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Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 03 Jul 2015, 08:25
by Boxerbeetle
reggaereggae wrote:Joe Bugner Snr vs Joe Bugner Jnr.
They were both active at the same time at one point.
Hmmmm, good point, I wonder how many father/son fights would have been competitive?
Joe Frazier vs Marvis Frazier ?
Chris Eubank Snr vs Chris Eubank Jnr ?
Floyd Mayweather Snr vs Floyd Mayweather Jnr ?
And so on.
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 03 Jul 2015, 08:41
by Dixonian
witherspoon wrote:I've got to add my voice to those who would have wanted to see Herol Graham take a belt.
I would like to have seen Riddick Bowe beat Lewis in the early '90's, and lose a 3-4 fight series over 10 years that would have enhanced both mens legacies.
I wish Pernell had been given the decision against De La Hoya.
I would like to have seen Naazim Richards in Cotto's corner the first time he fought Margarito.
Somebody said 'Holmes to land that uppercut before Tyson knocked him out'.
I wonder, if Holmes had held Tyson off long enough to shake off the rust, how would that fight have panned out??? We saw what Holmes was still capable of years later and Tyson was doing some serious whining to Kevin Rooney between rounds before he found Holmes' temple with that right hand.
I remember Holmes getting up on his toes popping the jab and dancing around the ring for about a minute and Tyson couldn't get close to him. Of course, old Larry soon slowed down to a standstill and that's when Tyson got him.
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 04 Jul 2015, 19:49
by misterpunch
loved to have seen brodie win a world belt.
johnny owen fulfil his potential
weigh-ins on the same day as the fight
kevin lear fulfil his potential
gavin rees pull out a dream punch in the 1st round against broner
all fighters walking away with their pay packets with big smiles
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 04 Jul 2015, 20:00
by crusader
Boxerbeetle wrote:reggaereggae wrote:Joe Bugner Snr vs Joe Bugner Jnr.
They were both active at the same time at one point.
Hmmmm, good point, I wonder how many father/son fights would have been competitive?
Joe Frazier vs Marvis Frazier ?
Chris Eubank Snr vs Chris Eubank Jnr ?
Floyd Mayweather Snr vs Floyd Mayweather Jnr ?
And so on.
I'd still favor Oliver McCall over his son, who ironically seems to have a poor chin.
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 04:27
by jamesmcdonnell
Terminator666 wrote:Ali v Foreman 2
Tyson v Foreman
Mayweather v Alvarez at 154 pounds
Leonard v Lalonde with Lalonde at 175 for one weight division title
Mayweather v GGG
Tyson v Foreman was very close to being signed at one point - and according to sources I used to have when I was writing about boxing (their names escape me now) - who had no discernible reason to lie - Tyson absolutely point blank refused to fight Foreman - apparently he said something along the lines of.
"You think he's some big cuddly old guy - but that guy is a killer - there's no way I'm fighting him."
It kind of makes sense, Tyson was a real boxing historian - and George's reputation probably had him in awe, despite the fact George wasn't that guy any more - but also, Tyson was no longer at his peak at that time either - and it is just possible George would have weathered that Early assault, and broken Mike's heart.
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 05:42
by mike john
would have liked to have seen tyson against tua sometime between 99 and 01
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 06:24
by jamesmcdonnell
mike john wrote:would have liked to have seen tyson against tua sometime between 99 and 01
Christ, you're a sadist aren't you.
That would have been pretty brutal. Tua was one hell of a puncher, and had a great chin.
The peak version of Tyson would have taken him apart - too quick and too agile - but the latter day version was more hittable, and more orthodox is his approach. Could have been a defeat for Mike, as Tua would not have been bombed out of there quickly, and would have been hitting back hard. Mike was always an 'on-top' guy, who never was able to rebound once a fight turned against him.
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 06:55
by davie
Boxerbeetle wrote:reggaereggae wrote:Joe Bugner Snr vs Joe Bugner Jnr.
They were both active at the same time at one point.
Hmmmm, good point, I wonder how many father/son fights would have been competitive?
Joe Frazier vs Marvis Frazier ?
Joe takes him out, not competitive
Chris Eubank Snr vs Chris Eubank Jnr ?
Yet to prove it, But Jr could reach the level his dad was at. But snr for me right now in a competitive fight.
Floyd Mayweather Snr vs Floyd Mayweather Jnr ?
Jnr by a country mile, not even remotelly competitive
And so on.
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 07:00
by Crease
Loftgroov wrote:Eubank, Benn, Watson, RJJ, Toney, McClellen - a round robin Super Six
Agreed. Could you imagine a fantasy British/Irish Super Middleweight Super Six?
Eubank, Benn, Collins, Froch, Calzaghe - hell I would settle for them five facing off... But I suppose we could throw in Robin Reid or Richie Woodhall, Maybe even Glenn Catley.
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 09:37
by hitman_hatton1
misterpunch wrote:loved to have seen brodie win a world belt.
wbf baby.
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 09:41
by jamesmcdonnell
Crease wrote:Loftgroov wrote:Eubank, Benn, Watson, RJJ, Toney, McClellen - a round robin Super Six
Agreed. Could you imagine a fantasy British/Irish Super Middleweight Super Six?
Eubank, Benn, Collins, Froch, Calzaghe - hell I would settle for them five facing off... But I suppose we could throw in Robin Reid or Richie Woodhall, Maybe even Glenn Catley.
Reid v Benn and Eubank would have been intriguing.
Always felt Robin was a bit unfortunate - he ran Calzaghe very close, but was never really able to secure any big fights after that, he was a smart boxer with a good dig, and a very very good dig. I was gutted that both the ref and judges shafted him against Ottke - he won the fight hands down, even with the terrible officiating. He was close to getting DQ'd despite not fouling Ottke once. If I was him I would have knocked the ref out, cheating bent scumbag.
By the time Reid got to Lacy, he was inactive, and no longer in love with the sport.
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 10:06
by bennie
I would like to have seen Muhammad Ali get out after Foreman.
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 12:01
by jamesmcdonnell
bennie wrote:I would like to have seen Muhammad Ali get out after Foreman.
Yes, the remainder of his life might have been very different indeed.
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 12:18
by olij999
A motivated and trained Kirkland Laing against Milton McCrory or Donald Curry in the first half of 1983 for the WBC or WBA welter titles respectively, or against Marlon Starling or Maurice Blocker in 1990 for the WBC. And definitely Laing v Honeyghan while Honeyghan was world champ! But I know those are merely pipe dreams...
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 13:05
by tobyh5
"Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?"
Some of the gobshites here getting in the ring and finding out what it is really like
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 13:38
by misterpunch
this
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 14:09
by Rexob
tobyh5 wrote:"Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?"
Some of the gobshites here getting in the ring and finding out what it is really like
Why? what would this prove? If anything, it would make the "Gobshites " worse not better?
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 18:47
by Tomasino
Holyfield fighting and beating a peak Tyson
Bowe Vs Lewis, I reckon Bowe wins at that time
Salvador Sanchez survive his crash and going on to greatness
Tony Ayala getting the shit beat out of him by a world class opponent.
Naz vs Juan Manuel Marquez
Hagler rematch Leonard
Leonard rematch Hearns immediately
Duran get disqualified vs Ken Buchanan
Benn get stopped early vs Gerald McClellan
Corrupt refs and judges exposed and sacked (too many to list)
Taylor to win against Chavez instead of being stopped.
Joe Louis to have been born in 1980 ish
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 02:12
by tobyh5
Rexob wrote:tobyh5 wrote:"Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?"
Some of the gobshites here getting in the ring and finding out what it is really like
Why? what would this prove? If anything, it would make the "Gobshites " worse not better?
Good point, but least they may learn a little appreciation of the game and not be so outright critical as they start to respect fighting men a little more.
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 13:11
by reggaereggae
crusader wrote:Boxerbeetle wrote:reggaereggae wrote:Joe Bugner Snr vs Joe Bugner Jnr.
They were both active at the same time at one point.
Hmmmm, good point, I wonder how many father/son fights would have been competitive?
Joe Frazier vs Marvis Frazier ?
Chris Eubank Snr vs Chris Eubank Jnr ?
Floyd Mayweather Snr vs Floyd Mayweather Jnr ?
And so on.
I'd still favor Oliver McCall over his son, who ironically seems to have a poor chin.
Yeah I agree. With these Dad vs Son fights, the intersting question is at what parallel point would they have been competitive. Due to age differences there has to be a point.
Eg Floyd Mayweather Snr would at some point have beaten his dad. Even if it was only when Floyd was 14.
Or you can go really freaky - Roberto Duran vs his daughter, now?
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 08 Jul 2015, 01:00
by bennie
Joe Frazier against Marvin would have been over in 30 seconds, including the count.
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 08 Jul 2015, 02:49
by Supremo
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 08 Jul 2015, 06:18
by brian13
Gatti / Corales
Stupid politics not getting in the way of good domestic & Ireland / England fights.
Football and Boxing staying well apart from each other.
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 08 Jul 2015, 06:59
by Boxerbeetle
To be fair, I'd say 95% of the posters on the B&I board show the correct amount of respect for both the sport in general & the boxers who have competed.
But I'd definitely agree that a good number of the regular CS posters deserve to face Wlad in a 12 rounder.
Re: Things you would have liked to have seen in boxing?
Posted: 08 Jul 2015, 07:03
by mike john
like to have seen Dean Francis' and Scott Dann's careers progress injury free