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Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2014
Posted: 06 Dec 2014, 11:17
by Baboon
Jamie Sanigar wrote:palooka wrote:I don't think baboon was being critical about Lee showing loyalty, Jamie; more the stupidity and the crassness of the situation.
On reflection reading Baboon's next post I see what you mean.
It's been very frustrating with Haskins especially with the other British bantams getting their chance at world titles. Unfortunately boxing involves so much politics it's frustrating when a fighter like Haskins gets overlooked because he's viewed as "too good" "too risky" to defend their world title against. Hopefully he will get his shot in 2015, one things for sure we are trying our best!
Aye Jamie, palooka has nailed it. Sorry if it came across as critical of Lee for showing loyaly, that wasn't the intention. I just think it's a shame that the politics of the sport have effectively denied him the opportunity to take on the guys who he has already beaten for their World Titles.
Cracking fighter, I'm a fan, good luck with hunting down the WT shot
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2014
Posted: 06 Dec 2014, 11:23
by Switch hitter
Horse wrote:Switch hitter wrote:Jamie Mc should be no 10 the rest pretty good.....
His recent opposition hasn't been good enough.
And Scott Quigg and Martin Murrays has been ?
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2014
Posted: 06 Dec 2014, 11:29
by Jamie Sanigar
Baboon wrote:Jamie Sanigar wrote:palooka wrote:I don't think baboon was being critical about Lee showing loyalty, Jamie; more the stupidity and the crassness of the situation.
On reflection reading Baboon's next post I see what you mean.
It's been very frustrating with Haskins especially with the other British bantams getting their chance at world titles. Unfortunately boxing involves so much politics it's frustrating when a fighter like Haskins gets overlooked because he's viewed as "too good" "too risky" to defend their world title against. Hopefully he will get his shot in 2015, one things for sure we are trying our best!
Aye Jamie, palooka has nailed it. Sorry if it came across as critical of Lee for showing loyaly, that wasn't the intention. I just think it's a shame that the politics of the sport have effectively denied him the opportunity to take on the guys who he has already beaten for their World Titles.
Cracking fighter, I'm a fan, good luck with hunting down the WT shot
Yes it is a shame but we can't sit and sulk we will keep fighting and doing our best possible to get him that shot. Thanks for the support!
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2014
Posted: 06 Dec 2014, 11:48
by palooka
It's good to see you posting Jamie I bet your dad had a headache after last Saturday in Jnr's corner.
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2014
Posted: 06 Dec 2014, 13:36
by Jamie Sanigar
Ha he certainly did not have a sore throat for talking to much.
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2014
Posted: 06 Dec 2014, 13:40
by palooka
He must have the patience of a saint.
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2014
Posted: 15 Dec 2014, 10:30
by slapbangwhallop
Bit of a joke that Andy Lee wasn’t anywhere even near your Top 30 in the first place. I wonder how conservative you will go after hes just knocked out the unbeaten Korobov to win a world title!
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2014
Posted: 15 Dec 2014, 10:58
by Horse
Ian1973 wrote:Horse, this list is good.
Ian1973 wrote:Personally I'd have Selby above Afolabi and Quigg above Murray. There is the odd other changes I'd make lower down the rankings (eg Galahad is too low) but overall not bad at all.
Selby is a talented fighter and I won't be surprised if he wins a world title next year, but I currently think Afolabi deserves to be ahead of him due to his proven ability at world level. Hopefully they both win world titles next year.
Murray's far more proven than Quigg, although he hasn't done much over the last 18 months. If Murray loses uncompetitively against Golovkin then he'll probably drop below Quigg.
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2014
Posted: 15 Dec 2014, 11:00
by Horse
Jamie Sanigar wrote:I think you need to understand the boxing business before making comments like this?! We manage Lee Haskins and have to promote him to ensure he stays busy and manoeuvre him into bigger fights. He is now set to box on undercard of Golovkin v Murray in Monaco 21st Feb for European Title against Omar Lamiri live on channel 5
We would negotiate deals with bigger promoters just like we have with Lee Selby whom we also manage but Hearn has McDonnell and won't risk him against Haskins. Warren likewise has Paul Butler.
When you start to criticise a boxer for being loyal to their manager that's looked after him since he was 13 years of age the mind boggles!
I'm proud we have two boxers in Selby and Haskins in the top 20! Roll on 2015.
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2014
Posted: 15 Dec 2014, 11:03
by Horse
Switch hitter wrote:And Scott Quigg and Martin Murrays has been ?
Quigg's recent opposition has been better than McDonnell's. Murray's been dropping down the rankings recently because of his poor opposition.
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2014
Posted: 15 Dec 2014, 11:09
by Horse
slapbangwhallop wrote:Bit of a joke that Andy Lee wasn’t anywhere even near your Top 30 in the first place. I wonder how conservative you will go after hes just knocked out the unbeaten Korobov to win a world title!
Lee didn't deserve a place until his recent win, he was fairly close to a place though. I'm not sure why you assume he wasn't.
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2014
Posted: 15 Dec 2014, 19:21
by slapbangwhallop
Horse wrote:slapbangwhallop wrote:Bit of a joke that Andy Lee wasn’t anywhere even near your Top 30 in the first place. I wonder how conservative you will go after hes just knocked out the unbeaten Korobov to win a world title!
Lee didn't deserve a place until his recent win, he was fairly close to a place though. I'm not sure why you assume he wasn't.
He didn't did he not? Really? You haven't seen any of his career then I guess.
Well if he hasn't then that win on the weekend just makes a mockery of your rankings because there's no way you can have jumping from nowhere to at least #5 in the space of just one fight. Nice consistency.
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2014
Posted: 15 Dec 2014, 19:35
by Boxerbeetle
slapbangwhallop wrote:Horse wrote:slapbangwhallop wrote:Bit of a joke that Andy Lee wasn’t anywhere even near your Top 30 in the first place. I wonder how conservative you will go after hes just knocked out the unbeaten Korobov to win a world title!
Lee didn't deserve a place until his recent win, he was fairly close to a place though. I'm not sure why you assume he wasn't.
He didn't did he not? Really? You haven't seen any of his career then I guess.
Well if he hasn't then that win on the weekend just makes a mockery of your rankings because there's no way you can have jumping from nowhere to at least #5 in the space of just one fight. Nice consistency.
You're saying Andy Lee is now in the top 5 P4P British boxers? Not sure if serious?
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2014
Posted: 15 Dec 2014, 19:43
by Horse
slapbangwhallop wrote:He didn't did he not? Really? You haven't seen any of his career then I guess.
Well if he hasn't then that win on the weekend just makes a mockery of your rankings because there's no way you can have jumping from nowhere to at least #5 in the space of just one fight. Nice consistency.
What had Lee done recently that deserved a top 30 ranking? He could have sneaked in towards the bottom after beating Jackson, but I didn't think it was enough.
*Spoiler Alert* Lee won't be as high as No. 5 next month! *Spoiler Alert*