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Badhusker wrote:Dear confused fans,

The reason Floyd boxes like he does and wins like he does.....is because he can. I don't think it is his fault that he doesn't have to fight full out and use all his tools to win. Would I like to see it? Absolutely! We did see much more of it in his younger days. I think of Roy Jones Jr. went through a similar phase where people questioned his greatness because he won so easily. Rocky Marciano - was in a weak era of heavyweights. Will Wlad suffer the same fate too?

Floyd wins the easiest way he can. Until someone beats him, why change? Pac was supposed to challenge him since he was the fighter of the decade, unpredictable, weird angles, a volume puncher, something Floyd has not seen before, etc, etc.

As far as people paying to see Floyd's fights? I would guess 75% pay to see him lose, and he laughs all the way to the bank. Its easy to say now, after the fact that people were dumb to pay for the fight. Captain obvious award goes to: Diddy!

Impractical Poster wrote:CS really is full of hatred and ignorance. Anyone who wanted to pay for one of the biggest match-ups in the history of the sport are now simple minded idiots. But those who chose to stream it illegally and risk crappy content are the smart ones? Go figure...

Listen, I am not really a big Manny fan. I consider myself more of a Mayweather critic. If I had decided to lay down money on the fight, it would have been on Mayweather. However, I was rooting for Manny. The fight unfolded similar to how I thought it would. But, I wanted to be part of a historical event and view it the best way I could. Those that consider people like me simple minded idiots are quite intolerant and ignorant. Hey, I'm just as unhappy with how the fight went as you guys that are complaining, but at least I'm dealing with it in a rational, mature fashion. Most of you are lashing out any way you can, like a disgruntled elementary school bully.

jas80s wrote:I don't think those that wondered if Pacquiao could have enough success in the fight to make Mayweather make adjustments and perhaps even have to fight some qualify as simple minded idiots...In retrospect, I do feel silly for having wasted my time watching that performance...But, I don't think I should have known it was going to pan out that way going in.

I too felt Mayweather would win, but I was surprised to see such a bad fight.

diddy wrote:Let's be real here. Every time someone watches a Mayweather fight they end the fight saying the same thing, "man that dude ran, man he's boring, man he dont wanna fight". Then Floyd throws some $100 bills around in between fights, talks some BS, his team talks some BS, and the same idiots who paid to see his last fight and were bored to tears......get in line to pay to be bored to tears again. Over...and over...and over.

I can proudly say that I have not spent $1 on a Floyd Mayweather fight in my LIFE. I know how to use the perks of the internet and get stuff for free that others shell out their hard-earned $ for. It's really not hard to figure out how to plug an HDMI to HDMI wire into a TV. For the same money people wasted on this 1 Floyd fight I went down to the local Kohl's and bought 4-5 shirts. Something tangible.

My real question is....why are people so f*cking dumb? WHO WOULD PAY to see the same crap over and over again....when they can easily just watch it for free?! WHY would you support a guy who wants to dance and not fight. Look, I appreciate his insane skills/athleticism. He's THE BEST of his era. A master of his craft. But he's not an all-time great. He's borderline top 20-25 all time. Definitely not TBE. Definitely not top 10 either. His era wasnt filled with enough good fighters to make him the Goat. He's also not a "fighter". He's a supreme, pristine risk-adverse tactician. The all-time great list is filled with guys who werent content just to coast. You have to look to finish the job SOMETIMES or at least OCCASIONALLY in my book to be TBE. He never did that, ever. And for that he takes a backseat. His bank account, however, took a backseat to no one in the history of the game, and maybe the future history of the game...because people are too simple-minded to see through his in-between fights verbal BS, and also dont know how to operate the internet properly.

The simple minded masses NEVER GAVE HIM a reason to change his style or become fan friendly. You are just reinforcing to him that it's OK to fight in this manner. The only way to get true enjoyment out of the guy would've been to not blindly shell out for his fights, force him to FIGHT, and in turn make more money. I'm dissapointed in my fellow boxing fans. They should all know better, but sadly, the majority of fight fans arent the brightest crayons in the box from a social class perspective, and thats unfortunate.

cocka09 wrote:

diddy wrote:Let's be real here. Every time someone watches a Mayweather fight they end the fight saying the same thing, "man that dude ran, man he's boring, man he dont wanna fight". Then Floyd throws some $100 bills around in between fights, talks some BS, his team talks some BS, and the same idiots who paid to see his last fight and were bored to tears......get in line to pay to be bored to tears again. Over...and over...and over.

I can proudly say that I have not spent $1 on a Floyd Mayweather fight in my LIFE. I know how to use the perks of the internet and get stuff for free that others shell out their hard-earned $ for. It's really not hard to figure out how to plug an HDMI to HDMI wire into a TV. For the same money people wasted on this 1 Floyd fight I went down to the local Kohl's and bought 4-5 shirts. Something tangible.

My real question is....why are people so f*cking dumb? WHO WOULD PAY to see the same crap over and over again....when they can easily just watch it for free?! WHY would you support a guy who wants to dance and not fight. Look, I appreciate his insane skills/athleticism. He's THE BEST of his era. A master of his craft. But he's not an all-time great. He's borderline top 20-25 all time. Definitely not TBE. Definitely not top 10 either. His era wasnt filled with enough good fighters to make him the Goat. He's also not a "fighter". He's a supreme, pristine risk-adverse tactician. The all-time great list is filled with guys who werent content just to coast. You have to look to finish the job SOMETIMES or at least OCCASIONALLY in my book to be TBE. He never did that, ever. And for that he takes a backseat. His bank account, however, took a backseat to no one in the history of the game, and maybe the future history of the game...because people are too simple-minded to see through his in-between fights verbal BS, and also dont know how to operate the internet properly.

The simple minded masses NEVER GAVE HIM a reason to change his style or become fan friendly. You are just reinforcing to him that it's OK to fight in this manner. The only way to get true enjoyment out of the guy would've been to not blindly shell out for his fights, force him to FIGHT, and in turn make more money. I'm dissapointed in my fellow boxing fans. They should all know better, but sadly, the majority of fight fans arent the brightest crayons in the box from a social class perspective, and thats unfortunate.

If everyone watched everything for free the sport would crumble and die out! Well done you on supporting our fighters!!

Chepppaaa wrote:exactly, those who streamed they are the smart one, cause floyd fights are 100 % boring, every single one

KBB wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:exactly, those who streamed they are the smart one, cause floyd fights are 100 % boring, every single one

George Foreman quote- " Boxing is like jazz. The better it is, the less people appreciate it." " or words to that effect.

Face it, you are not a boxing fan, you are an action junkie or a fan of brawling which is why you like MP's style.

The funny thing is that it was MP who made the fight boring by his lack of attacking, lack of intelligence in how to cut off the ring and force Floyd to have to fight him and his lack of overall effectiveness.

Floyd did what Floyd always does but because he was much more effective at it in this fight (in keeping with Foreman's comment) he made it so one-sided that it bored you because your Hero couldn't do sh*t.

Floyd is a master boxer who boxed MP's to complete exposure for what he is; no more than a volume puncher with limited skills on how to cut off a ring, how to block, duck or dodge right hand shots, how to parry or slip the jab and how to use an effective defense.

Why do you have a problem? Because the jazz from Mayweather was played so much better than the rock and roll from Manny.

Chepppaaa wrote:what hobbys do you got outside of talking about floyd?

KBB wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:what hobbys do you got outside of talking about floyd?

What hobbies do you have outside of insulting Floyd??

Chepppaaa wrote:

KBB wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:what hobbys do you got outside of talking about floyd?

What hobbies do you have outside of insulting Floyd??

playing other sports, you?

diddy wrote:

Badhusker wrote:Dear confused fans,

The reason Floyd boxes like he does and wins like he does.....is because he can. I don't think it is his fault that he doesn't have to fight full out and use all his tools to win. Would I like to see it? Absolutely! We did see much more of it in his younger days. I think of Roy Jones Jr. went through a similar phase where people questioned his greatness because he won so easily. Rocky Marciano - was in a weak era of heavyweights. Will Wlad suffer the same fate too?

Floyd wins the easiest way he can. Until someone beats him, why change? Pac was supposed to challenge him since he was the fighter of the decade, unpredictable, weird angles, a volume puncher, something Floyd has not seen before, etc, etc.

As far as people paying to see Floyd's fights? I would guess 75% pay to see him lose, and he laughs all the way to the bank. Its easy to say now, after the fact that people were dumb to pay for the fight. Captain obvious award goes to: Diddy!

"After the fact"?! Bahaha, I've been saying it BEFORE each of his fights for the past 5 yrs. I cant believe people pay for this CRAP.

KBB wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:exactly, those who streamed they are the smart one, cause floyd fights are 100 % boring, every single one

George Foreman quote- " Boxing is like jazz. The better it is, the less people appreciate it." " or words to that effect.

Face it, you are not a boxing fan, you are an action junkie or a fan of brawling which is why you like MP's style.

The funny thing is that it was MP who made the fight boring by his lack of attacking, lack of intelligence in how to cut off the ring and force Floyd to have to fight him and his lack of overall effectiveness.

Floyd did what Floyd always does but because he was much more effective at it in this fight (in keeping with Foreman's comment) he made it so one-sided that it bored you because your Hero couldn't do sh*t.

Floyd is a master boxer who boxed MP's to complete exposure for what he is; no more than a volume puncher with limited skills on how to cut off a ring, how to block, duck or dodge right hand shots, how to parry or slip the jab and how to use an effective defense.

Why do you have a problem? Because the jazz from Mayweather was played so much better than the rock and roll from Manny.

Impractical Poster wrote:George also said Manny won the fight...

Anyhow, skillful fighters can be exciting too. Floyd's problem, is while he is ultra talented and skilled, he fights timid most of the time. An example I used earlier was Crawford. He is ultra talented and looks to the knockout. I don't care what type of boxing fan you are... everyone loves a ko. If Floyd wasn't so timid, he'd be looking for kos too. But he is timid, and that is why he gets a lot of crap.

diddy wrote:Let's be real here. Every time someone watches a Mayweather fight they end the fight saying the same thing, "man that dude ran, man he's boring, man he dont wanna fight". Then Floyd throws some $100 bills around in between fights, talks some BS, his team talks some BS, and the same idiots who paid to see his last fight and were bored to tears......get in line to pay to be bored to tears again. Over...and over...and over.

I can proudly say that I have not spent $1 on a Floyd Mayweather fight in my LIFE. I know how to use the perks of the internet and get stuff for free that others shell out their hard-earned $ for. It's really not hard to figure out how to plug an HDMI to HDMI wire into a TV. For the same money people wasted on this 1 Floyd fight I went down to the local Kohl's and bought 4-5 shirts. Something tangible.

My real question is....why are people so f*cking dumb? WHO WOULD PAY to see the same crap over and over again....when they can easily just watch it for free?! WHY would you support a guy who wants to dance and not fight. Look, I appreciate his insane skills/athleticism. He's THE BEST of his era. A master of his craft. But he's not an all-time great. He's borderline top 20-25 all time. Definitely not TBE. Definitely not top 10 either. His era wasnt filled with enough good fighters to make him the Goat. He's also not a "fighter". He's a supreme, pristine risk-adverse tactician. The all-time great list is filled with guys who werent content just to coast. You have to look to finish the job SOMETIMES or at least OCCASIONALLY in my book to be TBE. He never did that, ever. And for that he takes a backseat. His bank account, however, took a backseat to no one in the history of the game, and maybe the future history of the game...because people are too simple-minded to see through his in-between fights verbal BS, and also dont know how to operate the internet properly.

The simple minded masses NEVER GAVE HIM a reason to change his style or become fan friendly. You are just reinforcing to him that it's OK to fight in this manner. The only way to get true enjoyment out of the guy would've been to not blindly shell out for his fights, force him to FIGHT, and in turn make more money. I'm dissapointed in my fellow boxing fans. They should all know better, but sadly, the majority of fight fans arent the brightest crayons in the box from a social class perspective, and thats unfortunate.

diddy wrote:Did I say Ward was an all time great?

Biggest disparity between Ward and Floyd? Ward doesn't go around parading himself as TBE. Huge difference.