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Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:12
by Baby Face Finster
What a reception the crowd gave him in the post fight interview. You can tell people love the guy.

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:14
by ikorolev
People in California are booing when Ward is mentioned !

Also, Golovkin said that he deliberately didn't want to finish the fight in 5 minutes, and he made it competitive deliberately to please the fans who came to watch him.

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:14
by crusader
$1.5 million isn't a big payday?

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:15
by punchoutsb
fergusg wrote:That was an exciting fight, but Golovkin was sloppy compared to his usually exceptional standards... and let's not kid ourselves into believing that Willie Monroe Jr. was a world-class 160lb-er, because he simply wasn't.

That being said, an apparently sloppy and unmotivated GGG is still head and shoulders above the rest of the 160lb division. It's just a shame that K2 and HBO won't give him big paydays or allow him to demonstrate his supreme talent by funding a big super-fight, because the men he's facing are almost always second-tier (at best), barring one or two exceptions. :TU:
I don't think he looked sloppy at all...

I think he purposefully was letting Monroe hit him. FWIW, he "confirmed" that in the post fight interview.

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:15
by franio
Yeah, I like this referee, good job.

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:16
by jezzamundo
To be fair, I was distracted by my baby daughter while watching the 5th so I possibly got it wrong. GGG undoubtedly landed the better punches, but Monroe was landing a lot more punches and GGG was defensively poor.

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:16
by Baby Face Finster
fergusg wrote:That was an exciting fight, but Golovkin was sloppy compared to his usually exceptional standards... and let's not kid ourselves into believing that Willie Monroe Jr. was a world-class 160lb-er, because he simply wasn't.

That being said, an apparently sloppy and unmotivated GGG is still head and shoulders above the rest of the 160lb division. It's just a shame that K2 and HBO won't give him big paydays or allow him to demonstrate his supreme talent by funding a big super-fight, because the men he's facing are almost always second-tier (at best), barring one or two exceptions. :TU:

Like the song goes...."and the haters gonna hate hate hate!"

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:17
by crusader
jezzamundo wrote:To be fair, I was distracted by my baby daughter while watching the 5th so I possibly got it wrong. GGG undoubtedly landed the better punches, but Monroe was landing a lot more punches and GGG was defensively poor.
Fair enough, but a left hook buckled Monroe to the point of nearly going down and he took plenty of hard punches during the round that were clearly helping to wear him down. I just don't see how he came close to winning that with his pitter-pats, which were increasingly losing steam.

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:17
by Baby Face Finster
punchoutsb wrote:
fergusg wrote:That was an exciting fight, but Golovkin was sloppy compared to his usually exceptional standards... and let's not kid ourselves into believing that Willie Monroe Jr. was a world-class 160lb-er, because he simply wasn't.

That being said, an apparently sloppy and unmotivated GGG is still head and shoulders above the rest of the 160lb division. It's just a shame that K2 and HBO won't give him big paydays or allow him to demonstrate his supreme talent by funding a big super-fight, because the men he's facing are almost always second-tier (at best), barring one or two exceptions. :TU:
I don't think he looked sloppy at all...

I think he purposefully was letting Monroe hit him. FWIW, he "confirmed" that in the post fight interview.
Exactly. He knew Munroe couldn't hurt him so he went into stalk mode.

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:20
by Impractical Poster
fergusg wrote:That was an exciting fight, but Golovkin was sloppy compared to his usually exceptional standards... and let's not kid ourselves into believing that Willie Monroe Jr. was a world-class 160lb-er, because he simply wasn't.

That being said, an apparently sloppy and unmotivated GGG is still head and shoulders above the rest of the 160lb division. It's just a shame that K2 and HBO won't give him big paydays or allow him to demonstrate his supreme talent by funding a big super-fight, because the men he's facing are almost always second-tier (at best), barring one or two exceptions. :TU:
I believe he was sloppy because he was completely going for it. he showed in the first that he was the better boxer. This is something I have noticed form G and that he did with Maclin as well. He started out outboxing them, then when he feels that he has nothing to worry about, he goes for it full throttle. he is the man.

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:20
by Tanzio
Ok strategy v Monroe junior but against the best that will get you in trouble.

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:21
by Baby Face Finster
Tanzio wrote:Ok strategy v Monroe junior but against the best that will get you in trouble.
And who is the best?

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:23
by Impractical Poster
Tanzio wrote:Ok strategy v Monroe junior but against the best that will get you in trouble.
I'm sure he will adjust his strategy according to the opponent in front of him. he boxed beautifully in the first round.

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:24
by Impractical Poster
Baby Face Finster wrote:
Tanzio wrote:Ok strategy v Monroe junior but against the best that will get you in trouble.
And who is the best?
If he fights himself, it will get him in trouble.

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:25
by Impractical Poster
fergusg wrote:Golovkin is much better than what he showed tonight... and he allowed a sub-standard opponent to be very briefly competitive, when he should have been stopped a round or two earlier.
Sub-standard?

Anyhow, he gave the fans what they wanted. This type of fight may open up opportunities for him.

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:27
by ikorolev
Impractical Poster wrote:
Baby Face Finster wrote:
Tanzio wrote:Ok strategy v Monroe junior but against the best that will get you in trouble.
And who is the best?
If he fights himself, it will get him in trouble.
That shadow can kick his ass too :lol: ... "but not next" :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:27
by Calamity James
Yeah GGG was boxing with future business in mind tonight.

It's still not enough to make him attractive in any way to Canelo or Cotto

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:28
by Freedom2013
ikorolev wrote:People in California are booing when Ward is mentioned !
They booed hard too. A Kazakh who has only been fighting in the US for like two and a half years or something is not only selling more tickets than Ward in his home country, but he's doing it in his home state and the locals are booing Ward heartily too.

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:28
by Tarkus
This fight nicely showed that scoring rounds solely on the punches landed is wrong. Even in 3rd and 4th when Monroe perhaps landed more, it was GGG who was landing power. You saw the result in the sixth.

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:30
by Impractical Poster
Tarkus wrote:This fight nicely showed that scoring rounds solely on the punches landed is wrong. Even in 3rd and 4th when Monroe perhaps landed more, it was GGG who was landing power. You saw the result in the sixth.
I gave Monroe the 4th though.

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:35
by Calamity James
In fairness to Monroe, he landed some pretty crisp punches that snapped Golovkin's head back in the 4th round. He just about edged this one for me

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:36
by Baby Face Finster
fergusg wrote:Golovkin is much better than what he showed tonight... and he allowed a sub-standard opponent to be very briefly competitive, when he should have been stopped a round or two earlier.
Talk about nitpicking. So because he didn't stop him a round or two earlier then it was a disappointment? Keep on hating hater.

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:39
by Boxing Writer
crusader wrote:$1.5 million isn't a big payday?
I think it's really good payday against a guy like Monroe. There are only few fighters, who would get more money against similar opponent - Floyd, Manny, Wlad, Cotto and Canelo. And GGG gets paid more with every next fight, so not bad at all.

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:39
by ikorolev
fergusg wrote:Golovkin is much better than what he showed tonight... and he allowed a sub-standard opponent to be very briefly competitive, when he should have been stopped a round or two earlier.
He said that he didn't want to finish the fight in 5 minutes, because people came to watch him and he wanted to give them a show.

Re: GGG card

Posted: 16 May 2015, 23:42
by crusader
Scores were 50-43 x2 and 49-44 GGG