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crusader wrote:

ReggieDiggs wrote:

crusader wrote: Thus, I think the "oh wow, $__ for only half an hour, he's so lucky' type of lines are exceptionally misleading and depict a far more favorable situation for the boxer than is the case.

Of course he's lucky. There are plenty of guys who put in the same hours as he does, but are less talented, who make $5,000 a fight or less.

lol & I don't see how you don't connect the dots here. He gets paid to fight. He needs to practice to be good in his fights. Anyone in the entertainment field has a similar situation going on no question. Wayne Newton doesn't just sing when he goes on stage. He's practising all year round & doing things to make sure his voice is as good a shape as it can be in. Lebron ain't just playing basketball games on TV. And that goes all the way down to any in a competitive business...again without question. The guy who's not practicing is the guy who's not making as much money as he could or could even be getting put out of business.

He's fortunate that he's getting paid well, but I don't think he's anywhere near as fortunate as he would be if here were being paid the same amount for a 36 minute task not linked to boxing's restrictives economic conditions. With the way some people are wording it, you'd think he could lounge around before the fight, show up, take the money, and not face a damaging, possibly destructive, impact on his career. There are certainly other fighters who put in a lot of time, though I doubt most train like Kovalev, for much smaller rewards, but that doesn't make my points any less valid and if someone were to say' Wow! $5000 for 30 minutes" I'd also think that was generally quite misleading.

Your second paragraph doesn't really impact my argument either, because all you're really saying is that other people's earnings are impacted by their preparation, which is obviously true. My point is that the people who pursue these careers, especially those whose earnings depend on hours per day of preparation, incur great costs and have their economic opportunities limited outside the tasks they're paid for in ways that most people who get paid a standard salary don't. As I've said repeatedly, with someone like Kovalev his earnings are far more contingent on his time outside what he's paid for and he stands to lose a much greater proportion of his income if he doesn't spend a large amount of that time training, which is typically physically and mentally draining. Hence, 'wowowowo $__ for only 36 minutes' is exceptionally misleading in terms of how good of a position he's in.

ikorolev wrote: The guy is arguably in top 10 fighters in the whole boxing business (and was in top 20 before the fight), so he has to earn accordingly. There is no reason to compare him to mediocre boxers, mediocre engineers or people working at McDonalds.

ikorolev wrote:I suspect his manager is getting back more than he lended.

palooka wrote:Believe it or not with my personality at the multiple gyms I frequent I have the hot chicks throwing themselves at me at any given day...

Has everyone else missed this gem from bnovelist?

Badhusker wrote:

palooka wrote:Believe it or not with my personality at the multiple gyms I frequent I have the hot chicks throwing themselves at me at any given day...

Has everyone else missed this gem from bnovelist?

I was thinking the same thing, then figured most probably have him on ignore, lol.

He is beyond loony.....maybe he is in the loony bin, who knows.

Freedom2013 wrote:This doesn't seem fair, Kovalev should have made at least $1 million from HBO for a unification fight for 3 belts.

HBO paid Andre Ward $1.7 mill to face a fringe contender in his last fight.

Andre Berto used to make well over a million to face journeymen like Freddy Hernandez.

fergusg wrote:There’s one important figure missing from Kovalev’s figures… and that’s the percentage commission he receives from the profits received from the event

Lackeos wrote:and people wonder why Stevenson doesn't want to fight him for peanuts. When the purse isn't peanuts, I sense that the fight will be more likely to get made.

fergusg wrote:

ReggieDiggs wrote:

fergusg wrote:There’s one important figure missing from Kovalev’s figures… and that’s the percentage commission he receives from the profits received from the event

Commission? You mean some sort of points on the event itself? Like actors can get.

Whats his deal on the backend? I wasn't aware he had a backend deal let alone how much he'd get from such a deal.

Dan Rafael & Fight Hype both report that Sergey Kovalev received a cut from the event profits in addition to his fight purse.

fergusg wrote:

Mostel wrote:When did that loser Rafael stop blowing Stevenson long enough to report on anything? Rafael is a straight up pussy who can't deal with people questioning his oral sex sessions with Stevenson on Twitter because he'll block them right away.

It’s actually quite disturbing that I’ve bothered to respond to a facetious intellectually sub-normal disturbed individual like you, but if you’d read what I actually wrote, I never mentioned Adonis Stevenson’s name.

fergusg wrote:

ReggieDiggs wrote:

fergusg wrote:There’s one important figure missing from Kovalev’s figures… and that’s the percentage commission he receives from the profits received from the event

Commission? You mean some sort of points on the event itself? Like actors can get.

Whats his deal on the backend? I wasn't aware he had a backend deal let alone how much he'd get from such a deal.

Dan Rafael & Fight Hype both report that Sergey Kovalev received a cut from the event profits in addition to his fight purse.

bnovelist wrote:ALL I KNOW IS THAT KOVALEV'S NAME IS MENTIONED RIGHT UP WITH LIKES OF MAYWEATHER, PAC, COTTO, GGG, FROCH, WLAD, CANELO....

HE IS CLEARLY IN THIS ELITE CLASS THERE IS NO REASON FOR HIM TO TAKE HOME MEASLEY 125K PAYDAYS WTF?????

THIS IS BAD......

ikorolev wrote:The question is if Kovalev's family will be eating well in 20 years when most of people will forget who he was. An athlete or another professional of that level is supposed to be able to retire and not worry about feeding their families. You can't compare a person who is in top 10-20 in their profession with a regular Charlie.

ikorolev wrote:In order to buy properties or invest otherwise, you need to have money which Sergey doesn't. He doesn't even have enough to buy an average house.