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Re: Wage comparisons

Posted: 07 Nov 2014, 13:28
by Black Sam Bellamy
I think there's a bit of a myth in circulation at the moment - sign with Matchroom and you'll get more fights.

Re: Wage comparisons

Posted: 07 Nov 2014, 14:00
by Parson Cross
He's under pressure mate that's for sure. Too many fighters not enough shows.

Re: Wage comparisons

Posted: 07 Nov 2014, 14:03
by lefty
Parson Cross wrote:He's under pressure mate that's for sure. Too many fighters not enough shows.
Shouldnt of he realised that when he signed all these fighters though.

Re: Wage comparisons

Posted: 07 Nov 2014, 14:10
by Parson Cross
The fighters signed with their eyes wide open mate.
Their problem.

Re: Wage comparisons

Posted: 07 Nov 2014, 14:12
by Parson Cross
That's where Fight Pass will help out for those striving to get there rather than those already there.
Good move by Dave Coldwell.

Re: Wage comparisons

Posted: 07 Nov 2014, 14:12
by lefty
Parson Cross wrote:The fighters signed with their eyes wide open mate.
Their problem.
Maybe some of them arent the sharpest tools in the box though lol. I guess it's the job of the manager's to deal with all that anyway.

Re: Wage comparisons

Posted: 07 Nov 2014, 15:40
by Jack B
Parson Cross wrote:Freddy,
Regular income is rarely used hence I raised a query in describing this thread as "wages comparison"
The elite got signing on fees, and then contracts with minimum purse figures often at different numbers when it got to titles ie British Commonwealth European World.
Usually contracts would specify a minimum number of fights per season - with the Promoter protected against matters out of his control - such as injury.
I will say this about Wazza though. He never hesitated to help any of his lads if they were in the doldrums and had issues (genuine) outside boxing.
Mitchell is a good example so when he jumped ship I thought that was gutless.
A quick question from an interested observer!

If a contract is signed with a minimum purse agreement of 30k, for example, would there ever be a scenario where the fighter's purse would be more than the minimum? And, if so, when would that occur and how could the boxer/manager negotiate up with the promoter when a contract has already been agreed? Basically, once a promoter signs a deal with a fighter that covers purse amounts, why would he ever raise the purses above the minimum?

Surely it would be in the fighters' interests to negotiate a proportion of the purse of the fight/income of the event so there is more flexibility if his demand grows?

Re: Wage comparisons

Posted: 07 Nov 2014, 15:47
by Parson Cross
The answer from my prospective is easy mate. The minimum figure is always set at an amount where you know it's the right price.
That's where a Manager earns his corn.
If the average purse for let's say a LM for a British title fight is £20k - set it at £25k.
Everything is negotiable.

Re: Wage comparisons

Posted: 07 Nov 2014, 15:49
by Parson Cross
Jack B
I would also add even the so called hottest prospects fall by the wayside from time to time.
You say if his demand grows - I ask what if it falls ?

Re: Wage comparisons

Posted: 07 Nov 2014, 16:05
by Jack B
Thanks mate good insight!

Re: Wage comparisons

Posted: 07 Nov 2014, 17:23
by freddydoesdallas
Parson Cross wrote:Freddy,
Regular income is rarely used hence I raised a query in describing this thread as "wages comparison"
The elite got signing on fees, and then contracts with minimum purse figures often at different numbers when it got to titles ie British Commonwealth European World.
Usually contracts would specify a minimum number of fights per season - with the Promoter protected against matters out of his control - such as injury.
I will say this about Wazza though. He never hesitated to help any of his lads if they were in the doldrums and had issues (genuine) outside boxing.
Mitchell is a good example so when he jumped ship I thought that was gutless.
Cheers for the information

Re: Wage comparisons

Posted: 07 Nov 2014, 20:14
by magwitch
righthook wrote:
Parson Cross wrote:Righthook,
Please don't use the word wages. Fighters do not get wages. Wages means regular income paid weekly / monthly.
Didn't realise wages would wind u up so much :lol: il say purse if that makes u feel better :roll:
:lol: :lol:

sorry, I enjoyed that :D

Re: Wage comparisons

Posted: 08 Nov 2014, 09:44
by MarkMcBurney
Parson Cross wrote:That's where Fight Pass will help out for those striving to get there rather than those already there.
Good move by Dave Coldwell.
Yes and no, personally I'm not a Fight Pass subscriber but I did used to watch Dave's shows online, I imagine there are a few similar. Ultimately it's better financially for him though I guess.

Re: Wage comparisons

Posted: 08 Nov 2014, 10:29
by Parson Cross
Not just about finances
Chances for his own lads to get a chance on Matchroom shows as well if they impress.