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Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 15:21
by Bodyshot3
As someone who thought he was the man with the speed, explosive punching power and attitude to beat Wlad...that was a very interesting and honest interview.

'Toegate' aside; he's finally put it on the record and said that he made a mess of his training and could have pushed himself far harder in the fight and that it was a deeply disappointing and lame challenge that in turn damaged his overall credibility. Well done David!

I am in the minority here, but I actually would like to see David fight Wlad again for the simple reason that he is still one of the few challengers out there with the right tools to upset Wlad and that he'd have a point to prove.

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 15:23
by Datsue
Final round wrote:What's the deal with Fury anyway? He was abusing Adam Smith the other day,
@SkyAdamSmith Now we know the real reason why your SO biased Towards team Fury! Because 10 years ago u got battered by a traveler! #Wanker!!

Has he been told to never darken Sky Boxing's doors again? I know he's thick but you think he'd have one eye on the future.

I think the salient thing to take away from this is that someone quickly needs to explain to Tyson the difference between being biased "for" & "against" someone.

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 15:55
by SMALL AXE1
expe wrote:Not buying it for a second, he doesn't care that people wasted their money, he's just trying to sell a comeback.

This. What about the people who paid for hotels and tickets TWICE for Fury, Charr fight?

Haye is a waste of ink.

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 16:06
by Final round
Datsue wrote:
Final round wrote:What's the deal with Fury anyway? He was abusing Adam Smith the other day,
@SkyAdamSmith Now we know the real reason why your SO biased Towards team Fury! Because 10 years ago u got battered by a traveler! #Wanker!!

Has he been told to never darken Sky Boxing's doors again? I know he's thick but you think he'd have one eye on the future.

I think the salient thing to take away from this is that someone quickly needs to explain to Tyson the difference between being biased "for" & "against" someone.
:lol: I'd imagine someone has tried to somewhere along the line..

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 16:27
by Final round
columbo wrote:
Final round wrote:What's the deal with Fury anyway? He was abusing Adam Smith the other day,
@SkyAdamSmith Now we know the real reason why your SO biased Towards team Fury! Because 10 years ago u got battered by a traveler! #Wanker!!

Has he been told to never darken Sky Boxing's doors again? I know he's thick but you think he'd have one eye on the future.
I find it hard to imagine Smith in any kind of physical altercation lol
Another tweet that Fury took down said is 'that why Adam has taken up boxing training'

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 16:32
by Ian1973
Haye acted like a right twat prior to the Klitschko fight. From reading his quotes and from seeing him via the media in the last year or so I'd say the guy has grown up and now developed into a decent and likable human being. Good on him. :salut:

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 16:58
by Controversial
Horse wrote:
Controversial wrote:Horse what would Haye gain from pulling out of fights with fake injuries?
So he doesn't have to fight them.

I didn't think there were many people who thought his 'injuries' against Vitali and Charr were genuine.
That makes no sense, if he didn't want to fight them he wouldn't have signed the contract. What would he gain from not fighting?

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 17:02
by Horse
Controversial wrote:That makes no sense, if he didn't want to fight them he wouldn't have signed the contract. What would he gain from not fighting?
Can't you remember the Vitali and Charr situations? He had plenty to gain by pulling out.

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 17:11
by Controversial
Horse wrote:
Controversial wrote:That makes no sense, if he didn't want to fight them he wouldn't have signed the contract. What would he gain from not fighting?
Can't you remember the Vitali and Charr situations? He had plenty to gain by pulling out.
So what did he gain then? The Charr and Fury fights were both scheduled in 2013 and Haye last fought in 2012.

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 17:41
by funso banjo baby
the vegan stance is good :salut: hope he sticks to it. its not easy

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 18:35
by keithmoonhangover
I still want to see him fight Fury. I bought a ticket for the last one and I'll buy a ticket again if it happens.

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 20:35
by chiggsy
columbo wrote:
Final round wrote:What's the deal with Fury anyway? He was abusing Adam Smith the other day,
@SkyAdamSmith Now we know the real reason why your SO biased Towards team Fury! Because 10 years ago u got battered by a traveler! #Wanker!!

Has he been told to never darken Sky Boxing's doors again? I know he's thick but you think he'd have one eye on the future.
I find it hard to imagine Smith in any kind of physical altercation lol

It's a shame there's no footage around of his spar with adrian dodson from the 90's.

It was every bit as funny as you might imagine.

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 21:02
by Gamblingman
Big props to Haye for being vegan!

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 22:53
by davie
Bodyshot3 wrote:As someone who thought he was the man with the speed, explosive punching power and attitude to beat Wlad...that was a very interesting and honest interview.

'Toegate' aside; he's finally put it on the record and said that he made a mess of his training and could have pushed himself far harder in the fight and that it was a deeply disappointing and lame challenge that in turn damaged his overall credibility. Well done David!

I am in the minority here, but I actually would like to see David fight Wlad again for the simple reason that he is still one of the few challengers out there with the right tools to upset Wlad and that he'd have a point to prove.

as cringeworthy as it was when he pulled the toe out. I still maintain, that toe was a perfectly valid excuse for his performance in that fight, i always have.

You try walking on a broken toe, let alone spring off of it to make the kind of explosive attacks he would have to make to get in range to hurt wlad

I, like you, thought and still think he has the tools to upset Wlad. I reckon his speed was the weapon he needed to get up close and in range to land a big shot

I'd favour Wlad in a rematch, but if fully fit i'd give Haye a good chance of getting the stoppage. If he had not had that broken toe, I gave him an even better chance in 2011.

This will get roundly laughed at. But as I said, try breaking your toe and jumping around a ring, it's not going to happen

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 10 Jun 2014, 01:47
by Sklar
chiggsy wrote:
columbo wrote:
Final round wrote:What's the deal with Fury anyway? He was abusing Adam Smith the other day,
@SkyAdamSmith Now we know the real reason why your SO biased Towards team Fury! Because 10 years ago u got battered by a traveler! #Wanker!!

Has he been told to never darken Sky Boxing's doors again? I know he's thick but you think he'd have one eye on the future.
I find it hard to imagine Smith in any kind of physical altercation lol

It's a shame there's no footage around of his spar with adrian dodson from the 90's.

It was every bit as funny as you might imagine.
I'd forgotten about that. I hope somebody has it and uploads, it was absolutely hilarous, like a Mr Bean sketch.

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 10 Jun 2014, 04:44
by danconnollyeire
Taansend wrote:
danconnollyeire wrote:
TheLeprechaun wrote:Just out of interest,how would a vegan boxer get his protein?
Nuts, beans, quorn, hemp. Bradley is a vegan
This is what I was trying to say :lol:
You said it better than me :TU:

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 10 Jun 2014, 10:36
by expe
davie wrote:
Bodyshot3 wrote:As someone who thought he was the man with the speed, explosive punching power and attitude to beat Wlad...that was a very interesting and honest interview.

'Toegate' aside; he's finally put it on the record and said that he made a mess of his training and could have pushed himself far harder in the fight and that it was a deeply disappointing and lame challenge that in turn damaged his overall credibility. Well done David!

I am in the minority here, but I actually would like to see David fight Wlad again for the simple reason that he is still one of the few challengers out there with the right tools to upset Wlad and that he'd have a point to prove.

as cringeworthy as it was when he pulled the toe out. I still maintain, that toe was a perfectly valid excuse for his performance in that fight, i always have.

You try walking on a broken toe, let alone spring off of it to make the kind of explosive attacks he would have to make to get in range to hurt wlad

I, like you, thought and still think he has the tools to upset Wlad. I reckon his speed was the weapon he needed to get up close and in range to land a big shot

I'd favour Wlad in a rematch, but if fully fit i'd give Haye a good chance of getting the stoppage. If he had not had that broken toe, I gave him an even better chance in 2011.

This will get roundly laughed at. But as I said, try breaking your toe and jumping around a ring, it's not going to happen
If it was his big toe, I could understand, but it was his little toe, you hardly put any weight on it and if fighters can fight with broken hands and jaws and go through the pain barrier, he could have done it with his little toe.

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 10 Jun 2014, 13:22
by Controversial
Controversial wrote:
Horse wrote:
Controversial wrote:That makes no sense, if he didn't want to fight them he wouldn't have signed the contract. What would he gain from not fighting?
Can't you remember the Vitali and Charr situations? He had plenty to gain by pulling out.
So what did he gain then? The Charr and Fury fights were both scheduled in 2013 and Haye last fought in 2012.
I'm still wondering what Haye gained from pulling out of these fights???

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 10 Jun 2014, 13:23
by Horse
Controversial wrote:I'm still wondering what Haye gained from pulling out of these fights???
Really? Think about it.

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 10 Jun 2014, 13:43
by keithmoonhangover
expe wrote:
davie wrote:
Bodyshot3 wrote:As someone who thought he was the man with the speed, explosive punching power and attitude to beat Wlad...that was a very interesting and honest interview.

'Toegate' aside; he's finally put it on the record and said that he made a mess of his training and could have pushed himself far harder in the fight and that it was a deeply disappointing and lame challenge that in turn damaged his overall credibility. Well done David!

I am in the minority here, but I actually would like to see David fight Wlad again for the simple reason that he is still one of the few challengers out there with the right tools to upset Wlad and that he'd have a point to prove.

as cringeworthy as it was when he pulled the toe out. I still maintain, that toe was a perfectly valid excuse for his performance in that fight, i always have.

You try walking on a broken toe, let alone spring off of it to make the kind of explosive attacks he would have to make to get in range to hurt wlad

I, like you, thought and still think he has the tools to upset Wlad. I reckon his speed was the weapon he needed to get up close and in range to land a big shot

I'd favour Wlad in a rematch, but if fully fit i'd give Haye a good chance of getting the stoppage. If he had not had that broken toe, I gave him an even better chance in 2011.

This will get roundly laughed at. But as I said, try breaking your toe and jumping around a ring, it's not going to happen
If it was his big toe, I could understand, but it was his little toe, you hardly put any weight on it and if fighters can fight with broken hands and jaws and go through the pain barrier, he could have done it with his little toe.
I've broken the little toe on my left foot twice. Both times, it effected the way I walked. I was sparring a fair bit back then and it was the last thing in the world I wanted to do with a broken toe. I have the utmost respect for Haye for taking the fight with that injury. He could have (and maybe should have) postponed the fight, but didn't. Yes, he gave a pretty shit performance, but in reality, Wlad is just a bridge too far for Haye. He lost and as a result, tried to justify that after the fight by showing the world his injury. People justify things all the time, especially boxers after a loss. Who wants to admit that they were wrong and that the other bloke is just much better than them?

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 10 Jun 2014, 20:00
by Controversial
Horse wrote:
Controversial wrote:I'm still wondering what Haye gained from pulling out of these fights???
Really? Think about it.
He lost two big paydays, dropped in the rankings, lost money on 2 lots of training fees, lost a lot of respect and has been out of the ring for 2 years. How is that gaining anything?

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 10 Jun 2014, 21:03
by mickey1975
Controversial wrote:
Horse wrote:
Controversial wrote:I'm still wondering what Haye gained from pulling out of these fights???
Really? Think about it.
He lost two big paydays, dropped in the rankings, lost money on 2 lots of training fees, lost a lot of respect and has been out of the ring for 2 years. How is that gaining anything?
Because he looked sh!t in training and was worried his legacy was going to be ruined by losing to the big fella? Trust me, Tyson was ready.

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 10 Jun 2014, 21:54
by Controversial
Haha, now that I doubt very much

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 10 Jun 2014, 23:14
by mickey1975
It's true...

Re: David Haye "I lied, I let people down"

Posted: 11 Jun 2014, 00:35
by Controversial
Says who? It's an opinion, not fact.