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Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 02 Jul 2015, 11:04
by jonp
bripez wrote:
spudder56 wrote:
jonp wrote:if you look at every british,world europeon,wbc etc,commonwealth title fight that is two tests each time. Then you see the random ones of which i dont think anyone except ukad have any idea how many. So probably a couple of hundred a year depending on title fights.

Also I know for sure that ukad have turned up at several boxers houses and gyms and tested lots of boxers so it doesn't only happen at title fights refusal to take a test automatically means you are guilty of drug taking
Unless you don't hear the doorbell ringing !! ......
That one dont work in british boxing the boxer craig windsor didnt fail a test but wasnt there to take it.3 year 9 month ban

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 02 Jul 2015, 11:19
by CharlesListon
So what do the MBC do then? Are they registered with UKAD?

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 02 Jul 2015, 13:57
by Looking On
CharlesListon wrote:So what do the MBC do then? Are they registered with UKAD?
Wondered this myself. Ill ask damo if he knows

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 02 Jul 2015, 14:04
by Looking On
Looking On wrote:
CharlesListon wrote:So what do the MBC do then? Are they registered with UKAD?
Wondered this myself. Ill ask damo if he knows

Quick phone call finds the answer to that..

Associated to WADA via the Malta sports association.

All championship bouts see both competitors tested but on any show if no championship bouts are on then 2 boxers are randomly tested

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 02 Jul 2015, 14:20
by leejonesjnr
Looking On wrote:
Looking On wrote:
CharlesListon wrote:So what do the MBC do then? Are they registered with UKAD?
Wondered this myself. Ill ask damo if he knows

Quick phone call finds the answer to that..

Associated to WADA via the Malta sports association.

All championship bouts see both competitors tested but on any show if no championship bouts are on then 2 boxers are randomly tested
Please think carefully before you answer this.
Are you stating as a fact that all MBC shows have two boxers chosen at random for drug testing by WADA officials?

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 02 Jul 2015, 15:41
by Looking On
Im stating as a fact that its what i was told when i asked the question. obviously secondary source but what i was told nonetheless.

I dont know does the testing, is it WADA i dont know, but was told their is an association via the malta sports commision

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 02 Jul 2015, 15:55
by leejonesjnr
Looking On wrote:Im stating as a fact that its what i was told when i asked the question. obviously secondary source but what i was told nonetheless.

I dont know does the testing, is it WADA i dont know, but was told their is an association via the malta sports commision
Who told you this fact please?

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 02 Jul 2015, 16:16
by spudder56
leejonesjnr wrote:
Looking On wrote:Im stating as a fact that its what i was told when i asked the question. obviously secondary source but what i was told nonetheless.

I dont know does the testing, is it WADA i dont know, but was told their is an association via the malta sports commision
Who told you this fact please?

He's already answered that when he said he was making a quick call to Damo mate

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 02 Jul 2015, 16:50
by Looking On
leejonesjnr wrote:
Looking On wrote:Im stating as a fact that its what i was told when i asked the question. obviously secondary source but what i was told nonetheless.

I dont know does the testing, is it WADA i dont know, but was told their is an association via the malta sports commision
Who told you this fact please?
C'mon then Lee, youve obviously got some sort of issue with it so get to the point pal

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 02 Jul 2015, 17:30
by kamicazze
Different question?. What's the punishment with the MBC?

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 02 Jul 2015, 17:30
by kamicazze
kamicazze wrote:Different question?. What's the punishment with the MBC?
of getting caught that is

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 02 Jul 2015, 17:32
by Looking On
kamicazze wrote:
kamicazze wrote:Different question?. What's the punishment with the MBC?
of getting caught that is
Id assume that like with the board, its not them who would set the punishment.

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 02 Jul 2015, 18:43
by CharlesListon
There is no way that UKADA randomly test 2 per MBC show.

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 02 Jul 2015, 18:44
by CharlesListon
Or WADA...it doesn't work like that.

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 02 Jul 2015, 18:47
by spudder56
CharlesListon wrote:There is no way that UKADA randomly test 2 per MBC show.

X2

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 02 Jul 2015, 18:47
by spudder56
CharlesListon wrote:Or WADA...it doesn't work like that.

X2

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 02 Jul 2015, 18:54
by CharlesListon
WADA's website says they are only affiliated with AIBA and some other unheard of amateur boxing association.
I've emailed UKADA and asked them if they do. If I get a reply I'll paste it here.

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 02 Jul 2015, 19:21
by CharlesListon
And who are the Malta Sports Association, because they aren't on the internet....unless somehow the Malta Aquatic Sports Association or Malta Motorsport Association have combined to include a link with WADA, who in turn send agents to every MBC show for a minimum of two tests!!!!!

Joke.

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 03 Jul 2015, 02:31
by jonp
To be fair its statements like two random drug tests per show that make the mbc just look like they are saying things for the sake of it that will not happen.

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 03 Jul 2015, 09:12
by tijuana1
7 yrs as a pro with Bbbc not once was I or anyone in my gym of around 8pros ever tested, who r we to judge the MBC at this early infant stage of them growing in the UK ?

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 03 Jul 2015, 10:29
by leejonesjnr
tijuana1 wrote:7 yrs as a pro with Bbbc not once was I or anyone in my gym of around 8pros ever tested, who r we to judge the MBC at this early infant stage of them growing in the UK ?
Who is judging them based on drug their drug testing policy? At the moment we don't know what it is, just that some people are making claims that are untrue regarding 2 boxers tested on every show.

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 03 Jul 2015, 10:32
by freddydoesdallas
leejonesjnr wrote:
tijuana1 wrote:7 yrs as a pro with Bbbc not once was I or anyone in my gym of around 8pros ever tested, who r we to judge the MBC at this early infant stage of them growing in the UK ?
Who is judging them based on drug their drug testing policy? At the moment we don't know what it is, just that some people are making claims that are untrue regarding 2 boxers tested on every show.
He isn't making claims, he's passing on a response he got.

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 03 Jul 2015, 11:10
by leejonesjnr
freddydoesdallas wrote:
leejonesjnr wrote:
tijuana1 wrote:7 yrs as a pro with Bbbc not once was I or anyone in my gym of around 8pros ever tested, who r we to judge the MBC at this early infant stage of them growing in the UK ?
Who is judging them based on drug their drug testing policy? At the moment we don't know what it is, just that some people are making claims that are untrue regarding 2 boxers tested on every show.
He isn't making claims, he's passing on a response he got.
....and that response is a claim which is untrue

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 03 Jul 2015, 12:39
by freddydoesdallas
You're vilifying the messenger. If you know different to what he has been told then say it or take it up with MBC

Re: BBBofC licensed Boxers take note

Posted: 03 Jul 2015, 12:50
by bripez
leejonesjnr wrote:
tijuana1 wrote:7 yrs as a pro with Bbbc not once was I or anyone in my gym of around 8pros ever tested, who r we to judge the MBC at this early infant stage of them growing in the UK ?
Who is judging them based on drug their drug testing policy? At the moment we don't know what it is, just that some people are making claims that are untrue regarding 2 boxers tested on every show.
I understand that you are a BBBofC registered boxer - can I ask you a couple of questions ?

How long have you been involved in pro boxing ?
Have you ever been drug tested ?
How many pro boxers do you personally know who have been drug tested ?