered A LITTLE BIT by the names he has beat.
Mallinagi is the magic man a pr guru to challenge dare I mention his name Max Clifford he has made his own luck and massively over achieved hats off but he is no real bench mark for Porter V Brook.
Shawn was able to take his shots knowing they don't hold much venom and ruin him up close which looked great and did damage
With Alexander it was a case of get in buzz him don't let him spoil get back out and repeat he is like a jack in the box he was fighting for the title Devon didn't look like he was trying to defend one did he?
I dunno, Senchenko would be world class although admittedly at the lower level.
columbo has someone stolen your laptop mate?
I know you didn't think I would mention Senchenko when Paulie beat him I hold Mallinagi in higher esteem than Senchenko would severely lessen my point if I didnt and I would get slaughtered.[/quote]
Lol im becoming more reasonable
Re: Porter v Brook - August 9th NYC
Posted: 11 Jun 2014, 07:56
by stujones
Okay, we can question Kell's opposition, but his manner of his wins in the main have been fantastic at solid "European" level. He does deserve this chance and its a tough fight to call.
I still think Kell is a little bit special, so I am going for a Kell win.
Re: Porter v Brook - August 9th NYC
Posted: 11 Jun 2014, 09:22
by bigB
black panther wrote:bigB wrote:I cannot wait for this fight - trying to raise funds to go out to this.
£1040 for flights and hotel from Manchester - New York via Amsterdam and stopping in a decent hotel on 7th Avenue near times sqaure where I ended up stopping after the Alexander fight fell through.
Fight tickets are around £150-£200 for ringside.
Think its Danny Garcia headlining at the Barclays Centre against Lamont Peterson unified title fight
Now that's value! How much was Froch-Groves ringside? £500? £1000?
£1500 Froch
Depends who else is fighting but said $200-$300 which is £150-£200