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Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 16:28
by JC
handsofstone wrote:J-C wrote:Right now looks as though Liam Smith might turn out to be a Macklin sort of fighter. He's tough and fit, hard to beat, but his punch technique isn't brilliant.
I think he's got good technique,especially the body shots and uppercuts
Not seen that much of Smith before, but tonight he reminded me a bit of the Macklin that fought Sturm: heart, work rate, determination, switching between body and head, but not all that crisp. I felt that hurt Macklin in the end at the very top. Still a really good career though, EBU champ, multiple title challenger, etc.
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 16:29
by doug.ie
i have no clue whats gone on here with this fight...abril is no longer wba champ??..he's in recess ??.
awarded to darleys perez??...perez was 'interim' ?
why is abril being stripped for not following through with a voluntary defence ?
its beat me all this
![[icon_e_confused.gif] :confused:](./images/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif)
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 16:30
by handsofstone
J-C wrote:handsofst vone wrote:J-C wrote:Right now looks as though Liam Smith might turn out to be a Macklin sort of fighter. He's tough and fit, hard to beat, but his punch technique isn't brilliant.
I think he's got good technique,especially the body shots and uppercuts
Not seen that much of Smith before, but tonight he reminded me a bit of the Macklin that fought Sturm: heart, work rate, determination, switching between body and head, but not all that crisp. I felt that hurt Macklin in the end at the very top. Still a really good career though, EBU champ, multiple title challenger, etc.
Yeah they both box workman like, Beefy looks like he'd be tough to KO though
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 16:32
by Boxing Prospect
doug.ie wrote:i have no clue whats gone on here with this fight...abril is no longer wba champ??..he's in recess ??.
awarded to darleys perez??...perez was 'interim' ?
why is abril being stripped for not following through with a voluntary defence ?
its beat me all this
![[icon_e_confused.gif] :confused:](./images/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif)
It's about the third one he's pulled out of (Linares and Troyanovsky)...
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 16:32
by handsofstone
I'm expecting lots of blood tonight in the main event
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 16:33
by expe
doug.ie wrote:i have no clue whats gone on here with this fight...abril is no longer wba champ??..he's in recess ??.
awarded to darleys perez??...perez was 'interim' ?
why is abril being stripped for not following through with a voluntary defence ?
its beat me all this
![[icon_e_confused.gif] :confused:](./images/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif)
Abril made 2 defences in 2 years, pulled out of at least 4, the last 2 within 2 weeks of the fight. He's now been made champion in recess by the WBA if he returns in the next 6 months he gets a fight against Perez, who has been made full champion, if he doesn't then he's at the back of the queue again. Derry is now fighting for the vacant title.
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 16:33
by Boxing Prospect
I like Tony Luis a lot listening to him. He called a spade a spade.
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 16:35
by doug.ie
Boxing Prospect wrote:
It's about the third one he's pulled out of (Linares and Troyanovsky)...
and they were both voluntaries ?
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 16:36
by doug.ie
expe wrote:
Abril made 2 defences in 2 years, pulled out of at least 4, the last 2 within 2 weeks of the fight. He's now been made champion in recess by the WBA if he returns in the next 6 months he gets a fight against Perez, who has been made full champion, if he doesn't then he's at the back of the queue again. Derry is now fighting for the vacant title.
hope you'll excuse my confusion....i normally try to be more clued up than this.
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 16:39
by Boxerbeetle
Come on Derry

Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 16:39
by Boxing Prospect
doug.ie wrote:Boxing Prospect wrote:
It's about the third one he's pulled out of (Linares and Troyanovsky)...
and they were both voluntaries ?
Yeah, both in the last 24 months as well, strangely he seemed to curse opponents as rescheduled dates with both were cancelled when they got injured and then of course Crolla suffered his nasty incident. Watch Derry break his leg after 2 rounds in some freak incident...
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 16:42
by doug.ie
dirty derry is like a cat...on about the 4th of his 9 lives
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 16:45
by JC
Luis seems to be punching short a lot.
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 16:50
by Andrew
Uppercut working well for Derry as Luis is coming in.
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 16:55
by Old bones Ian
So far so good after the 3rd, Luis seemed to come into it a bit more towards the end of the round, but Derry up so far. Needs to keep to his long range boxing though not get dragged in
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 16:56
by Old bones Ian
That left hook of Luis is wild , but if one of them lands
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 16:57
by JC
Luis's jab never lands.
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 16:59
by Old bones Ian
Think Luis just shaded the 4th, bit more workrate and more spoiling from Derry. But very close
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 17:03
by handsofstone
Derry like a fine wine,improving with age,showing some tidy boxing in there, great footwork
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 17:04
by Old bones Ian
Much better by Derry in the 5th, boxed , moved and picked his punches well, stayed off the ropes.
Luis is tough and just keeps coming forward, the final 3rd of this fight is going to be great , if it gets that far
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 17:07
by handsofstone
Bodyshots look key for Luis
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 17:08
by Andrew
The Luis from his last fight turned up there.
This is getting more interesting as it goes on.
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 17:08
by Old bones Ian
Derry just takes the 6th with better accuracy , landed some good uppercuts early on. Luis come back near the end of the round lands a couple of cracking body shots as Derry is against the ropes
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 17:09
by Boxing Prospect
Really can't see how Derry won the 6th
Re: Matthews vs Luis Discussion Thread
Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 17:10
by milpool
Derry struggling a bit now...