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Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 07 Oct 2014, 02:12
by crusader
polecateddy wrote:It's an interesting fight. Soliman is 41 and confidence in his ability lately is based almost solely on having a g sign over increasing erratic Sturm. I wouldn't really put money on either guy with any degree of certainty.
Soliman's produced a string of solid performances over the past few years, though obviously the Sturm wins are the high points, and I thought he was quietly inching toward the top ten before the first of those wins.

Of course he could suddenly show his age, but going just by his performances--which are what age is supposed to impact--I wouldn't say that he looks as if he's regressing or is much worse than he was at his best.

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 07 Oct 2014, 07:47
by Impractical Poster
Always bet on black.

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 07 Oct 2014, 10:06
by polecateddy
crusader wrote:
polecateddy wrote:It's an interesting fight. Soliman is 41 and confidence in his ability lately is based almost solely on having a g sign over increasing erratic Sturm. I wouldn't really put money on either guy with any degree of certainty.
Soliman's produced a string of solid performances over the past few years, though obviously the Sturm wins are the high points, and I thought he was quietly inching toward the top ten before the first of those wins.

Of course he could suddenly show his age, but going just by his performances--which are what age is supposed to impact--I wouldn't say that he looks as if he's regressing or is much worse than he was at his best.
He was rocking and reeling in that 1st Sturm fight, with his balance looking terrible despite the win. I just think Taylor has a lot more firepower. We'll see anyway.

Ha! Shame I didn't bet. It was one of the more obvious upsets of the year I suppose.

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 07 Oct 2014, 16:13
by SenorPipino
Current odds have the shopworn, physically-damaged Taylor a 3-1 underdog.
If he takes quite a few head shots, expect the referee to quickly halt this bout sooner rather than later.

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 07 Oct 2014, 16:20
by ttornado
Freedom2013 wrote:Taylor sounds mentally ill. Listen to this:

http://instagram.com/p/tNGft2OILf/

And this:

http://instagram.com/p/tNJ9QmuIBa

This is the worst:

http://instagram.com/p/pPkjGQuIE4

Shocking stuff. He used to come across as a nice, level-headed guy.
A sign of lasting affects of his brain damage? Should this fight of been sanctioned?

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 07 Oct 2014, 18:17
by BAD INTENTIONS
Taylor is just talking shit like any guy in the hood.

The whole gun thing is rather common among Americans in that part of the country. Apparently, the warmer the climate in America, the more powerful gun you need for hunting and protecting your family from invading armies.

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 07 Oct 2014, 21:34
by diddy
Taylor was getting outboxed by Arthur friggin Abraham and was way behind in his last real fight before being stopped. And that was 5 f'n yrs ago.

That should tell you an awful lot of his career state to be behind on pts to a guy who barely throws punches. 5 years ago! And now facing a guy who throws a ton of punches.

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 07 Oct 2014, 21:54
by JCS
Sam Soliman 160, Jermain Taylor 159.8

Andre Dirrell 169, Nick Brinson 168.8

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 07 Oct 2014, 22:03
by Perseus
SenorPipino wrote:Current odds have the shopworn, physically-damaged Taylor a 3-1 underdog.
If he takes quite a few head shots, expect the referee to quickly halt this bout sooner rather than later.
If the ref is quick to pull the plug on Jermain he won't face any criticism for it.
If the ref has any integrity at all he will stop it the first time Jermain blinks after getting hit.

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 07 Oct 2014, 22:15
by crusader
"Fuckk you. God bless you."

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Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 07 Oct 2014, 22:25
by Lackeos
diddy wrote:Taylor was getting outboxed by Arthur friggin Abraham and was way behind in his last real fight before being stopped. And that was 5 f'n yrs ago.
If you're trying to claim that Taylor was behind against Froch before getting stopped, then that is a false retelling of history.

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 07 Oct 2014, 22:43
by JCS
Taylor's face looks a bit skeletal there.

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 07 Oct 2014, 22:47
by diddy
Lackeos wrote:
diddy wrote:Taylor was getting outboxed by Arthur friggin Abraham and was way behind in his last real fight before being stopped. And that was 5 f'n yrs ago.
If you're trying to claim that Taylor was behind against Froch before getting stopped, then that is a false retelling of history.
Huh?

Taylor was clearly ahead against Froch. That Taylor was actually still a top shelf fighter. Froch seemed to ruin him. The Taylor that fought AA appeared shot.

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 07:38
by Cutman Scabbers
crusader wrote:"Fuckk you. God bless you."

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Covering all the bases

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 09:41
by crow
The look in Taylor's eyes is worrying.
Looks empty.

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 09:48
by handsofstone
I dont like the look of Taylor in that photo,he looks scary,i dont know if its weight drained or mental

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 09:55
by ikorolev
handsofstone wrote:I dont like the look of Taylor in that photo,he looks scary,i dont know if its weight drained or mental
... or he used part of his paycheck to buy weed :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 10:08
by crow
Medications like PROZAC can give you that look.

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 10:14
by jujigatame
handsofstone wrote:I dont like the look of Taylor in that photo,he looks scary,i dont know if its weight drained or mental
Agree, he looks ... off.

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 10:16
by handsofstone
jujigatame wrote:
handsofstone wrote:I dont like the look of Taylor in that photo,he looks scary,i dont know if its weight drained or mental
Agree, he looks ... off.
Maybe its because he doesnt have a full on goatee beard like he used to,that can make a man look weird at first

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 10:42
by SenorPipino
The eyes are zombie-like...he's gonna get his clock cleaned.

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 11:50
by SenorPipino
Some odds posted about 11 hours before tonight's Soliman-Taylor title scrap:

Soliman has climbed to a -350 favorite. Taylor backers can get +250.

In the proposition bets, Soliman is a solid -160 to win by decision and +400 to score a KO.
Taylor is also +400 to somehow score a KO, but a hefty +850 to win by decision.

The overs/unders is 9.5 rounds with the overs a very strong -500.
You can get +330 if you feel the bout will end earlier.

So all in all, the oddsmakers feel that Soliman will score a convincing decision or win by a late round stoppage.

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 12:04
by Impractical Poster
If I was a bettin man, I'd put some loot on JT at those odds.

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 12:10
by SenorPipino
Impractical Poster wrote:If I was a bettin man, I'd put some loot on JT at those odds.

Lucky you're not a bettin' man, then.

Is it true that if Taylor defies logic and wins the IBF title, he'll be "rewarded" with a unification bout with Golovkin?
That's enough reason for him to take a dive tonight.

Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor

Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 12:17
by ikorolev
SenorPipino wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:If I was a bettin man, I'd put some loot on JT at those odds.

Lucky you're not a bettin' man, then.

Is it true that if Taylor defies logic and wins the IBF title, he'll be "rewarded" with a unification bout with Golovkin?
That's enough reason for him to take a dive tonight.
He would actually be rewarded with a Quillin fight, as some sources are saying. If he is capable of beating Soliman, then a win against Quillin is a possibility too. I don't think he will beat Soliman though.