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Re: Heavyweights: George Foreman vs Vitaly Klitschko

Posted: 06 Apr 2018, 04:43
by HomicideHenry
hhaehre wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 03:13
tennessee wrote: 05 Apr 2018, 08:54 Sadly Vitaly could probably have beaten any fighter in history. His mental fortitude and ring savvy could carry the day against anyone.
Still he didn't now did he? Lost to the two best guys he fought and is imo one of the most overrated hw of all time. As for Foreman, I believe Vitali would have lost to the 70' version and beaten the 90's version.
In the words of the fictional Apollo Creed, concerning Vitali's losses to Byrd and Lewis: "Man I won but I didn't beat him!"

Re: Heavyweights: George Foreman vs Vitaly Klitschko

Posted: 06 Apr 2018, 06:20
by hhaehre
HomicideHenry wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 04:43
hhaehre wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 03:13
tennessee wrote: 05 Apr 2018, 08:54 Sadly Vitaly could probably have beaten any fighter in history. His mental fortitude and ring savvy could carry the day against anyone.
Still he didn't now did he? Lost to the two best guys he fought and is imo one of the most overrated hw of all time. As for Foreman, I believe Vitali would have lost to the 70' version and beaten the 90's version.
In the words of the fictional Apollo Creed, concerning Vitali's losses to Byrd and Lewis: "Man I won but I didn't beat him!"
Or in the word of Vitali's face after the Lewis fight: "Man I lost and got beaten, now someone please put my eye back into it's socket"

Re: Heavyweights: George Foreman vs Vitaly Klitschko

Posted: 06 Apr 2018, 07:48
by HomicideHenry
hhaehre wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 06:20
HomicideHenry wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 04:43
hhaehre wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 03:13 Still he didn't now did he? Lost to the two best guys he fought and is imo one of the most overrated hw of all time. As for Foreman, I believe Vitali would have lost to the 70' version and beaten the 90's version.
In the words of the fictional Apollo Creed, concerning Vitali's losses to Byrd and Lewis: "Man I won but I didn't beat him!"
Or in the word of Vitali's face after the Lewis fight: "Man I lost and got beaten, now someone please put my eye back into it's socket"
Revisionist history at it's worst, the first words out of Vitali's mouth was: "No! No! No!" and "Rematch!", and Lewis wanted no part of that.

Re: Heavyweights: George Foreman vs Vitaly Klitschko

Posted: 06 Apr 2018, 09:20
by hhaehre
HomicideHenry wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 07:48
hhaehre wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 06:20
HomicideHenry wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 04:43

In the words of the fictional Apollo Creed, concerning Vitali's losses to Byrd and Lewis: "Man I won but I didn't beat him!"
Or in the word of Vitali's face after the Lewis fight: "Man I lost and got beaten, now someone please put my eye back into it's socket"
Revisionist history at it's worst, the first words out of Vitali's mouth was: "No! No! No!" and "Rematch!", and Lewis wanted no part of that.
That was just his brain talking through his mouth, but his face was in total disagreement. :D

Re: Heavyweights: George Foreman vs Vitaly Klitschko

Posted: 06 Apr 2018, 13:33
by Kalan
The only reason Vitali was cut is because Lewis fouled himhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtdOteT5G0Q

A thumb strike... followed by an illegal head grab... followed by rubbing his head and hair into Viali's cut... followed by holding-n-hitting... and the holding-n-hitting was a palm rake which is also illegal.... 5 fouls in a few seconds.

Because of the above fouls Vitali was half blinded by cuts from early in the 3rd round... He still would have been an easy UNANIMOUS TECHNICAL DECISION WINNER if the fight went to the scorecards like it should have.

Re: Heavyweights: George Foreman vs Vitaly Klitschko

Posted: 06 Apr 2018, 14:29
by DrDuke
Kalan wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 13:33 The only reason Vitali was cut is because Lewis fouled himhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtdOteT5G0Q

A thumb strike... followed by an illegal head grab... followed by rubbing his head and hair into Viali's cut... followed by holding-n-hitting... and the holding-n-hitting was a palm rake which is also illegal.... 5 fouls in a few seconds.

Because of the above fouls Vitali was half blinded by cuts from early in the 3rd round... He still would have been an easy UNANIMOUS TECHNICAL DECISION WINNER if the fight went to the scorecards like it should have.
Revisionist history at it's worst #2. :lol:

Re: Heavyweights: George Foreman vs Vitaly Klitschko

Posted: 06 Apr 2018, 15:14
by Kalan
DrDuke wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 14:29
Kalan wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 13:33 The only reason Vitali was cut is because Lewis fouled himhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtdOteT5G0Q

A thumb strike... followed by an illegal head grab... followed by rubbing his head and hair into Viali's cut... followed by holding-n-hitting... and the holding-n-hitting was a palm rake which is also illegal.... 5 fouls in a few seconds.

Because of the above fouls Vitali was half blinded by cuts from early in the 3rd round... He still would have been an easy UNANIMOUS TECHNICAL DECISION WINNER if the fight went to the scorecards like it should have.
Revisionist history at it's worst #2. :lol:
You have to watch it with an unbiased mind... Which you don't have... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Heavyweights: George Foreman vs Vitaly Klitschko

Posted: 06 Apr 2018, 15:35
by DrDuke
Kalan wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 15:14
DrDuke wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 14:29
Kalan wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 13:33 The only reason Vitali was cut is because Lewis fouled himhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtdOteT5G0Q

A thumb strike... followed by an illegal head grab... followed by rubbing his head and hair into Viali's cut... followed by holding-n-hitting... and the holding-n-hitting was a palm rake which is also illegal.... 5 fouls in a few seconds.

Because of the above fouls Vitali was half blinded by cuts from early in the 3rd round... He still would have been an easy UNANIMOUS TECHNICAL DECISION WINNER if the fight went to the scorecards like it should have.
Revisionist history at it's worst #2. :lol:
You have to watch it with an unbiased mind... Which you don't have... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
And you try to watch it with eyes, not with smth else.

Re: Heavyweights: George Foreman vs Vitaly Klitschko

Posted: 06 Apr 2018, 18:25
by Cojimar 1946
I agree with golden oldie, Vitali probably takes this. His high work rate would help.

Re: Heavyweights: George Foreman vs Vitaly Klitschko

Posted: 06 Apr 2018, 18:43
by Kalan
golden oldie wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 16:00
Kalan wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 15:14
DrDuke wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 14:29

Revisionist history at it's worst #2. :lol:
You have to watch it with an unbiased mind... Which you don't have... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
YET AGAIN, WILL YOU EVER ACCEPT THAT VITALI HIMSELF, HAS NEVER CLAIMED ALL THIS NONSENSICAL BULLSH'IT YOY CLAIM?

THEREFORE THE ONLY RELEVANT QUESTION CAN POSSIBLY BE, WHO KNOWS MORE ABOUT WHAT OCCURRED IN A FIGHT BETWEEN ,VITALI KLITSCHKO / LENNOX LEWIS, BOTH OF THEM, OR AN IDIOT LIKE YOU?
You're the idiot around here A-hole... Vitali says Lewis opened the cut with his head....which you plainly see on the video.

If you watch the whole thing you'll see the headwork... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtdOteT5G0Q

Re: Heavyweights: George Foreman vs Vitaly Klitschko

Posted: 06 Apr 2018, 18:50
by oogiebe
Kalan wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 18:43
golden oldie wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 16:00
Kalan wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 15:14

You have to watch it with an unbiased mind... Which you don't have... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
YET AGAIN, WILL YOU EVER ACCEPT THAT VITALI HIMSELF, HAS NEVER CLAIMED ALL THIS NONSENSICAL BULLSH'IT YOY CLAIM?

THEREFORE THE ONLY RELEVANT QUESTION CAN POSSIBLY BE, WHO KNOWS MORE ABOUT WHAT OCCURRED IN A FIGHT BETWEEN ,VITALI KLITSCHKO / LENNOX LEWIS, BOTH OF THEM, OR AN IDIOT LIKE YOU?
You're the idiot around here A-hole... Vitali says Lewis opened the cut with his head....which you plainly see on the video.
A right hand opened the cut on Vitali in the third round. The fight was a tough one as Lewis was the heaviest of his career as he was training for Kurt Johnson, whom Lewis would have walked through. To change up and replace Johnson with Klitchko is quite the adjustment wouldn't you say? Especially with two weeks to fight date. I'm sure Lewis would've trained much harder if Klitchko was the original challenger. Ref had fight even after six. Lewis was coming on at the end and would've stopped Vitali eventually, IMO.

Re: Heavyweights: George Foreman vs Vitaly Klitschko

Posted: 06 Apr 2018, 19:39
by oogiebe
golden oldie wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 19:36
Kalan wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 18:43
golden oldie wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 16:00

YET AGAIN, WILL YOU EVER ACCEPT THAT VITALI HIMSELF, HAS NEVER CLAIMED ALL THIS NONSENSICAL BULLSH'IT YOY CLAIM?

THEREFORE THE ONLY RELEVANT QUESTION CAN POSSIBLY BE, WHO KNOWS MORE ABOUT WHAT OCCURRED IN A FIGHT BETWEEN ,VITALI KLITSCHKO / LENNOX LEWIS, BOTH OF THEM, OR AN IDIOT LIKE YOU?
You're the idiot around here A-hole... Vitali says Lewis opened the cut with his head....which you plainly see on the video.

If you watch the whole thing you'll see the headwork... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtdOteT5G0Q
You really are subhuman verminous filth aren't you?

For months you have been harping on about such moronic, retarded, garbage such as this.



A thumb strike.... followed by holding-n-hitting... and the holding-n-hitting was a palm rake which is also illegal...


NOW in the face of OVERWHELMING evidence to the contrary, you are claiming Lewis HEAD BUTTED Vitali, because the moronic SPORTS SCIENCE doctor, notice NOT a medical doctor,claimed as such.

His claim was proven to be NOTHING more than sour grapes, at losing, and yours get more pathetic by the day.

FOR THE LAST TIME, EVEN THE STUPID VITALI HAS NEVER CLAIMED LEWIS HIT HIM WITH HIS THUMB, OR SLASHED / RAKED HIS EYE WITH HIS GLOVE. NEVER, EVER, EVER.

WHAT HE RIDICULOUSLY CLAIMED WAS THAT LENNOX HEAD BUTTED HIM. THIS MORONIC THEORY WAS SHOWN TO BE FALSE, SO VITALI WISELY SHUT HIS MOUTH. PERHAPS YOU SHOULD LEARN TO DO THE SAME.

WHAT THE STUPID UKRANIAN FOOL DID DO ( TO TRY TO SAVE FACE ) WAS HARP ON AND ON ABOUT A SUPPOSED REMATCH. IF YOU ARE THAT DESPERATE TO HATE ON LEWIS, JUMP ON THAT BANDWAGON. MEANWHILE STOP MAKING YOURSELF LOOK A BIGGER FUKKING IDIOT THAN YOU ALREADY ARE BY INVENTING FOULS THAT ONLY EXIST IN YOUR FEEBLE IMAGINATION.
...you seem angry...lol!

Re: Heavyweights: George Foreman vs Vitaly Klitschko

Posted: 06 Apr 2018, 21:33
by Kalan
Right... But it wasn't a LEGAL right hand that caused the initial nick... It was a thumb strike delivered with the right.

Don't be a deliberate idiot... The 5 fouls Lewis committed are as plain as day on the video I posted.... Anybody who doesn't see them doesn't want to see them or is as blind as a fkking bat.... 1. Thumb strike... 2. Illegal head grab... 3. grinding head and hair into the cut... 4. holding-n-hitting... 5. with a palm rake... Lewis also palmed Vitali at other times during the fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtdOteT5G0Q