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Cap wrote:Obviously a noted member of the elite educated class in Amerika.

diddy wrote:He's a heavyweight and black and american so he can't be any good. Right, idiots?

Friggin thick headed Europeans.

It really chaps their asses that a black american will rule the division when Wlad retires.

Butterbean wrote:Shouldnt diddy just be expelled from here, due to claiming that half the posters are racists... Youre an idiot dude. And you keep claiming it. Dont think you find many racists in this sport.

davie wrote:Am i imagining this conversation?
Has diddy just gone from an OP accusing people of racism against black to basically saying shooting blacks is OK, they're just gang members and losers, in the space of 3 pages?

Lackeos wrote:

davie wrote:Am i imagining this conversation?
Has diddy just gone from an OP accusing people of racism against black to basically saying shooting blacks is OK, they're just gang members and losers, in the space of 3 pages?

I was thinking the same thing. He's pretty much all over the map. He's pretty much said America is racist, America isn't racist, racism against Blacks is okay, racism against Blacks isn't okay. My head is spinning trying to keep up. He's basically just covering all of the trolling bases. At first you'd think he'd be happy that his guy won, but it actually seems like he's lost his mind as a result of his guy winning.

diddy wrote:

Lackeos wrote:

davie wrote:Am i imagining this conversation?
Has diddy just gone from an OP accusing people of racism against black to basically saying shooting blacks is OK, they're just gang members and losers, in the space of 3 pages?

I was thinking the same thing. He's pretty much all over the map. He's pretty much said America is racist, America isn't racist, racism against Blacks is okay, racism against Blacks isn't okay. My head is spinning trying to keep up. He's basically just covering all of the trolling bases. At first you'd think he'd be happy that his guy won, but it actually seems like he's lost his mind as a result of his guy winning.

When did I say racism was ok? The problem is people like you only swallow up what the media feeds you - ignorant to fact that the media only feeds you what sells best for them. It's racism toward blacks when a white cop shoots a black guy who happens to also be a felon who was attacking him in his car? Typical ignorance. Don't start none won't be none.

I call a spade a spade when warranted.

Badhusker wrote:

Blodhemn wrote:World champion? Stiverne was gifted a vacant belt against a guy he previously beat.

I get your point, but it's not Stiverne's fault he beat who they said he had to beat to get the title. Its not like he avoided anyone to get there. Wasn't he in line to fight Vitali for a year or two? My point is, I was just saying he was the world champ, and is definitely better than just an average fighter. Whether he was worthy of the title or not is an opinion. There are vacant titles all the time that are "gifted" to undeserving guys I guess.

diddy wrote:

Butterbean wrote:Shouldnt diddy just be expelled from here, due to claiming that half the posters are racists... Youre an idiot dude. And you keep claiming it. Dont think you find many racists in this sport.

Yeah I'm an idiot? Says the guy who doesn't know the difference between "your"
and "you're". Probably will reply you "could care less" about grammar.

Lackeos wrote:

davie wrote:Am i imagining this conversation?
Has diddy just gone from an OP accusing people of racism against black to basically saying shooting blacks is OK, they're just gang members and losers, in the space of 3 pages?

I was thinking the same thing. He's pretty much all over the map. He's pretty much said America is racist, America isn't racist, racism against Blacks is okay, racism against Blacks isn't okay. My head is spinning trying to keep up. He's basically just covering all of the trolling bases. At first you'd think he'd be happy that his guy won, but it actually seems like he's lost his mind as a result of his guy winning.

diddy wrote:The president of the United States...is a black man. Have you seen his policies? Apparently not. Apparently it is still 1940 in America according to you. Who knew?

KBB wrote:

diddy wrote:The president of the United States...is a black man. Have you seen his policies? Apparently not. Apparently it is still 1940 in America according to you. Who knew?

Uh, he's white also. So how does one come up with that he's somehow more "black" than he is white? Must be that old bigoted/racists
"One Drop Rule"!

I always find it amazing that people just bypass the fact that Obama is just as much white as he is black but somehow he isn't identified as just being The President, no, he has to be The BLACK President.

Just like when there is a police officer, doctor, lawyer, fireman and he happens to be African American/Black persuasion, he's not just simple a police officer, doctor, lawyer, fireman he's the Black Police Officer, Black Doctor, Black Lawyer, Black Fireman.

Racism makes sure it keeps people divided by labeling and adding on titles that depict race as part of the equation when it shouldn't be.

Butterbean wrote:

diddy wrote:

Butterbean wrote:Shouldnt diddy just be expelled from here, due to claiming that half the posters are racists... Youre an idiot dude. And you keep claiming it. Dont think you find many racists in this sport.

Yeah I'm an idiot? Says the guy who doesn't know the difference between "your"
and "you're". Probably will reply you "could care less" about grammar.

So instead of answering the written, you go call me an idiot because i forgot an '... , in a language i dont use very often. Aren't you ashamed by your own behavior ?

crusader wrote:Cheppa-The only HWs I rank above him now are 6'6" Wlad, 6'9" Fury, and 6'2" Povetkin, the latter of whom I believe is better than Stiverne.

He should've gotten a shot at Vitali if Vitali cared less about the situation in Ukraine, and everybody knows how that'd turn out. Stiverne would be called an undeserving bum after getting pummeled. He's very average and got rated solely from beating Arreola.

Yes, I doubt that there would be much praise for either Klitschko were they to decision Stiverne in a bout that many had 9-3/8-4. I think there would be ample talk of Stiverne being overweight though.

Chepppaaa wrote:

crusader wrote:It seems to me like today skepticism and reasonable criticism are often conflated with hating.

I was impressed by how he boxed in a disciplined manner for 12 rounds, but beating Stiverne--a good fighter but nonetheless an underdog whose best wins were a come from behind victory over Ray Austin and the pair of wins over Arreola--isn't enough for me to be confident that he'll ever rule the division. I think he's top 5 for sure though, and I'm looking forward to seeing him fight more good opponents of various styles and sizes.

sorry, but that stupid. if there was a ton of guys like tyson, holyfield or bowe today, than i also would truly be skeptical of wilder would rule the division as clear cut #1.

but as of todays heavyweight reality, there is little doubt that he is the future. him or jushua. top 5 is total bullcrap.

povetkin couldnt ko a cruiserweight and was almost losing, some say lost to a guy like huck, a guy wilder would in 2 rounds
stiverne was rated 4 at boxrec and was in most everybodys top 4 and he won like 2 rounds and basicly got chredded
glazkov, a guy who got a SD against scott
fat solis
jennings, who is flatfooted and by far not as powerful or athletic as wilder.....
slow, limited, unathletic pulev......

there is wlad, fury, wilder. wlad, i dont list him even as a boxer, because he is a wrestler and should be dq in every fight. fury is totaly overrated, just happens to be lucky he is tall. but against somebody close as tall as him and much more athletic he wont have a chance.

bigjack wrote:I'm glad he won,we need someone like him for a bit of excitement,and i hope he does rule in years to come,just can't see him being sturdy enough to take on the big european lads though.