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as far as I'm concerned he is fighting who he should be fighting at this stage of his career. So far he has done everything and then some that has been expected of him, he's finished all of his fights against people who could have taken him the distance but he finished early and well done to him for that.

these next two fights give him experience, his next fight is against someone who took David price the distance so it'll be a good gauge of his level now and Sprott is a veteran like skelton who he should beat but its a test for him because he wont be a push over.

the way he is going I wouldn't be surprised if we saw him fighting Price or even Hughie Fury next year and then the British title not to long after

Tuan_Jim wrote:

Horse wrote:A consensus top 5 world ranked heavyweight would be stuck at Area level 20 years ago? Would a British version of Wladimir Klitschko be good enough to win the Lonsdale belt back then?

Which consensus is this, Horse? Could you provide a link?

Fury in the 1990s would be even more of a novelty act than he is now. That he's talked himself into contention without a significant win says everything about today's heavyweight division.

A Derek Williams could have beaten Tyson Fury.

I think you're doing Tyson Fury a big disservice there.

I don't even think we've seen the best of him yet; he's continued to improve with each fight and he's still only 25 years old.

I think he can be a genuine world champion and call me crazy, but amongst the current crop of heavyweights I think he'd give Klitschko the most trouble.

You think his last fight was an "improvement"? It was another chinup pub brawl between men with jiggly bodies.

Tuan_Jim wrote:You think his last fight was an "improvement"? It was another chinup pub brawl between men with jiggly bodies.

He looked terrible in his last fight - I agree.

But there were mitigating circumstances there; the long time out of the ring, the mental letdown of the Haye fight falling through and two wasted training camps.

In the Johnson fight he performed very well I feel.

Tuan_Jim wrote:

Horse wrote:A consensus top 5 world ranked heavyweight would be stuck at Area level 20 years ago? Would a British version of Wladimir Klitschko be good enough to win the Lonsdale belt back then?

Which consensus is this, Horse? Could you provide a link?

Fury in the 1990s would be even more of a novelty act than he is now. That he's talked himself into contention without a significant win says everything about today's heavyweight division.

That was exactly my point fury is talking his way to a title shot and everyone is believing the garbage.

This is not unnatural you know, its a phenomenon.

If David Cameron came on the news this morning and said 'Good people of Great Britain, I have to inform you that aliens have landed in Skegness and they will be doing a live podcast tonight on BBC Radio Lincs' 90% of GB would believe him and tune in, 10% would have killed themselves.

The problem with Fury is that he's dishing out the hype with swear words. Believe you me on a Saturday night while im work in casualty, if a guy came in who was 6 foot tall and had a bit of muscle and said to me 'Listen muverfecker, im Mr Pink and im the fecking physco' of course im going to believe him. Then if another bloke came along and knocked the pudendum out I would say 'fcuk me, I believed in the hype'

Horse wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:Which consensus is this, Horse? Could you provide a link?

He is a top 5 heavyweight in the world.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=181944
http://checkhookboxing.com/showthread.p ... 014-UPDATE
http://ringtv.craveonline.com/ratings/heavyweight
http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?country=& ... &SUBMIT=Go

Tuan_Jim wrote:Fury in the 1990s would be even more of a novelty act than he is now. That he's talked himself into contention without a significant win says everything about today's heavyweight division.

He has one of the strongest records in the division.

He's fought fcuk all!

northern wrote:as far as I'm concerned he is fighting who he should be fighting at this stage of his career. So far he has done everything and then some that has been expected of him, he's finished all of his fights against people who could have taken him the distance but he finished early and well done to him for that.

these next two fights give him experience, his next fight is against someone who took David price the distance so it'll be a good gauge of his level now and Sprott is a veteran like skelton who he should beat but its a test for him because he wont be a push over.

the way he is going I wouldn't be surprised if we saw him fighting Price or even Hughie Fury next year and then the British title not to long after

I agree here too, someone said he hasnt taken a punch. Isnt that the whole point of boxing?

black panther wrote:I think you're doing Tyson Fury a big disservice there.

I don't even think we've seen the best of him yet; he's continued to improve with each fight and he's still only 25 years old.

I think he can be a genuine world champion and call me crazy, but amongst the current crop of heavyweights I think he'd give Klitschko the most trouble.

20 years ago the top Heavyweights where making ground by fighting in the US and getting a name. Fury can find his way out of the county never mind the UK. He's garbage in terms of yesteryear. The only reason folk are paying attention is because hes using foul language and talks a good fight. This fight is meaningless. So what if he beats Chisora

Take a look at this

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?country=& ... &SUBMIT=Go


What a load of shitty shitte. Honest to God, what a load of crap!

mimmy123 wrote:He's fought fcuk all!

Which heavyweights have a better record than Fury over the last three years?

Horse wrote:

mimmy123 wrote:He's fought fcuk all!

Which heavyweights have a better record than Fury over the last three years?

Pulev.

Horse wrote:

mimmy123 wrote:He's fought fcuk all!

Which heavyweights have a better record than Fury over the last three years?

I don't care about records Horse. Freddy Flintoff has a equally record as Fury, you cannot deny that!

mimmy123 wrote:I don't care about records Horse. Freddy Flintoff has a equally record as Fury, you cannot deny that!

I'm going to have to assume that you are trolling me.

Horse wrote:

mimmy123 wrote:I don't care about records Horse. Freddy Flintoff has a equally record as Fury, you cannot deny that!

I'm going to have to assume that you are trolling me.

come on horse, put up at least a fight without using the trolling word, we are having a debate here

mimmy123 wrote:

black panther wrote:I think you're doing Tyson Fury a big disservice there.

I don't even think we've seen the best of him yet; he's continued to improve with each fight and he's still only 25 years old.

I think he can be a genuine world champion and call me crazy, but amongst the current crop of heavyweights I think he'd give Klitschko the most trouble.

20 years ago the top Heavyweights where making ground by fighting in the US and getting a name. Fury can find his way out of the county never mind the UK. He's garbage in terms of yesteryear. The only reason folk are paying attention is because hes using foul language and talks a good fight. This fight is meaningless. So what if he beats Chisora

Take a look at this

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?country=& ... &SUBMIT=Go


What a load of shitty shitte. Honest to God, what a load of crap!

He boxed in America last year against Cunningham live on national TV over there, shows how much you know about his career if you're complaining about him not going there. Times have changed, the top heavyweights are no longer in the US, so going over there isn't really worth it anymore.

mimmy123 wrote:

Horse wrote:

mimmy123 wrote:I don't care about records Horse. Freddy Flintoff has a equally record as Fury, you cannot deny that!

I'm going to have to assume that you are trolling me.

come on horse, put up at least a fight without using the trolling word, we are having a debate here

You talk like Joshua's the fvcking second coming, then slag off Fury for not fighting anyone and say that Freddy Flintoff has an equal record to him. Hypocrisy, trolling and a lack of basic maths, since when was 22 equal to 1?

expe wrote:

mimmy123 wrote:

black panther wrote:I think you're doing Tyson Fury a big disservice there.

I don't even think we've seen the best of him yet; he's continued to improve with each fight and he's still only 25 years old.

I think he can be a genuine world champion and call me crazy, but amongst the current crop of heavyweights I think he'd give Klitschko the most trouble.

20 years ago the top Heavyweights where making ground by fighting in the US and getting a name. Fury can find his way out of the county never mind the UK. He's garbage in terms of yesteryear. The only reason folk are paying attention is because hes using foul language and talks a good fight. This fight is meaningless. So what if he beats Chisora

Take a look at this

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?country=& ... &SUBMIT=Go


What a load of shitty shitte. Honest to God, what a load of crap!

He boxed in America last year against Cunningham live on national TV over there, shows how much you know about his career if you're complaining about him not going there. Times have changed, the top heavyweights are no longer in the US, so going over there isn't really worth it anymore.

Sorry is that the Cruiserweight bloke?

sorry expe

ok basic maths 22-0 =100%

1-0 = 100%

Seems to add up to me.

mimmy123 wrote:sorry expe

ok basic maths 22-0 =100%

1-0 = 100%

Seems to add up to me.

In that case Tyson Fury is greater than Wladimir Klitschko because 22-0 = 100% and 62-3 = 95%

expe wrote:

mimmy123 wrote:sorry expe

ok basic maths 22-0 =100%

1-0 = 100%

Seems to add up to me.

In that case Tyson Fury is greater than Wladimir Klitschko because 22-0 = 100% and 62-3 = 95%

record wise yes

mimmy123 wrote:sorry expe

ok basic maths 22-0 =100%

1-0 = 100%

Seems to add up to me.

mimmy123 wrote:

expe wrote:

mimmy123 wrote:sorry expe

ok basic maths 22-0 =100%

1-0 = 100%

Seems to add up to me.

In that case Tyson Fury is greater than Wladimir Klitschko because 22-0 = 100% and 62-3 = 95%

record wise yes

No. Surely quality of opponents should be factored when judging records.

DMA1987 wrote:

mimmy123 wrote:

expe wrote: In that case Tyson Fury is greater than Wladimir Klitschko because 22-0 = 100% and 62-3 = 95%

record wise yes

No. Surely quality of opponents should be factored when judging records.

Don't be silly. How dare you apply logic and reason to this debate.

The quality of opponent is completely different to ratio of wins to losses etc

This thread has lost me. Who saw aliens in Skegness ?