Who hasn't got a world class winHorse wrote:Bute was a world class super middleweight. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong.freddydoesdallas wrote:My point exactly!
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freddydoesdallas
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He was top 3 in the division for quite a while. He was a good fighter.freddydoesdallas wrote:Who hasn't got a world class win
He beat Bika, Berrio, Andrade, Magee, Johnson and others comfortably. He was one of the best super middleweights for years. He might have been overrated, but he was still world class.
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Switch hitter
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If George Groves beat Bute you would have him No 1....no doubtHorse wrote:He was top 3 in the division for quite a while. He was a good fighter.freddydoesdallas wrote:Who hasn't got a world class win
He beat Bika, Berrio, Andrade, Magee, Johnson and others comfortably. He was one of the best super middleweights for years. He might have been overrated, but he was still world class.
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No.Switch hitter wrote:If George Groves beat Bute you would have him No 1....no doubt
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Horse wrote:He was born in London and spent the first 13 or so years of his life in Britain, so he is a bit British.cocka09 wrote:I understand why Northern Irish fihters are included. But Andy Lee is Irish, he is not Britis in any way.
I include all Irish fighters to make things more simple. I put (Irish) next to their names to show that I'm not pretending that they're not Irish.
Jesus was born in a stable. That doesn't make him a horse.
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I was born a horse. That doesn't make me stable.cocka09 wrote:Jesus was born in a stable. That doesn't make him a horse.
Regardless, I've got (Irish) next to his name, so I'm not claiming that he isn't Irish.
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handsofstone
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Horse wrote:I was born a horse. That doesn't make me stable.cocka09 wrote:Jesus was born in a stable. That doesn't make him a horse.
Regardless, I've got (Irish) next to his name, so I'm not claiming that he isn't Irish.
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Horse wrote:I was born a horse. That doesn't make me stable.cocka09 wrote:Jesus was born in a stable. That doesn't make him a horse.
Regardless, I've got (Irish) next to his name, so I'm not claiming that he isn't Irish.
Well why don't you put Americans in and put American next to their name?
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It's not the same situation.cocka09 wrote:Well why don't you put Americans in and put American next to their name?
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Having caught Eubank's recent fight with Chudinov this morning he looks like a beast. I see him developing into a strong athlete and with Snr there to coach him - even tho they come over as a bit strained - I can only see Eubank getting better, so - who will go further out of him and Saunders? I think Saunders is the better boxer but he will need to be tip-top fitness-wise to dominate Eubank - who appears stronger to me - should that fight materialise down the line.
If it does happen, what sort of timescale might we be looking at? How does Andy Lee's fight tonight impact on that - as there's talk of a match-up between him and Saunders also?
If it does happen, what sort of timescale might we be looking at? How does Andy Lee's fight tonight impact on that - as there's talk of a match-up between him and Saunders also?
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Lee vs Saunders should be next.magwitch wrote:Having caught Eubank's recent fight with Chudinov this morning he looks like a beast. I see him developing into a strong athlete and with Snr there to coach him - even tho they come over as a bit strained - I can only see Eubank getting better, so - who will go further out of him and Saunders? I think Saunders is the better boxer but he will need to be tip-top fitness-wise to dominate Eubank - who appears stronger to me - should that fight materialise down the line.
If it does happen, what sort of timescale might we be looking at? How does Andy Lee's fight tonight impact on that - as there's talk of a match-up between him and Saunders also?
There is no way that a Saunders vs Eubank rematch should happen before Saunders fights for the world title.
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Is Billy Joe Saunders ready for Andy Lee, who has not been sensational of late, by accounts?
If Saunders did manage to beat him, does that set up a Eubank rematch for a world title? I don't think it benefits Eubank to be boxing at that level yet as he seems to have two decent names on his record - Saunders and Chudinov - one of whom beat him.
If Saunders did manage to beat him, does that set up a Eubank rematch for a world title? I don't think it benefits Eubank to be boxing at that level yet as he seems to have two decent names on his record - Saunders and Chudinov - one of whom beat him.
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He's the mandatory. If he loses he loses.magwitch wrote:Is Billy Joe Saunders ready for Andy Lee, who has not been sensational of late, by accounts?
The first fight was close, so I don't see why not.magwitch wrote:If Saunders did manage to beat him, does that set up a Eubank rematch for a world title? I don't think it benefits Eubank to be boxing at that level yet as he seems to have two decent names on his record - Saunders and Chudinov - one of whom beat him.
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Fair enough on point one, but I meant if Eubank were to take Saunders then he might get put in the firing line at world level. Having said that I've got the rankings here and Jermain Taylor holds the IBF title - Soliman - Cotto - Martinez. Not spring chickens. Maybe still too much for Eubank however.Horse wrote:He's the mandatory. If he loses he loses.magwitch wrote:Is Billy Joe Saunders ready for Andy Lee, who has not been sensational of late, by accounts?
The first fight was close, so I don't see why not.magwitch wrote:If Saunders did manage to beat him, does that set up a Eubank rematch for a world title? I don't think it benefits Eubank to be boxing at that level yet as he seems to have two decent names on his record - Saunders and Chudinov - one of whom beat him.
This WBA champ Daniel Jacobs I don't know anything about - and Eubank holds the WBA Interim strap.
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I think it's worth the risk for Eubank.magwitch wrote:Fair enough on point one, but I meant if Eubank were to take Saunders then he might get put in the firing line at world level. Having said that I've got the rankings here and Jermain Taylor holds the IBF title - Soliman - Cotto - Martinez. Not spring chickens. Maybe still too much for Eubank however.
This WBA champ Daniel Jacobs I don't know anything about - and Eubank holds the WBA Interim strap.
It might be coming to soon for him, but he should be able to rebuild if he loses.