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jezzamundo wrote:

TheWigwam wrote:I scored the fight 115-113 to Floyd but have not watched the fight since watching it live at a packed out student union. I wanted Pacquiao to win as a fan but I don't dislike Floyd and had a small bet on him to win. Also, most of the SU were casual Pac-man fans who vociferously showed their support all night by whooping and clapping everytime Pacquiao launched his little bursts. I mention this for context because I feel that I am normally pretty good at scoring fights, however my circumstances were unique for this one and I may have been caught up in the event slightly.

My main reason for the score was that I felt Manny's defense was better than people gave him credit for, I thought he made Floyd miss a lot and also blocked many of his shots, this led to a few rounds where barely anything was landed; making them very close. I can see the score being anywhere from around 116-112 to Floyd to 115-114 to Floyd, the latter of which would have been my score for the night, but 30 seconds or so after a round a gave split, I decided Floyd just edged it.

I think that it was the second round which makes my score different to most as I gave it to Pac-man, most gave it to Floyd and had I done so I would have had it 116-112 to Money.

I'll have to re-watch the fight to be sure

Very reasonable - I agree with of most of this - perhaps we should be judges?!

Gazmac81 wrote:i used a scoring app for first time and to be honest i had it close - 116 -115

that said i had 3 rounds even but i couldnt argue that those rounds were deserved by Pacman in anyway as nothing was happening .

Ricky_ wrote:

Gazmac81 wrote:i used a scoring app for first time and to be honest i had it close - 116 -115

that said i had 3 rounds even but i couldnt argue that those rounds were deserved by Pacman in anyway as nothing was happening .

Then why does Mayweather deserve them? This always gets me with Floyd fights, it's like every second of inactivity by default goes to Mayweather.

koolkc107 wrote:

Pureist wrote:just gone through rounds 2 and 3 at 1/4 speed, round 2 floyd threw48 punches connected with 7, 3 were soft body rips while holding pacquaio in a clinch,pac threw 34 and landed with 7-------- round 3 floyd threw 31 punches and landed 4, pacquaio also threw 31 and landed 8, also hunted floyd for majority of round, both rounds floyd mainly going backwards or sidewards

Don't know what you and others are counting as landed punches.

Just did the same thing you did and found Compubox pretty accurate for this fight.

I do grant that they can get things wrong...

Pureist wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:

Pureist wrote:just gone through rounds 2 and 3 at 1/4 speed, round 2 floyd threw48 punches connected with 7, 3 were soft body rips while holding pacquaio in a clinch,pac threw 34 and landed with 7-------- round 3 floyd threw 31 punches and landed 4, pacquaio also threw 31 and landed 8, also hunted floyd for majority of round, both rounds floyd mainly going backwards or sidewards

Don't know what you and others are counting as landed punches.

Just did the same thing you did and found Compubox pretty accurate for this fight.

I do grant that they can get things wrong...

I'm scoring landed punches as punches that landed, pretty simple really, both have fast hands, sometimes punches appear to land where they don't,compubox is right off but all the floydettes love quoting their numbers because they favor him

Pureist wrote:I'm scoring landed punches as punches that landed, pretty simple really, both have fast hands, sometimes punches appear to land where they don't,compubox is right off but all the floydettes love quoting their numbers because they favor him

Pureist wrote:^^^^^your younger than I thought you were kbb, don't worry, you will understand how boxing works one day, could you comprehend the info for rounds 2 and 3, or was it to complex for your tiny little brain

Gazmac81 wrote:i used a scoring app for first time and to be honest i had it close - 116 -115

that said i had 3 rounds even but i couldnt argue that those rounds were deserved by Pacman in anyway as nothing was happening .

i was suprised that i had it close as overall going into the last round i though floyd really deserves this.

Rounds - 1 / 2 / 5 / 11 / 12 to mayweather

rounds - 4 / 6 / 8 /10 - to pacman

Rounds - 3 / 7 / 9 -Even

Chepppaaa wrote:

Gazmac81 wrote:i used a scoring app for first time and to be honest i had it close - 116 -115

that said i had 3 rounds even but i couldnt argue that those rounds were deserved by Pacman in anyway as nothing was happening .

i was suprised that i had it close as overall going into the last round i though floyd really deserves this.

Rounds - 1 / 2 / 5 / 11 / 12 to mayweather

rounds - 4 / 6 / 8 /10 - to pacman

Rounds - 3 / 7 / 9 -Even

i had it 116:115 for manny, cause of point deductionf or excessive holding by floyd and floyd giving up the last round for to much running, but i also like your score, very close fight.

some could argue floyd didnt do enough and lost

some could argue floyd landed more presice punches and controlled the fight

some could say both werent doing enoug, draw

jezzamundo wrote:I just rewatched the fight for the first time. British commentary (who seemed ridiculously biased towards Floyd, particularly early in the fight) turned on, as painful as it was at times.

Round 1 - Mayweather very clear - threw more, landed more, Pacquiao did little
Round 2 - Pacquiao close, swing round - could reasonably be scored for either fighter
Round 3 - Pacquiao close but clear - neither landed anything meaningful, but Manny's aggression and activity win it for me, I think you have to be very generous to Floyd to give him this one
Round 4 - Pacquiao dominant
Round 5 - Mayweather dominant
Round 6 - Pacquiao clear, threw more and landed the harder punches
Round 7 - Even round - Swing round. Mayweather threw more but was very innacurate, Manny landed the crisper punches, but didn't throw enough.
Round 8 - Mayweather clear, competitive early, but Floyd clearly outboxed and landed him over the last minute
Round 9 - Mayweather close, swing round - similar to round 8 but Manny did a bit better and you could give it to him on activity, though I don't
Round 10 - Pacquiao close - Swing round, Manny missing a lot, Floyd not throwing many meaningful punches.
Round 11 - Mayweather clear - beautiful counterpunching from Floyd, though neither landed anything meaningful
Round 12 - Mayweather clear - Floyd was very negative late in the round, but clearly outboxed Manny for most of the round

Final scorecard: Mayweather 115-114

Looking back at my first scoring of the fight, I originally scored round 12 for Manny, but I admit I got this wrong and was probably swayed by the crowd and Floyd's lack of punches in the final minute. I don't remember the rest of my original RBR for the final six rounds.

man wrote:very reasonable scoring for me.

KBB wrote:

man wrote:very reasonable scoring for me.

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greg wrote:...ever occurred to you there are more than enough boxing fans who tried to score the fight the best way they could and NOT caring one way or other for BOTH guys?

NateJR wrote:The purpose of this particular thread is to explain your scoring while supplying real facts on how you felt Pacquiao should have been rewarded certain rounds. What I've witnessed thus far is people flat out lying to come up with rounds for Pacquiao that he simply didn't win. It seems some on here will claim that every punch Floyd landed was ineffective, while all of Pacquiaos missed punches won him the fight. That pretty much sums it up.

NateJR wrote:The purpose of this particular thread is to explain your scoring while supplying real facts on how you felt Pacquiao should have been rewarded certain rounds. What I've witnessed thus far is people flat out lying to come up with rounds for Pacquiao that he simply didn't win. It seems some on here will claim that every punch Floyd landed was ineffective, while all of Pacquiaos missed punches won him the fight. That pretty much sums it up.

koolkc107 wrote:

NateJR wrote:The purpose of this particular thread is to explain your scoring while supplying real facts on how you felt Pacquiao should have been rewarded certain rounds. What I've witnessed thus far is people flat out lying to come up with rounds for Pacquiao that he simply didn't win. It seems some on here will claim that every punch Floyd landed was ineffective, while all of Pacquiaos missed punches won him the fight. That pretty much sums it up.

This! (bolded).

I am trying to find out why some folks think Pac won rounds he clearly lost.

And I don't think Compubox is always accurate. I have actually questioned its accuracy many times.

But when the Compubox matches up round by round to how the judges at ringside scored, you have to take the stats seriously.

Again, the judges don't see Compubox, they see the fight. And they score it overwhelmingly for Mayweather.

And so did 99% of the folks watching not named Stevie wonder.

Both Compubox and the judges agree for this particular fight.

So I need Pac fans to tell us all what we didn't see.

That is why I asked for specifics.

KBB wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:

NateJR wrote:The purpose of this particular thread is to explain your scoring while supplying real facts on how you felt Pacquiao should have been rewarded certain rounds. What I've witnessed thus far is people flat out lying to come up with rounds for Pacquiao that he simply didn't win. It seems some on here will claim that every punch Floyd landed was ineffective, while all of Pacquiaos missed punches won him the fight. That pretty much sums it up.

This! (bolded).

I am trying to find out why some folks think Pac won rounds he clearly lost.

And I don't think Compubox is always accurate. I have actually questioned its accuracy many times.

But when the Compubox matches up round by round to how the judges at ringside scored, you have to take the stats seriously.

Again, the judges don't see Compubox, they see the fight. And they score it overwhelmingly for Mayweather.

And so did 99% of the folks watching not named Stevie wonder.

Both Compubox and the judges agree for this particular fight.

So I need Pac fans to tell us all what we didn't see.

That is why I asked for specifics.

Kool, these same idiots that you are asking this question are the same idiots that somehow have me, you and Nate confused and somehow think we are the same persons because we have different ideas from them but we could easily say the same for them.

They are Pacquiao worshippers and really that is the only answer that is required, they will never see the truth in this because they are too biased and too BUTTHURT that their hero lost this fight easily.

Marky_Marc wrote:I'll explain my scoring..Mayweather Won.

Hope that was as "Detailed as possible" for your ass

KBB wrote:

man wrote:very reasonable scoring for me.

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