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Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 04 Jul 2014, 12:16
by seanilius
Neither will win a world title so that really dampens any excitement for the fight. I'm convinced people only watch Fury to see him get knocked out. Chisora isn't a draw at all.
It's a low stakes rematch. Is anyone really that bothered about the outcome?
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 04 Jul 2014, 12:50
by tiny_acres
mickey1975 wrote:moogie101 wrote:tiny_acres wrote:I am confused.Fury is hated because he is a loud mouth jerk.
Chisora gets love because he is a loud mouth jerk.
Fury has at least won against his toughest opponents while having 2 knockdowns score
against him.
Chisora has lost every time he has stepped up while having 2 knockdowns scored against him.
Fury handled Chisora the first time with no problems.I feel Fury has improved and will do
the same thing.
I get the point you're making, But I do hope you not trying to compare Fury's "toughest opponents" with those that Chisora has faced over the years??
Chisora at the very least has stepped up whilst Fury hasn't come close with his list of opponents.
But was prepared to to fight Haye. I don't get your point.
Fury was more than willing to face Haye.Because of circumstances way beyond his control he was left sitting on the
sidelines for nearly a year.
I have no doubt in my mind for the right money Fury would fight anyone.But I do not think he
would risk his high rating for peanuts.I don't consider this ducking opponents.I think it is taking advantage
of the position he is in.I feel that way about several highly rated contenders that can and will make millions
once their opportunity arises.
If and when Fury defeats Chisora.Wlad will be next.This fight can and will make him millions.Why risk it
with Povetkins,Pulevs or Wilder?It does not make sense.
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 04 Jul 2014, 14:23
by jessi
seanilius wrote:Neither will win a world title so that really dampens any excitement for the fight. I'm convinced people only watch Fury to see him get knocked out. Chisora isn't a draw at all.
It's a low stakes rematch. Is anyone really that bothered about the outcome?
Yes, I'm going and cheering on del boy !
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 04 Jul 2014, 14:25
by lefty
mickey1975 wrote:tiny_acres wrote:I am confused.Fury is hated because he is a loud mouth jerk.
Chisora gets love because he is a loud mouth jerk.
Fury has at least won against his toughest opponents while having 2 knockdowns score
against him.
Chisora has lost every time he has stepped up while having 2 knockdowns scored against him.
Fury handled Chisora the first time with no problems.I feel Fury has improved and will do
the same thing.
Fury is much more popular in the general public. He will have the crowd that night. Massively. I don't think Del has ever sold a ticket. Maybe a few on here should get over their agoraphobia and go cheer him on?
Low Mickey. Not surprising though.
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 04 Jul 2014, 14:56
by brilo33
you don't see a boring Tyson fury fights,i swear people want to go back to the Danny Williams v sprott days
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 04 Jul 2014, 14:59
by handsofstone
brilo33 wrote:you don't see a boring Tyson fury fights,i swear people want to go back to the Danny Williams v sprott days
Ah the Williams,Sprott,Harrison triangle,the good old days
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 07 Jul 2014, 04:10
by ILikeBeer
brilo33 wrote:you don't see a boring Tyson fury fights,i swear people want to go back to the Danny Williams v sprott days
You say that, but I remember being incensed by the result of the second Williams vs Sprott fight. Looking back though, it was probably Sprott's fault for leaving himself undefended.
Remember when fans were chanting "Cheat, Cheat, Cheat!" at Danny?
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 09 Jul 2014, 03:04
by Grilling Machine
handsofstone wrote:brilo33 wrote:you don't see a boring Tyson fury fights,i swear people want to go back to the Danny Williams v sprott days
Ah the Williams,Sprott,Harrison triangle,the good old days
"Skelton's up on his toes!"
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 09 Jul 2014, 05:03
by Datsue
Grilling Machine wrote:handsofstone wrote:brilo33 wrote:you don't see a boring Tyson fury fights,i swear people want to go back to the Danny Williams v sprott days
Ah the Williams,Sprott,Harrison triangle,the good old days
"Skelton's up on his toes!"
Heady stuff. Audley vs Danny, anyone? Remember the ironic cheers when, after about nine rounds of Mogadon-laced "action", Harrison actually threw a left cross?
It missed.
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 09 Jul 2014, 05:10
by black panther
ILikeBeer wrote:brilo33 wrote:you don't see a boring Tyson fury fights,i swear people want to go back to the Danny Williams v sprott days
You say that, but I remember being incensed by the result of the second Williams vs Sprott fight. Looking back though, it was probably Sprott's fault for leaving himself undefended.
Remember when fans were chanting "Cheat, Cheat, Cheat!" at Danny?
Danny had some fantastic finishes. The left hook that finished Sprott after the low blows was devastating.
Then there was the Kali Meehan blowout, the comeback bludgeoning of "Big" Bob Mirovic, the one armed knockout of Potter....
If only he had got his head and weight right. He definitely could have picked up a world title of some sorts.
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 09 Jul 2014, 06:42
by revporl
Chisora was very overweight and apathetic in the run up to the first fight and during the fight itself. He's lost weight, seems more motivated and has performed significantly better in his last few. I don;t think Fury has improved much, although he should be the winner on paper. It's quite an intriguing matchup and I'm looking forward to watching it. On telly. I mean, it's not that good that I'd leave the house.
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 09 Jul 2014, 07:22
by mickey1975
revporl wrote:Chisora was very overweight and apathetic in the run up to the first fight and during the fight itself. He's lost weight, seems more motivated and has performed significantly better in his last few. I don;t think Fury has improved much, although he should be the winner on paper. It's quite an intriguing matchup and I'm looking forward to watching it. On telly. I mean, it's not that good that I'd leave the house.
Fury was equally in as bad a shape as Del in the first fight. Fury has improved a lot. Del can't improve. He is what he is.
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 09 Jul 2014, 10:37
by tiny_acres
mickey1975 wrote:revporl wrote:Chisora was very overweight and apathetic in the run up to the first fight and during the fight itself. He's lost weight, seems more motivated and has performed significantly better in his last few. I don;t think Fury has improved much, although he should be the winner on paper. It's quite an intriguing matchup and I'm looking forward to watching it. On telly. I mean, it's not that good that I'd leave the house.
Fury was equally in as bad a shape as Del in the first fight. Fury has improved a lot. Del can't improve. He is what he is.
Chisora has improved somewhat but he is what he is.Is correct.He is a decent fighter who will be used
as a measuring stick for real contenders.
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 09 Jul 2014, 16:38
by Karl Jade
mickey1975 wrote:revporl wrote:Chisora was very overweight and apathetic in the run up to the first fight and during the fight itself. He's lost weight, seems more motivated and has performed significantly better in his last few. I don;t think Fury has improved much, although he should be the winner on paper. It's quite an intriguing matchup and I'm looking forward to watching it. On telly. I mean, it's not that good that I'd leave the house.
Fury was equally in as bad a shape as Del in the first fight. Fury has improved a lot. Del can't improve. He is what he is.
You think 6'9" Fury coming in at 255 (he says his best weight is 252) constitutes equally bad shape as Chisora coming in a 261?
Aye, whatev.
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 09 Jul 2014, 16:40
by mickey1975
I think an out of shape younger Fury who still had too much for Del will still be outclassed when Luke is fully prepared.
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 09 Jul 2014, 16:42
by mickey1975
mickey1975 wrote:I think an out of shape younger Fury who still had too much for Del will still out class Del when Luke is fully prepared.
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 11 Jul 2014, 21:36
by Karl Jade
Luke.
I've heard most of Fury's sparring has been with Martin Rogan and Eddie Chambers. Absolutely ridiculous (even by his standards) if true.
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 12 Jul 2014, 00:21
by polecateddy
It has to be doubtful whether Fury will be in as good shape as the Johnson fight, given his last performance. I think the bubble bursts with this one. Chisora TKO9.
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 12 Jul 2014, 01:58
by mickey1975
polecateddy wrote:It has to be doubtful whether Fury will be in as good shape as the Johnson fight, given his last performance. I think the bubble bursts with this one. Chisora TKO9.
Coming from a bloke who has Dean Francis above Benn and Eubank, I think we can discount that...
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 12 Jul 2014, 02:43
by polecateddy
mickey1975 wrote:polecateddy wrote:It has to be doubtful whether Fury will be in as good shape as the Johnson fight, given his last performance. I think the bubble bursts with this one. Chisora TKO9.
Coming from a bloke who has Dean Francis above Benn and Eubank, I think we can discount that...
You clearly have no imagination and are basically a sheep!
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 12 Jul 2014, 03:14
by mickey1975
You clearly have a vivid imagination if you have Francis in the top 5! Sheep? On what grounds? I go where I want.
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 12 Jul 2014, 03:46
by polecateddy
mickey1975 wrote:You clearly have a vivid imagination if you have Francis in the top 5! Sheep? On what grounds? I go where I want.
I looked at his early performances when stopping David Starie and winning the Euro champs and assessed him as capable of beating Eubank and Benn. What's wrong with that?
Re: Will Fury vs Chisora TWO capture the imagination?
Posted: 12 Jul 2014, 04:13
by mickey1975
Everything. I watched him getting beat up and formed my opinion on that....