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“The only big [welterweight] names in the UK are Matthew Hatton and Kell Brook,” Khan (26-1-0, 18ko) explained to Fight Hype.
When it comes to being matched with one of the two Englishman Khan, from Bolton, would veer more towards Matthew Hatton (42-5-2, 16ko) as he says he is the more experienced of the two fighters, has mixed it up with greater opposition and questioned the validity of Brook’s status as a future superstar.
“Matthew is a really good boxer, a warrior… if he gets a title at welterweight then yea, it would make sense and be a good fight for England – especially Manchester. Kell Brook has not fought anyone to be honest, Hatton has fought better opposition. Brook has not fought one good guy or one I’ve heard of. For my 26th fight I fought guys like [Marcos] Maidana, topping the bill in Las Vegas.
“They say Kell is the next superstar and the guy to beat Amir Khan but what is he doing? He’s fighting some old guy [Rafal Jackiewicz] who’s got 9 losses in a 1,000 seater in Sheffield.”
Khan believes the statements made by Brook (24-0-0, 16ko) to be less than savoury. Brook recently praised Khan for his speed but regarded his timing to be the factor that would negate Amir’s fast hands. This, on top of past comments that he would – like Breidis Prescott did in 2008 – kayo Khan.
“I tell you now, I wouldn’t want to give Brook a payday,” said the 24-year-old silver medal Olympian with key victories over Marco Antonio Barrera, Andriy Kotelnik, Maidana and Zab Judah as a professional. “It’s similar to Ricky Hatton and Junior Witter. Witter went about that the wrong way as he disrespected Ricky who was the man at the time so why is Ricky going to give you a payday when you struggle to sell out small arenas. Same goes for Kell.
“He doesn’t deserve a payday from me,” he reiterated. “In the UK, people want it, it’s the local scrap but nobody in America knows who Kell Brook is. He’s using my name to become a star. The welterweight division is packed like never before. There’s so many names: [Paul] Malignaggi, [Andre] Berto, [Victor] Ortiz, Mike Jones, Shane Mosley, [Floyd] Mayweather, [Manny] Pacquiao… they’re all up there but he don’t want any of them. He’s not yet on that world stage. It’s too late for him, I think he’ll lose.”
On the notorious sparring sessions, the ones where Brook said he enjoyed superiority, Khan countered: “The England coaches know what happened in sparring… I was lighter than him and used to slap him around the ring. I know I’m too fast and too accurate for him. He was having problems in his last fight so I heard he’s got a lot to learn. He could develop into a good fighter, maybe one of the best we have had but the way he’s going off, his attitude to the sport, the way he slags me off, I’m not sure.
“I’d beat him,” he added. “I’d beat him easy.”
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Tuan_Jim wrote:I think it comes down to the fact Khan genuinely believes Mayweather is ready for the taking and desperately wants to be the man that nabs the undefeated record from him. In Khan's brain, beating a 38 or 39 year old Floyd Mayweather totally redeems him and makes him an all-time great.

In fairness I wouldn't blame him for that, every professional fighter in the world would love to be the man who takes Floyd's unbeaten record.

tony1234 wrote:Is this really a 50k+ Wembley Stadium type contest ? I can't see this fight doing big money at all

I can, but I'm not sure why you would want to take a PPV contest between a lad from Sheffield and one from Bolton and promote it 250 miles away from the Pennine Hills that provide a decent additional selling point. HAtton-Witter never got made as a War Of The Roses fight, but this should be.

Why Khan doesn't want it? I would say that it comes down to the risk/reward thing, yes - though not in the way some people think. He'll happily fight Manny, PBF, Marquez or Bradley because he knows that losing those fights would not sit that badly on his record - elite fighters lose to one another all the time after all. Losing to Brook, he feels, would be a much more damaging statement about his worth as a fighter.

Would he lose? If he fought on the back foot, probabaly not. But I think he recognises how easy it would be for Brook to draw him in to a firefight and that he would lose. Badly.

NO PPV END OF STORY.

It cannot be justified. People need to wake up, seriously, do you like being exploited and treated like a mug? Stuff their "reasons" and / or "excuses" people already subscribe to Sky Sports and they already subscribe to allegedly. They pay for these services.

Sorry, and it may upset some people, but people who pay for PPV are stupid, and they make things worse for everyone else! much like politics though isn't it, people listen to and take in the bullshit.

Ian1973 wrote:NO PPV END OF STORY.

It cannot be justified. People need to wake up, seriously, do you like being exploited and treated like a mug? Stuff their "reasons" and / or "excuses" people already subscribe to Sky Sports and they already subscribe to allegedly. They pay for these services.

Sorry, and it may upset some people, but people who pay for PPV are stupid, and they make things worse for everyone else! much like politics though isn't it, people listen to and take in the bullshit.

What a load of shite...and also, not everyone who buys ppv subscribes to sky sports or even sky.

Do you think movies should be released at the cinema and that no actor is worth more than another?

Doesn't Brook have to win a fight and come through unscathed before they can even talk about a date?

Ian,
Just a reminder - the pits have closed as well.
Get with the programme mate and stop living in the past.

Parson Cross wrote:Ian,
Just a reminder - the pits have closed as well.
Get with the programme mate and stop living in the past.

I think one reason he may not be taking it is he knows it will always be there.
If he gets the big fights he's after, or not, this fight will still be on the table in 3 years time, providing the 2 fighters careers don't go drastically in opposite directions.

Like Hatton vs Witter, people will still want to see this even towards the end of both guys careers and it will sell.
We'll be mightily pissed off that they kept us waiting so long, but he knows he will always have the Brook payday up his sleeve.

Where as if he fights him now and loses it jeopardises the potential paydays he believes he deserves against Pac or mayweather

He knows whatever chance he does have of fighting the big 2 names in the division, he's going to have to do it in the next 18 months or the chance will be gone, he's not going to do anything that may risk that happening.
Where as the brook fight will still be there when both guys are in their early 30's and it will still be a fight that pays well.

One thing the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight shows us is that us boxing fans are a gullible lot.
Starve us of the fight we really want to see for 6 years and even when you come back offering us the watered down version, we'll be foaming at the mouth, desperate to see it

Khan wants high profile fighters with high ppv, just as yet brook is just establishing himself & it's a fight he can always fall
Back on as people pay to see who khan faces & it's better buisness wise to secure more lucrative fights. I mean he was prepared to face manny & floyd so he has no fear of brook as some suggest

hurlock wrote:Khan wants high profile fighters with high ppv, just as yet brook is just establishing himself & it's a fight he can always fall
Back on as people pay to see who khan faces & it's better buisness wise to secure more lucrative fights. I mean he was prepared to face manny & floyd so he has no fear of brook as some suggest

Being prepared to face Manny or Flloyd does not mean he isn't in fear of what a loss to Kell brings ie; a road to nowhere and a seriously bruised ego to boot.
Khan has the speed and timing to beat Brook.
Brook has the power and timing to beat Khan.
Anyone who predicts it either way is either not IMO being honest about the improvement in Khan or Brook.
Amir is effectively ducking a shot at a credible world title and millions of pounds in the hope of???
Khan looked super slick against Devon and a lot more disciplined he is better positioned to beat Brook than he has ever been its a very winnable fight for him but it has massive risks and the truth is he will look for any excuse .

hurlock wrote:Khan wants high profile fighters with high ppv, just as yet brook is just establishing himself & it's a fight he can always fall
Back on as people pay to see who khan faces & it's better buisness wise to secure more lucrative fights. I mean he was prepared to face manny & floyd so he has no fear of brook as some suggest

Being prepared to face Manny or Flloyd does not mean he isn't in fear of what a loss to Kell brings ie; a road to nowhere and a seriously bruised ego to boot.
Khan has the speed and timing to beat Brook.
Brook has the power and timing to beat Khan.
Anyone who predicts it either way is either not IMO being honest about the improvement in Khan or Brook.
Amir is effectively ducking a shot at a credible world title and millions of pounds in the hope of???
Khan looked super slick against Devon and a lot more disciplined he is better positioned to beat Brook than he has ever been its a very winnable fight for him but it has massive risks and the truth is he will look for any excuse .

TJ77 wrote:

hurlock wrote:Khan wants high profile fighters with high ppv, just as yet brook is just establishing himself & it's a fight he can always fall
Back on as people pay to see who khan faces & it's better buisness wise to secure more lucrative fights. I mean he was prepared to face manny & floyd so he has no fear of brook as some suggest

Being prepared to face Manny or Flloyd does not mean he isn't in fear of what a loss to Kell brings ie; a road to nowhere and a seriously bruised ego to boot.
Khan has the speed and timing to beat Brook.
Brook has the power and timing to beat Khan.
Anyone who predicts it either way is either not IMO being honest about the improvement in Khan or Brook.
Amir is effectively ducking a shot at a credible world title and millions of pounds in the hope of???
Khan looked super slick against Devon and a lot more disciplined he is better positioned to beat Brook than he has ever been its a very winnable fight for him but it has massive risks and the truth is he will look for any excuse .

Agree with pretty much all of this
but not enough to justify posting twice
it wasn't that good

Apologises Davie I was not sure if it had registered and then it was there twice.
Its the new look its gonna take me a little while to get familiar with it.

TJ77 wrote:Apologises Davie I was not sure if it had registered and then it was there twice.
Its the new look its gonna take me a little while to get familiar with it.

It's OK, I'll let it slide this time.

But if it happens again......