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Re: Duran vs Lampkin: 40 Years Later

Posted: 24 Mar 2015, 10:50
by Ambling Alp II
I take it seriously; he just missed putting his name in. Obviously he knows that Duran was better than DeJesus.

Re: Duran vs Lampkin: 40 Years Later

Posted: 24 Mar 2015, 12:09
by Seamus
No, it was an honest mistake. I'd rate Duran somewhere between 3-7 alltime at Lightweight, and 3-7 in any of the original 8 division means you were damn good.

Re: Duran vs Lampkin: 40 Years Later

Posted: 24 Mar 2015, 14:27
by palooka
Seamus wrote:No, it was an honest mistake. I'd rate Duran somewhere between 3-7 alltime at Lightweight, and 3-7 in any of the original 8 division means you were damn good.
Yeah, especially when you imagine how many thousands of boxers have been in those weight divisions.

Re: Duran vs Lampkin: 40 Years Later

Posted: 24 Mar 2015, 15:41
by elmersalsa
To me, the great Roberto Duran is the greatest fighter of all time of the last 50 years. Esteban De Jesus is an all time 20 great lightweight in my book.

Re: Duran vs Lampkin: 40 Years Later

Posted: 24 Mar 2015, 16:06
by palooka
elmersalsa wrote:To me, the great Roberto Duran is the greatest fighter of all time of the last 50 years. Esteban De Jesus is an all time 20 great lightweight in my book.
Hi, Elmer - do you think Arguello and Whittaker would have dealt with De Jesus, what about Jose Luis Ramirez.

Re: Duran vs Lampkin: 40 Years Later

Posted: 24 Mar 2015, 16:32
by Counter-puncher
Whittaker would do his fairly standard 8 rounds to four sorta job on dejesus imo.

arguello would- surprise surprise- probably struggle a little with his speed early, but he would make the ring seem very small to dejesus, break him down and beat him up, and stop him late-ish.no doubt in my mind.

Re: Duran vs Lampkin: 40 Years Later

Posted: 25 Mar 2015, 18:11
by elmersalsa
Esteban De Jesus vs Alexis Arguello.....The great Explosive Thin Man had problems with guys that moved side to side and use their bycicle. The DeJesus that fought the great Roberto Duran the first time at NYC's Madison Square Garden could beat Alexis. Arguello lost to a mover at 135lbs like Vilomar Fernandez. De Jesus was a fine and excellent boxer. Very clever and fast. I do not think that Esteban would be engaged in a slugsfest with Arguello. I think he would respect Arguello's punching power, much more than Duran's punching power.

De Jesus by decision for me.

Re: Duran vs Lampkin: 40 Years Later

Posted: 25 Mar 2015, 23:26
by Seamus
In a 10 rounder, De Jesus just might edge Arguello, but over 15, Arguello would take over in the championship rounds and sooner or later he'd land the big right hand in route to either a very late stoppage or clear pts victory.

Re: Duran vs Lampkin: 40 Years Later

Posted: 26 Mar 2015, 14:26
by Counter-puncher
Seamus wrote:In a 10 rounder, De Jesus just might edge Arguello, but over 15, Arguello would take over in the championship rounds.
totally agree

Re: Duran vs Lampkin: 40 Years Later

Posted: 29 Mar 2015, 11:54
by elmersalsa
Seamus wrote:In a 10 rounder, De Jesus just might edge Arguello, but over 15, Arguello would take over in the championship rounds and sooner or later he'd land the big right hand in route to either a very late stoppage or clear pts victory.
I could see that happening. It is a possibility. Esteban got the history of running out of gas in fast paced fights... The championship rounds of 13, 14 and 15 were Arguello's territory.

Re: Duran vs Lampkin: 40 Years Later

Posted: 31 Mar 2015, 19:28
by elmersalsa
I have rewatched the Duran vs Lampkin fight. This time, I had Duran winning 125-124 at the time of the stoppage. The fight was close. This was one of Duran's toughest scraps. I had him winning 6-5-2 in rounds. So Lampkin in my view won 5 rounds. He came to fight.