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Posted: **21 May 2015, 11:52**

At first I thought Geale had a shot in this but after consideration...I don't.

Cotto very comfortably, by late stoppage or points. Geale just doesn't do anything well enough to make his size advantage a factor.

Posted: **29 May 2015, 20:49**

diddy wrote:
scottearley123456 wrote:I feel that geale is better than trout he has done more . How can someone be un athletic and have an amazing work rate and stamina?
Good Lord, is this that complicated to understand? If you think Geale is the same level of athlete as Trout you are blind or just dumb. Watch the Trout fight vs Cotto again. Trout had the plus athletic ability to keep Cotto at arm's distance and blunt his attacks with agility and movement. Now watch Daniel Geale fight, well, anyone. There is little agility or much in the way of plus level athleticism. I'm not saying Geale is a poor athlete but he's not the sort of athlete who can use agility to get himself out of trouble or blunt another guy's attacks via movement. Not to mention the Geale we have seen lately very little resembles the guy we saw years ago. He's taken massive beatings. Now Cotto isnt what he was either but he's still super aggressive and the punches flow better.

So what your saying is trout moves better. His athleticism relates to physical output not the quality of his movement. Athleticism. Geale has plenty. Check out Geale v mundine 2. Top gear all rounds bar maybe one.

Posted: **30 May 2015, 19:58**

Daniel Geale says Miguel Cotto is looking past him :

"I definitely think Miguel Cotto and his camp are looking past me. They have chosen me and bought me down a few pounds (160 to 157), and they think they're going to weaken me. So they're definitely looking past me, which is exciting for me."

Geale obviously intimating Cotto's focus might already be on Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez or Gennady Golovkin. Though I personally doubt Cotto will fight Golovkin.

Posted: **31 May 2015, 00:12**

diddy wrote:
jezzamundo wrote:The catchweight should make zero difference in this fight, especially now that Geale weighed 158lb 30 days before the fight. I don't think Geale has ever been a drainer, he's 5'10" and not particularly muscular, he really could have fought his career at 154lb if he had wanted to.
location: Western Australia

To be fair to Cotto this is nowhere near as Greeny's catchweights.

Posted: **31 May 2015, 00:51**

I'm going to shock everyone now - I'm going Geale on points.

I think this is a much more competitive fight than some people think it is and it wouldn't surprise me at all if Geale nicks it.

Posted: **31 May 2015, 02:17**

Geale by mid-rounds TKO

Posted: **31 May 2015, 09:35**

Ian1973 wrote:I'm going to shock everyone now - I'm going Geale on points.

I think this is a much more competitive fight than some people think it is and it wouldn't surprise me at all if Geale nicks it.

If Geale brings his balls into the ring, he can beat the midget.

Posted: **31 May 2015, 09:58**

I didn't realize this fight was at a CW,I've got to go with Cotto probably widely on points, I shouldn't think the size will be too much of an issue,Miguel is a strong guy,Geale is a technically sound fighter with some good wins and he's tough and durable despite the Golovkin blow out, I think he'll hear the final bell being used to being in there with legit MW's but Cotto is a better boxer and fighter than Daniel

Looking forward to seeing how Cotto does being in with a fit middleweight though

Posted: **31 May 2015, 10:56**

About half this board seems to think Geale will win. If that's really the case you all may want to think about getting rich at 5-1 odds eh?

Posted: **31 May 2015, 11:03**

scottearley123456 wrote:
diddy wrote:
scottearley123456 wrote:I feel that geale is better than trout he has done more . How can someone be un athletic and have an amazing work rate and stamina?
Good Lord, is this that complicated to understand? If you think Geale is the same level of athlete as Trout you are blind or just dumb. Watch the Trout fight vs Cotto again. Trout had the plus athletic ability to keep Cotto at arm's distance and blunt his attacks with agility and movement. Now watch Daniel Geale fight, well, anyone. There is little agility or much in the way of plus level athleticism. I'm not saying Geale is a poor athlete but he's not the sort of athlete who can use agility to get himself out of trouble or blunt another guy's attacks via movement. Not to mention the Geale we have seen lately very little resembles the guy we saw years ago. He's taken massive beatings. Now Cotto isnt what he was either but he's still super aggressive and the punches flow better.

So what your saying is trout moves better. His athleticism relates to physical output not the quality of his movement. Athleticism. Geale has plenty. Check out Geale v mundine 2. Top gear all rounds bar maybe one.

I don't think you know what an athletic person even is. Maybe agility is a better adjective to make you better understand. Have you watched an NBA game? Those are the true definition of athletes with amazing agility. Geale isn't gonna be able to keep Cotto off him. He's not at that level of Mayweather or Pacquaio in the speed or elusive dept. Or Trout. I can't believe I have to actually explain to a boxing fan what a high level athlete is.

#Agility

Posted: **31 May 2015, 11:20**

diddy wrote:About half this board seems to think Geale will win. If that's really the case you all may want to think about getting rich at 5-1 odds eh?

Does 15 out of 50 look like a half to you. It seems to be less than 1/3 to me. 2.3-1 is more realistic than 5-1.

Posted: **31 May 2015, 12:07**

ikorolev wrote:
diddy wrote:About half this board seems to think Geale will win. If that's really the case you all may want to think about getting rich at 5-1 odds eh?
Does 15 out of 50 look like a half to you. It seems to be less than 1/3 to me. 2.3-1 is more realistic than 5-1.

15 out of 50 is an awful lot for a 5-1 dog, no? More than anything it probably speaks to the domestic bias that persists on this board so perhaps it should be taken with a grain of salt. I'm amazed of the number of people who think Daniel Geale is more than just a decent fighter.

Posted: **01 Jun 2015, 10:39**

Have 7-day weights been published ?

Posted: **01 Jun 2015, 10:45**

diddy wrote:
ikorolev wrote:
diddy wrote:About half this board seems to think Geale will win. If that's really the case you all may want to think about getting rich at 5-1 odds eh?
Does 15 out of 50 look like a half to you. It seems to be less than 1/3 to me. 2.3-1 is more realistic than 5-1.
15 out of 50 is an awful lot for a 5-1 dog, no? More than anything it probably speaks to the domestic bias that persists on this board so perhaps it should be taken with a grain of salt. I'm amazed of the number of people who think Daniel Geale is more than just a decent fighter.

Gambling is illegal where I live, and I don't gamble even when I am in places where it's legal. That doesn't mean I don't believe Geale will win most of the rounds in this fight.

Posted: **01 Jun 2015, 10:52**

A lot of things are "illegal". Do you not partake in any of them? Hell, speeding is illegal. Do you not do that either?

Posted: **01 Jun 2015, 11:31**

diddy wrote:I'm amazed of the number of people who think Daniel Geale is more than just a decent fighter.

I'm amazed of the number of people who think Cotto is more than just a decent fighter at 160 or even at 154.

Posted: **01 Jun 2015, 14:53**

Reportedly, HBO only signed off on this unwanted fight as long as Cotto promised to face Canelo in September.

Don't know what a promise is worth, but apparently the HBO honchos were satisfied with Cotto's response.

So basically this is just a tuneup for the Puerto Rican. Geale will go rounds, maybe even the distance but Cotto is expected to win clearly.

Lot of love for Geale here, but that's expected on this site. Cotto has been a great fighter for more than a decade. He might not be a great middleweight, but he's head and shoulders above Geale, who's accomplishments are limited in comparison.

Should be a fairly routine victory for Cotto, and then it's on to September for his Mexican Independence Day showdown with Canelo.

Posted: **01 Jun 2015, 15:20**

Here is a 10-minute interview with Geale:

http://www.BS.com/video-daniel ... tto--91754?

I wish he would sound more confident. He is saying right things, but doesn't sound very optimistic.

Posted: **01 Jun 2015, 17:16**

ikorolev wrote:
diddy wrote:I'm amazed of the number of people who think Daniel Geale is more than just a decent fighter.
I'm amazed of the number of people who think Cotto is more than just a decent fighter at 160 or even at 154.

He's better than Geale. That's all he needs to be for this fight. That's why Geale was hand picked.

Posted: **01 Jun 2015, 17:17**

diddy wrote:
ikorolev wrote:
diddy wrote:I'm amazed of the number of people who think Daniel Geale is more than just a decent fighter.
I'm amazed of the number of people who think Cotto is more than just a decent fighter at 160 or even at 154.
He's better than Geale. That's all he needs to be for this fight. That's why Geale was hand picked.

The Geale was handpicked, because they think that he is shot. I hope they are wrong.

Posted: **01 Jun 2015, 23:48**

This is an interesting fight.

Reports are that Geale is having trouble weight - so it's looking like he might be weight-drained. He's 167.5 while Cotto is 163.6.

http://www.BS.com/seven-day-we ... 675--91766

The catch weight is 157.

Posted: **01 Jun 2015, 23:58**

ikorolev wrote:
diddy wrote:I'm amazed of the number of people who think Daniel Geale is more than just a decent fighter.
I'm amazed of the number of people who think Cotto is more than just a decent fighter at 160 or even at 154.

Why is he "decent." he's an ex world champ who lost to Mundine & Barker (controversally & a close bout) got Ko'd by GGG who has done basically the same to everyone. I would say Geale is well above decent at Middleweight. As for Cotto, he hasnt shown anything yet to say he is a level above Geale at middleweight. This is probably why so many people are very interested in this match up and believe it to be a good contest. Dont use geographical location of those on this forum fool you. Cotto has not set the world on fire as of late and geale is not a shot fighter.

Posted: **02 Jun 2015, 00:09**

Losing to Mundine isn't exactly a badge of honor. Mundine lost to Garth Wood for F sake. And got taken to the woodshed in Oz by a guy - Clottey, who throws like 9 punches a round.

I forgot Darren Barker was the measuring stick of a good fighter?

#YouAreReaching
#StopBeingABlindHomer

Posted: **02 Jun 2015, 00:09**

Freedom2013 wrote:This is an interesting fight.

Reports are that Geale is having trouble weight - so it's looking like he might be weight-drained. He's 167.5 while Cotto is 163.6.

http://www.BS.com/seven-day-we ... 675--91766

The catch weight is 157.

Not a good sign. Geale looks even more unathletic in the picture than usual, while he is 10.5 pounds away from the target weight. It probably means that he doesn't really believe in himself or even that the fight is fixed.

Posted: **02 Jun 2015, 01:12**

I heard Cotto is adamant if Geale doesn't make 157 pounds there will be no fight

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