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Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 13:29
by expe
Rexob wrote:Not really stopped him boxing has it, I'd say he's safer fighting in Britain than in some dodgy other country that hasn't as many safety controls as the BBBC.
So we should let him risk his own health here, because of the safety controls the board has, in doing so breaking most of those safety rules. It isn't safe for Danny to fight anywhere, but unfortunately there are people out there who are willing to give him a license for their own financial gain, at the detriment of his short and long term health.
Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 13:32
by expe
Rexob wrote:dougie-boyjr wrote:Rexob wrote:Not really stopped him boxing has it, I'd say he's safer fighting in Britain than in some dodgy other country that hasn't as many safety controls as the BBBC.
@ rexob thts the point the bbbc wont let him fight because he isn't fit to hold a british boxing licence
Maybe but it's still his life to do with as he pleases IMO.
If he was about to jump off a bridge, would you say that and walk away, or try to talk him down, call the police or physically restrain him? Because that's what he's doing to himself, just in a slower, much more painful fashion.
Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 13:33
by littlepug
Rexob wrote:Thanks for the post mom.
No problem son if ya need putting straight any other boxing related matters just let me know

Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 13:34
by Rexob
littlepug wrote:Rexob wrote:Thanks for the post mom.
No problem son if ya need putting straight any other boxing related matters just let me know

xxxxx
Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 13:35
by Rexob
Maybe but it's still his life to do with as he pleases IMO.[/quote]
If he was about to jump off a bridge, would you say that and walk away, or try to talk him down, call the police or physically restrain him? Because that's what he's doing to himself, just in a slower, much more painful fashion.[/quote]
If he was about to jump of a bridge

WTF you going on about

Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 13:57
by handsofstone
Are people trying to claim Williams is fine because he isnt sustaining a lenghty beating?
Thats says more about his severe lack of punch resistence,he's almost certain to go over these days
I'd like to see the BBBoC and the Latvians write up their reasons why Danny is and isnt fit to box professionally,the whys and the why nots,just to compare and im like to hear the Latvians give their reasons
Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 14:03
by littlepug
handsofstone wrote:Are people trying to claim Williams is fine because he isnt sustaining a lenghty beating?
Thats says more about his severe lack of punch resistence,he's almost certain to go over these days
I'd like to see the BBBoC and the Latvians write up their reasons why Danny is and isnt fit to box professionally,the whys and the why nots,just to compare and im like to hear the Latvians give their reasons
Probably same view as rexnob freedom of choice despite the dangers
Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 14:11
by dougie-boyjr
Its terrible as soon as hez clipped hez on his arse there's a hall of famer ad take away there licence roy jones jnr nvr mind a former British domestic at bst fighter aurdley harrison is another guy who needs his licence took off him to
Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 14:15
by expe
Rexob wrote:
If he was about to jump of a bridge

WTF you going on about

If Danny, or anyone else for that matter, was about to commit suicide, would you just walk past and say 'it's his life to do with as he pleases'?
Danny Williams, without knowing it, is slowly committing suicide by carrying on fighting, he probably won't die in the ring, but he will take years, possibly decades off his life and certainly won't be able to live in good health, all for a few quid. But that's ok with you, as you have no compassion towards another human being.
Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 14:20
by dougie-boyjr
expe wrote:Rexob wrote:
If he was about to jump of a bridge

WTF you going on about

If Danny, or anyone else for that matter, was about to commit suicide, would you just walk past and say 'it's his life to do with as he pleases'?
Danny Williams, without knowing it, is slowly committing suicide by carrying on fighting, he probably won't die in the ring, but he will take years, possibly decades off his life and certainly won't be able to live in good health, all for a few quid. But that's ok with you, as you have no compassion towards another human being.
Well said
Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 14:22
by Rexob
dougie-boyjr wrote:expe wrote:Rexob wrote:
If he was about to jump of a bridge

WTF you going on about

If Danny, or anyone else for that matter, was about to commit suicide, would you just walk past and say 'it's his life to do with as he pleases'?
Danny Williams, without knowing it, is slowly committing suicide by carrying on fighting, he probably won't die in the ring, but he will take years, possibly decades off his life and certainly won't be able to live in good health, all for a few quid. But that's ok with you, as you have no compassion towards another human being.
Well said
What gives you the right to tell anyone what to do?
Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 14:23
by Rexob
It's up to him the end of the day.
Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 14:31
by littlepug
Not telling anyone what to do just looking out for someone's best interest, call it an act of compassion for a fellow human being.
Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 14:38
by lefty
There is a very good argument for whilst he's probably fighting on to pay for his childrens education and killing himself in the process basically which whilst very selfless, it's not a good thing. Whats the point in his kids having an amazing education but in the process having a near on possibly brain dead dad and knowing that they are when they are in life (in the future) because of him continuining to fight on and thus that their education and place in life came at the cost of their dad dying young or possibly being in a near on vegetative state. Cant imagine that would feel nice for them.
Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 14:39
by Rexob
No probably not.
Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 14:59
by dougie-boyjr
Rexob go on to youtube watch danny Williams vs del boy chisora in 2009 he was done then think how he'll be now when its nearly 2015 enuff said
Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 15:44
by Mimmy
dougie-boyjr wrote:He doesn't get badly beating you having a laugh he has no punch resistant as soon as someone clips him hez koed out an I think tht getting koed out mostly every time he fights is doing terrible damage to his brain
He hasnt been knocked out as far as i know
Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 15:46
by Mimmy
expe wrote:mimmy123 wrote:While I agree Danny should be banned from boxing for his own good, he hasnt had the poo kicked out of him in any losses. That is most likely the reason he carries on. I'm sure when he gets that wake up call and someone does give him an ideing he may well look at himself and jack it in. Hopefully that last ideing wont permanently damage him.
By my count, just based on the knockdowns listed on his boxrec record, he's been dropped 22 times and stopped 12 times, when you add in the knockdowns that aren't listed, he's probably been down 30 odd times in his career. Vitali Klitschko gave him a right pasting, Sinal Sam had him down 3 times, Chisora, who's no puncher, ran through him in 2 rounds. You can see the effects on Danny when he's in the ring, he can't take a punch anymore and he can barely throw one of his own, sadly I think the damage has been done at this stage.
I understand what you are saying but he hasnt been knocked out ala Morrison v Mercer style
Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 15:49
by stujones
At the end of the day it is his life, I do wonder how much the last 5 years (since Chisora) has taken out of him neurologically because at the moment he gets stopped by a decent jab these days.
Danny's chin is so bad these days, that I watched his last fight and even started to wonder if he starting to "take a dive". Why do even european promoters use him.... NO FIGHTER can learn anything now fighting Danny.
His body language isn't great either, doesn't look even look down when he loses in embarrassing fashion. Is he looking for easy way out these days?
Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 15:56
by Mimmy
Rexob wrote:It's up to him the end of the day.
TBH he is right in what he says. Only the courts can stop him, if there is any issue, he should be sectioned for his own good. We live in a world of freedom unless you live in North Korea and get shot for watching the simpsons. No one has the right to stop people from living their lives. There are more issues in the world than Danny Williams boxing.
We cannot stop the Syrians cutting heads off, we cannot stop heroine addicts taking drugs, we cannot stop homosexuality we cannot stop people jumping off bridges.
While its sad that Danny is boxing on we (as individuals) do not have the righ tto stop him. Why isnt his wife or children telling him to stop?
Why is Danny fighting on as he does?
Im sorry, but while I do not think he should be fighting on its not our decision that he does. If the BBBoC cannot stop him and they are the ones in the UK that says Yay or Nah then we cant stop him either. If he does himself damage he cannot blame anyone except himself.
Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 16:08
by Rexob
mimmy123 wrote:Rexob wrote:It's up to him the end of the day.
TBH he is right in what he says. Only the courts can stop him, if there is any issue, he should be sectioned for his own good. We live in a world of freedom unless you live in North Korea and get shot for watching the simpsons. No one has the right to stop people from living their lives. There are more issues in the world than Danny Williams boxing.
We cannot stop the Syrians cutting heads off, we cannot stop heroine addicts taking drugs, we cannot stop homosexuality we cannot stop people jumping off bridges.
While its sad that Danny is boxing on we (as individuals) do not have the righ tto stop him. Why isnt his wife or children telling him to stop?
Why is Danny fighting on as he does?
Im sorry, but while I do not think he should be fighting on its not our decision that he does. If the BBBoC cannot stop him and they are the ones in the UK that says Yay or Nah then we cant stop him either. If he does himself damage he cannot blame anyone except himself.
Spot on

Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 16:08
by littlepug
Danny will probably box on for as long as he's allowed but he's not the first by a long shot and certainly won't be the last its just strange that we will be there watching his demise as its happening, we have the choice not to watch but we always will

Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 16:14
by JimJim2009
It would be interesting to know the net amount of cash that ends up in Danny's back pocket after these sort of fights, after travel expenses etc. five hundred quid ? A grand ?
It won't be long before a debutant beats him.
The horrible, tragic demise of Greg page comes to mind.
Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 16:23
by Mimmy
In a nut shell.
All smokers here who have replied.
'you are killing yourselves, Mimmy has instructed you to stop now'
End of!
Re: danny Williams should be banned
Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 16:23
by Mimmy
JimJim2009 wrote:It would be interesting to know the net amount of cash that ends up in Danny's back pocket after these sort of fights, after travel expenses etc. five hundred quid ? A grand ?
It won't be long before a debutant beats him.
The horrible, tragic demise of Greg page comes to mind.
A debutant has already done so 3 fights ago