Re: Browne vs Welliver
Posted: 12 Nov 2014, 16:27
Lenny Cravats wrote:Well, he stayed on his feet.
He can't be knocked down. He's an immovable object.
He looked obese @ 238 vs. Sherman Williams.
300?
Lenny Cravats wrote:Well, he stayed on his feet.
Kronkpride wrote:Congratulations to Lucas Browne. He stopped Welliver with his fists. Solis did not and Bronco Billy got the gift of a life time. Lucas damaged him and is the only person to ever legitimately stop Chauncy.
He's still never been down though. 405 rounds. And he is still the most gifted chin of this generation across all weight classes. And his climb to #5 in the world with the WBO and WBC is probably the biggest feat done in boxing this decade. He was not even the best boxer in his family. He never wanted to even be a boxer. And he was a side show for a long time before he got serious to make his run the best he could. And it culminated in what is the biggest results/talent ratio this decade. Nobody with less got further. His chin is the only world class tool he has. His power is very poor for HW. His speed is not all that. His technique is also not all that good. But his chin and heart is unmatched. And when it comes down to it he went as far as he could with what he had. A couple points in China derailed what could have been an ultra epic run but it still was rather epic. Nobody will ever forget him or his #1 fan in this world not also named Welliver. I am proud of him and everything he did. Team Welliver 4 Life.![]()
No excuses. The better man won. The more prepared man won. And hopefully Browne can keep on winning and give Australia the HW Champion they've been looking for.
As for Chauncy, heal up my brother and know that we will always back you up, whether you keep fighting or not. You are a hero of heroes, a champion of champions, and the iron chin of iron chins. 100% proud of everything you've done.
In fairness, what Kronk posted there is mostly true (with perhaps a bit of hyperbole added). Welliver isn't the most talented of the fighting Welliver brothers (the middle brother, Dewey, had the talent but none of the drive or dedication needed to truly be successful). Chauncy does have a very solid chin -- you certainly wouldn't expect a guy that looks like him to stand up to some of the shots he's able to withstand. And, Chauncy did an excellent job of marketing himself and working his way up the rankings. Chauncy understands how the ratings organizations work, so he made a point of going out and winning a lot of the regional belts. He was an oddity on the northwest and midwest circuits and took that show overseas to New Zealand where he continued to build himself up. Kronk is right that, given Chauncy's actual talent, it's impressive that he worked himself up to the position he was in and made a solid career for himself. He can certainly still go back to the South Pacific circuit and continue his career, but he really should commit to taking the weight off and keeping it off. Quite frankly, his constantly yo-yo of weight loss/gain is abysmal for his long-term health.GilFilmore wrote:Kronkpride wrote:Congratulations to Lucas Browne. He stopped Welliver with his fists. Solis did not and Bronco Billy got the gift of a life time. Lucas damaged him and is the only person to ever legitimately stop Chauncy.
He's still never been down though. 405 rounds. And he is still the most gifted chin of this generation across all weight classes. And his climb to #5 in the world with the WBO and WBC is probably the biggest feat done in boxing this decade. He was not even the best boxer in his family. He never wanted to even be a boxer. And he was a side show for a long time before he got serious to make his run the best he could. And it culminated in what is the biggest results/talent ratio this decade. Nobody with less got further. His chin is the only world class tool he has. His power is very poor for HW. His speed is not all that. His technique is also not all that good. But his chin and heart is unmatched. And when it comes down to it he went as far as he could with what he had. A couple points in China derailed what could have been an ultra epic run but it still was rather epic. Nobody will ever forget him or his #1 fan in this world not also named Welliver. I am proud of him and everything he did. Team Welliver 4 Life.![]()
No excuses. The better man won. The more prepared man won. And hopefully Browne can keep on winning and give Australia the HW Champion they've been looking for.
As for Chauncy, heal up my brother and know that we will always back you up, whether you keep fighting or not. You are a hero of heroes, a champion of champions, and the iron chin of iron chins. 100% proud of everything you've done.
By the way you sound, Welliver should be a 1st Ballot Hall Of Famer.
Pardon me if I am wrong, but was Welliver not the fat slob who did not win a round, kept leading with his head, used his hands more to pull up his shorts than to throw punches & was puffing like a grampus when it was over? What was Shonk Fried watching?Kronkpride wrote:I got a chance to watch it and my opinion has changed. You Aussie MF'rs are some con artist poo heads not reporting what really happened in this fight. Browne F'n cheated and won the only way he could....head butting and corruption. You bastards better beware...Revenge Of Welliver Is Coming For You! Oi! Oi! Oi!
Good first round by Welliver. He started real good against Odlanier Solis around this weight as well. Good round 2 out of Browne. He landed some flush shots that didn't seem as big as they were because of Welliver's sturdiness. Good round 3 but Browne took it. Welliver is very game and in it, but the extra weight has slowed him down in both hands and feet. It's a good contest but could be an even better contest if Welliver came in lighter.
At 11:45 you can here Browne's corner saying in that last round they say you head butted him???? If that eye was a head butt then it is a no contest at this point. 3 rounds in busted eye socket from head butt. They let him go on from there. If that was a butt and a serious injury it should have got stopped right here. The damn eye just swells from there when they both butted and the eye was an accidental foul. He wasn't busted up by punches.
Australian Robbery! Welliver deserves a rematch. The whole 4th round it is balooning and not from the punching. Welliver is still in it and giving it his all but that eye was busted in the 3rd. He would have stayed in there all night. This is a travesty. Welliver did not get his day in court. There were still witnesses set to testify.
BROWNE VS WELLIVER 2 MUST HAPPEN!
You damn cheats! Can't even shake Welliver and you have to rob him to win. We aint going out like that!![]()
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2n542a4kf0
Were you drunk when you watched it?Kronkpride wrote:Wrestlemania in Australia. Head Butt the champ and then use the chance to try and knock down the guy who has never went down even though he is fighting blind. They still can't knock out a blind Welliver. Can't take him when he is using one arm vs Bronco Billy. Now Lucas can't take him down while he's blind! Nobody else can accomplish these feats. Klitschko's quit in positions like that. Busted arm in the 3rd round now busted eye socket in the 3rd round....2 fraudulent men saying they beat him. I'm surprised they didn't hit him with a steel chair from behind when the announcement was made.
He's still never been in with an elite puncher. Yes, Browne is a hard puncher, but hardly elite.punchoutsb wrote:Not a surprising result at all for all but one person in the universe.
I'm really glad to see Chauncy didn't go down though. His chin is very good, even though he's never been in with an elite puncher until today to my knowledge. Glad to see him keep his staying up streak at 100%. That's two 100% unbroken streaks now; Welliver not going down and kronk being wrong about a big Welliver fight.
Kronkpride wrote:Congratulations to Lucas Browne. He stopped Welliver with his fists. Solis did not and Bronco Billy got the gift of a life time. Lucas damaged him and is the only person to ever legitimately stop Chauncy.
He's still never been down though. 405 rounds. And he is still the most gifted chin of this generation across all weight classes. And his climb to #5 in the world with the WBO and WBC is probably the biggest feat done in boxing this decade. He was not even the best boxer in his family. He never wanted to even be a boxer. And he was a side show for a long time before he got serious to make his run the best he could. And it culminated in what is the biggest results/talent ratio this decade. Nobody with less got further. His chin is the only world class tool he has. His power is very poor for HW. His speed is not all that. His technique is also not all that good. But his chin and heart is unmatched. And when it comes down to it he went as far as he could with what he had. A couple points in China derailed what could have been an ultra epic run but it still was rather epic. Nobody will ever forget him or his #1 fan in this world not also named Welliver. I am proud of him and everything he did. Team Welliver 4 Life.![]()
No excuses. The better man won. The more prepared man won. And hopefully Browne can keep on winning and give Australia the HW Champion they've been looking for.
As for Chauncy, heal up my brother and know that we will always back you up, whether you keep fighting or not. You are a hero of heroes, a champion of champions, and the iron chin of iron chins. 100% proud of everything you've done.
Kronkpride wrote:I posted congratulations before I got to see the fight. I trusted the Aussie punks in the thread had told the truth about what happened in the fight. Then I watched it and it was all BS! The Aussie's are more blind than Chauncy with a completely closed eye.
The 2 guys clashed heads and the cuts to both were from that clash. Browne got the least of the damage by quite a damn ways. Browne's corner even says they said you head butted him in the corner between the 3rd and 4th rounds. Welliver's eye balloons from there and it was not from punching. The butt fractured his eye socket. Then the clown arse announcers lie like crazy and say Browne's hands caused the damage.....not a bit. Browne couldn't even shake him when he got to tee off for 5 minutes on a blind fighter. The announcers say Chauncy doesn't want to be in there.....he can't even see what is going on in there in the 5th round at all. The whole thing was a biased joke.
They intentionally did not show the replays in the 3rd round where the head butt occurred. They also intentionally never commented on what Browne's corner said about the head butt. Browne's corner admits to being told ringside about the head butt so the knowledge is there all about it....they sweep it under the rug. Lie like some douchebags and make claims that things went on and are going on because Browne did the damage. He did the damage with his damn head. They would not even show how Browne got his cut or how Welliver got his......piss poor coverage. The reason they did not is because it was a head butt. No Contest at the end of the 3rd round is how any professionally ran bout would go. They robbed Welliver and then slandered him while hiding the truth.
Can you people not hear what is said at 11:45 in the Browne corner? Can you people not see the simultaneous cuts caused by the head butt commented on at 11:45 i the video? Can you not see that the TV crew made 0 effort to identify where the cuts came from? Can you not see that Welliver is as blind as can be in the 5th round. The only time Browne shows any separation in the fight is after the head butt and against a blinded opponent. They are going crazy for him like he did something except benefit from a clash of heads that should have stopped the bout after 3 rounds. If Browne's eye was the closed eye the bout would have been stopped and ruled a no contest...and they would have showed the butt happen. But Browne was the house fighter and everybody in the building went along with the fake arse story instead of telling and showing the truth. F You Aussies!
Kronkpride wrote:I posted congratulations before I got to see the fight. I trusted the Aussie punks in the thread had told the truth about what happened in the fight. Then I watched it and it was all BS! The Aussie's are more blind than Chauncy with a completely closed eye.
The 2 guys clashed heads and the cuts to both were from that clash. Browne got the least of the damage by quite a damn ways. Browne's corner even says they said you head butted him in the corner between the 3rd and 4th rounds. Welliver's eye balloons from there and it was not from punching. The butt fractured his eye socket. Then the clown arse announcers lie like crazy and say Browne's hands caused the damage.....not a bit. Browne couldn't even shake him when he got to tee off for 5 minutes on a blind fighter. The announcers say Chauncy doesn't want to be in there.....he can't even see what is going on in there in the 5th round at all. The whole thing was a biased joke.
They intentionally did not show the replays in the 3rd round where the head butt occurred. They also intentionally never commented on what Browne's corner said about the head butt. Browne's corner admits to being told ringside about the head butt so the knowledge is there all about it....they sweep it under the rug. Lie like some douchebags and make claims that things went on and are going on because Browne did the damage. He did the damage with his damn head. They would not even show how Browne got his cut or how Welliver got his......piss poor coverage. The reason they did not is because it was a head butt. No Contest at the end of the 3rd round is how any professionally ran bout would go. They robbed Welliver and then slandered him while hiding the truth.
Can you people not hear what is said at 11:45 in the Browne corner? Can you people not see the simultaneous cuts caused by the head butt commented on at 11:45 i the video? Can you not see that the TV crew made 0 effort to identify where the cuts came from? Can you not see that Welliver is as blind as can be in the 5th round. The only time Browne shows any separation in the fight is after the head butt and against a blinded opponent. They are going crazy for him like he did something except benefit from a clash of heads that should have stopped the bout after 3 rounds. If Browne's eye was the closed eye the bout would have been stopped and ruled a no contest...and they would have showed the butt happen. But Browne was the house fighter and everybody in the building went along with the fake arse story instead of telling and showing the truth. F You Aussies!
I recently discovered his youtube channel and realized that he's even more crazy than he seems, and you can absolutely take everything he says at face value, and he's definitely not trolling.GilFilmore wrote:Kronkpride has to be trolling