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You would've thought with Mayweather leading the way in drug testing that he wouldve avoided giving a drug cheat a payday

Floyd received so much flack after beating Pacquiao. Surely, even Floyd, who says he fights for himself, must have been a little disturbed that after winning the fight everyone was calling for, he was mostly criticized because the fight was not very exciting. Berto is an explosive fighter, but also defensively vulnerable and more predictable than Pacman, and thus could give Floyd an opportunity to showcase more offense while still maintaining control of the fight.

This is Floyd's big F-U to all his fans.

IKSRTFO wrote:

Badhusker wrote:
Berto is the #1 WBA contender, coming off a win over Jositio Lopez, who was good enough opponent for Canelo among others. His hatred of Floyd and rededication under Hunter should make it interesting at least. I would have preferred Brook or Thurman or Bradley. Hopefully it is more competitive than Floyd's last fight.

And Lara is the WBA 154lb champion? Why isn't he being considered?

Lol, your obvious hatred of Floyd has you frothing at the mouth because he didn't pick Lara?

LaraEven though I thought lara won, he struggled badly with Canelo, so the difference in skill level is pretty evident.

This fight is not ideal, but when you are pushing 40, beat the top guys over 19 years, you earn the right to pick who you want. He is guaranteed a minimum of $32,000,000 no matter who he fights. Would you do any different? Fighting a #1 contender is worthy of harsh criticism for a guy Floyd's age?
Go ahead, boycott the fight.

By the way, has anyone heard if the Floyd vs Berto fight has been confirmed yet. I know we all ass/u/me it is.......

I will believe it when I hear it from Floyd.

The double standard by some folks is absolutely astonishing.

We have a heavyweight champ who has fought nothing but stiffs the last decade, and is getting ready to fight yet another one; that is met with fanboys licking their chops and rubbing their hands together in anticipation.

We had a guy some thought was the best in the world (til he actually stepped into the ring with the best in the world) not once, BUT TWICE in a calendar year select a guy for a PPV fight that was in a lower weight class, not ranked for the belt he was trying to take from the great, and fighting in that weight class for basically the first time...and most of his fanboys were fine with it, tho thank God they didn't actually pay for that crap.

So now, the greatest fighter of our era, still hearing the boos because of the clinic he ran on the guy that was supposed to be so much trouble, decides to take a similar easy fight like the aforementioned and what happens?

Fanboys wet their panties in a huge hatefest that isn't even mitigated by the fact that the great isnt going to make them pay a thin dime for it.
What's worse, is that in comparison to some of the stiffs selected by his contemporaries, the guy selected by the great is actually a decent fighter who is always in exciting fights, and is definitely not going to be fighting at welter for the 1st time. He is coming off of a KO of another very good but not great guy (who also would have been a decent choice for the last fight had he won).

If you had no problem with Rios and Algieri, Leapai and Pulev; if you have no current problem with Tyson Fury getting a shot at the heavyweight crown, then shut up about Berto and let the man try to take his victory lap.

One thing about Berto tho. If he can catch up to you, he can hurt you. And I would bet money on Andre against Rios and Algieri. Easy.

koolkc107 wrote:The double standard by some folks is absolutely astonishing.

We have a heavyweight champ who has fought nothing but stiffs the last decade, and is getting ready to fight yet another one; that is met with fanboys licking their chops and rubbing their hands together in anticipation.

We had a guy some thought was the best in the world (til he actually stepped into the ring with the best in the world) not once, BUT TWICE in a calendar year select a guy for a PPV fight that was in a lower weight class, not ranked for the belt he was trying to take from the great, and fighting in that weight class for basically the first time...and most of his fanboys were fine with it, tho thank God they didn't actually pay for that crap.

So now, the greatest fighter of our era, still hearing the boos because of the clinic he ran on the guy that was supposed to be so much trouble, decides to take a similar easy fight like the aforementioned and what happens?

Fanboys wet their panties in a huge hatefest that isn't even mitigated by the fact that the great isnt going to make them pay a thin dime for it.
What's worse, is that in comparison to some of the stiffs selected by his contemporaries, the guy selected by the great is actually a decent fighter who is always in exciting fights, and is definitely not going to be fighting at welter for the 1st time. He is coming off of a KO of another very good but not great guy (who also would have been a decent choice for the last fight had he won).

If you had no problem with Rios and Algieri, Leapai and Pulev; if you have no current problem with Tyson Fury getting a shot at the heavyweight crown, then shut up about Berto and let the man try to take his victory lap.

One thing about Berto tho. If he can catch up to you, he can hurt you. And I would bet money on Andre against Rios and Algieri. Easy.

Great post!

Wait, actually no, that post sucked.

People constantly bitch and moan about Klitschko, who has not missed one top contender during his current reign. He's not fighting stiffs, he's fighting the best available contenders.

People also complained about Manny taking on Rios and Algieri.

Pulev and Fury are top contenders for the heavyweight title, why would anyone have a problem with them getting the fight? The only problem people have with Berto is that Floyd is the overwhelming number one fighter on the planet, so it's more his p4p status at stake than any sort of paper titles.

punchoutsb wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:The double standard by some folks is absolutely astonishing.

We have a heavyweight champ who has fought nothing but stiffs the last decade, and is getting ready to fight yet another one; that is met with fanboys licking their chops and rubbing their hands together in anticipation.

We had a guy some thought was the best in the world (til he actually stepped into the ring with the best in the world) not once, BUT TWICE in a calendar year select a guy for a PPV fight that was in a lower weight class, not ranked for the belt he was trying to take from the great, and fighting in that weight class for basically the first time...and most of his fanboys were fine with it, tho thank God they didn't actually pay for that crap.

So now, the greatest fighter of our era, still hearing the boos because of the clinic he ran on the guy that was supposed to be so much trouble, decides to take a similar easy fight like the aforementioned and what happens?

Fanboys wet their panties in a huge hatefest that isn't even mitigated by the fact that the great isnt going to make them pay a thin dime for it.
What's worse, is that in comparison to some of the stiffs selected by his contemporaries, the guy selected by the great is actually a decent fighter who is always in exciting fights, and is definitely not going to be fighting at welter for the 1st time. He is coming off of a KO of another very good but not great guy (who also would have been a decent choice for the last fight had he won).

If you had no problem with Rios and Algieri, Leapai and Pulev; if you have no current problem with Tyson Fury getting a shot at the heavyweight crown, then shut up about Berto and let the man try to take his victory lap.

One thing about Berto tho. If he can catch up to you, he can hurt you. And I would bet money on Andre against Rios and Algieri. Easy.

Great post!

Wait, actually no, that post sucked.

People constantly bitch and moan about Klitschko, who has not missed one top contender during his current reign. He's not fighting stiffs, he's fighting the best available contenders.

People also complained about Manny taking on Rios and Algieri.

Pulev and Fury are top contenders for the heavyweight title, why would anyone have a problem with them getting the fight? The only problem people have with Berto is that Floyd is the overwhelming number one fighter on the planet, so it's more his p4p status at stake than any sort of paper titles.

Well, actually, there are literally a fistful of guys out there Wlad needs to fight but isn't. And if you are going to give me that "he fights the top contenders" crap without one mention of HOW most of those guys came to be ranked at the top, then I'd just rather leave this at you thinking you are right even if you aren't.

No argument from me.

Yes, folks did say some things about Rios and Algieri. But even though news of Berto is just filtering out, the tenor of the response seems a bit more vicious. And the funny part is Berto is a more legit opponent at 147 than Algieri and Rios combined.

I understand why folks dislike Floyd. But some of the hateration makes no good sense. Like now.

koolkc107 wrote:The double standard by some folks is absolutely astonishing.

We have a heavyweight champ who has fought nothing but stiffs the last decade, and is getting ready to fight yet another one; that is met with fanboys licking their chops and rubbing their hands together in anticipation.

We had a guy some thought was the best in the world (til he actually stepped into the ring with the best in the world) not once, BUT TWICE in a calendar year select a guy for a PPV fight that was in a lower weight class, not ranked for the belt he was trying to take from the great, and fighting in that weight class for basically the first time...and most of his fanboys were fine with it, tho thank God they didn't actually pay for that crap.

So now, the greatest fighter of our era, still hearing the boos because of the clinic he ran on the guy that was supposed to be so much trouble, decides to take a similar easy fight like the aforementioned and what happens?

Fanboys wet their panties in a huge hatefest that isn't even mitigated by the fact that the great isnt going to make them pay a thin dime for it.
What's worse, is that in comparison to some of the stiffs selected by his contemporaries, the guy selected by the great is actually a decent fighter who is always in exciting fights, and is definitely not going to be fighting at welter for the 1st time. He is coming off of a KO of another very good but not great guy (who also would have been a decent choice for the last fight had he won).

If you had no problem with Rios and Algieri, Leapai and Pulev; if you have no current problem with Tyson Fury getting a shot at the heavyweight crown, then shut up about Berto and let the man try to take his victory lap.

One thing about Berto tho. If he can catch up to you, he can hurt you. And I would bet money on Andre against Rios and Algieri. Easy.

Assuming the sources are correct, the fight being on CBS is the sole redeeming point. Berto would not beat Rios or Algieri. The guy has T-Rex arms, is flat-footed, has no defense, low workrate, only has one dangerous punch, the short counter right hand, and has low ring IQ. He does have heart, fast hands, and if he can surprise you with the handspeed he can hurt you though ordinarily I'd say his power isn't especially impressive, but he's not the type of fighter that is willing to walk through punches(a la Maidana at times) and doesn't have the skills to work his way inside effectively against lower level guys, much less Floyd. Floyd can potshot Berto with the straight right hand all night without getting touched if he wants.

HitBattousai wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:The double standard by some folks is absolutely astonishing.

We have a heavyweight champ who has fought nothing but stiffs the last decade, and is getting ready to fight yet another one; that is met with fanboys licking their chops and rubbing their hands together in anticipation.

We had a guy some thought was the best in the world (til he actually stepped into the ring with the best in the world) not once, BUT TWICE in a calendar year select a guy for a PPV fight that was in a lower weight class, not ranked for the belt he was trying to take from the great, and fighting in that weight class for basically the first time...and most of his fanboys were fine with it, tho thank God they didn't actually pay for that crap.

So now, the greatest fighter of our era, still hearing the boos because of the clinic he ran on the guy that was supposed to be so much trouble, decides to take a similar easy fight like the aforementioned and what happens?

Fanboys wet their panties in a huge hatefest that isn't even mitigated by the fact that the great isnt going to make them pay a thin dime for it.
What's worse, is that in comparison to some of the stiffs selected by his contemporaries, the guy selected by the great is actually a decent fighter who is always in exciting fights, and is definitely not going to be fighting at welter for the 1st time. He is coming off of a KO of another very good but not great guy (who also would have been a decent choice for the last fight had he won).

If you had no problem with Rios and Algieri, Leapai and Pulev; if you have no current problem with Tyson Fury getting a shot at the heavyweight crown, then shut up about Berto and let the man try to take his victory lap.

One thing about Berto tho. If he can catch up to you, he can hurt you. And I would bet money on Andre against Rios and Algieri. Easy.

Assuming the sources are correct, the fight being on CBS is the sole redeeming point. Berto would not beat Rios or Algieri. The guy has T-Rex arms, is flat-footed, has no defense, low workrate, only has one dangerous punch, the short counter right hand, and has low ring IQ. He does have heart, fast hands, and if he can surprise you with the handspeed he can hurt you though ordinarily I'd say his power isn't especially impressive, but he's not the type of fighter that is willing to walk through punches(a la Maidana at times) and doesn't have the skills to work his way inside effectively against lower level guys, much less Floyd. Floyd can potshot Berto with the straight right hand all night without getting touched if he wants.

Of course Berto beats Algieri and Rios. He just KTFO another guy who would ALSO beat both Rios and Algieri in Lopez.

I don't thing Algieri stays vertical once Berto tags him right. And Andre is skilled enough to box circles around Rios with more than enough power to make Brandon respect him.

Easy wins both for Andre, even at his age.

koolkc107 wrote: Well, actually, there are literally a fistful of guys out there Wlad needs to fight but isn't. And if you are going to give me that "he fights the top contenders" crap without one mention of HOW most of those guys came to be ranked at the top, then I'd just rather leave this at you thinking you are right even if you aren't.

You'd best leave it because you know I'm right. Wlad has literally got to EVERY contender out there. Obviously there will constantly be new contenders replacing old, but as of now Wlad has not missed one. So get out of here with your "fistful of guys" crap. He'll get to them just like all the others. As for your top ten babble, they get ranked by corrupt orgs for beating crap opponents, just like almost every other fighter in every division...you know like how Andre Berto is number 1 with the WBA

koolkc107 wrote: Yes, folks did say some things about Rios and Algieri. But even though news of Berto is just filtering out, the tenor of the response seems a bit more vicious. And the funny part is Berto is a more legit opponent at 147 than Algieri and Rios combined.

I understand why folks dislike Floyd. But some of the hateration makes no good sense. Like now.

Well at least you've instantly backtracked and removed your mythical double standard. There's hope yet.

I am absolutely 100% fine with Floyd fighting anybody in his last fight, and the fact its on TV will be amazing. But don't expect that from everyone. Floyd literally built his career on being hated. Why on earth would he or anyone else expect that to change now?

The only thing I'm noticing about this is that the handful of fanboys and haters constantly change there story. Guys like brut (sorry man, but you're the number one fanboy so I gotta name you) were saying they'd be fine with Cotto or Canelo rather than GGG because Floyd needs money and his legacy yadda yadda yah. Now those same guys are like, no Berto is totally cool because Floyd will still get pain and he's earned a break. The guys that drink out of Floyd jock are just as bad as the haters that would be ridiculing his choice to fight Ward at 175 in his final fight.

Whether you like him or hate him, there is no way to justify this fight happening, those other fights were wrong just as this one is, the difference is those fighters havent tagged themselves TBE

koolkc107 wrote: Of course Berto beats Algieri and Rios. He just KTFO another guy who would ALSO beat both Rios and Algieri in Lopez.

I don't thing Algieri stays vertical once Berto tags him right. And Andre is skilled enough to box circles around Rios with more than enough power to make Brandon respect him.

Easy wins both for Andre, even at his age.

gtfo troll

Its amazing how much the persona of floyds fans resemble their idol...

so anyway, matches like this are why we all really like the little guys who actually fight each other, right?

take Segura for example. dude got his face smashed in by Viloria and went on and fought Sosa, Marquez and Estrada.

that's why we love 'em.

koolkc107 wrote:

HitBattousai wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:The double standard by some folks is absolutely astonishing.

We have a heavyweight champ who has fought nothing but stiffs the last decade, and is getting ready to fight yet another one; that is met with fanboys licking their chops and rubbing their hands together in anticipation.

We had a guy some thought was the best in the world (til he actually stepped into the ring with the best in the world) not once, BUT TWICE in a calendar year select a guy for a PPV fight that was in a lower weight class, not ranked for the belt he was trying to take from the great, and fighting in that weight class for basically the first time...and most of his fanboys were fine with it, tho thank God they didn't actually pay for that crap.

So now, the greatest fighter of our era, still hearing the boos because of the clinic he ran on the guy that was supposed to be so much trouble, decides to take a similar easy fight like the aforementioned and what happens?

Fanboys wet their panties in a huge hatefest that isn't even mitigated by the fact that the great isnt going to make them pay a thin dime for it.
What's worse, is that in comparison to some of the stiffs selected by his contemporaries, the guy selected by the great is actually a decent fighter who is always in exciting fights, and is definitely not going to be fighting at welter for the 1st time. He is coming off of a KO of another very good but not great guy (who also would have been a decent choice for the last fight had he won).

If you had no problem with Rios and Algieri, Leapai and Pulev; if you have no current problem with Tyson Fury getting a shot at the heavyweight crown, then shut up about Berto and let the man try to take his victory lap.

One thing about Berto tho. If he can catch up to you, he can hurt you. And I would bet money on Andre against Rios and Algieri. Easy.

Assuming the sources are correct, the fight being on CBS is the sole redeeming point. Berto would not beat Rios or Algieri. The guy has T-Rex arms, is flat-footed, has no defense, low workrate, only has one dangerous punch, the short counter right hand, and has low ring IQ. He does have heart, fast hands, and if he can surprise you with the handspeed he can hurt you though ordinarily I'd say his power isn't especially impressive, but he's not the type of fighter that is willing to walk through punches(a la Maidana at times) and doesn't have the skills to work his way inside effectively against lower level guys, much less Floyd. Floyd can potshot Berto with the straight right hand all night without getting touched if he wants.

Of course Berto beats Algieri and Rios. He just KTFO another guy who would ALSO beat both Rios and Algieri in Lopez.

I don't thing Algieri stays vertical once Berto tags him right. And Andre is skilled enough to box circles around Rios with more than enough power to make Brandon respect him.

Easy wins both for Andre, even at his age.

We're talking about a guy who lost to Soto Karrass

Pureist wrote:Whether you like him or hate him, there is no way to justify this fight happening, those other fights were wrong just as this one is, the difference is those fighters havent tagged themselves TBE

Regardless of who the opponent is he is facing it's FREE, LeBron, Jordan, Rousey and all other top elite sports figures will never be able to say they are giving it to you for free.

Hate on you pathetic little clown Haters.

KBB wrote:Regardless of who the opponent is he is facing it's FREE, LeBron, Jordan, Rousey and all other top elite sports figures will never be able to say they are giving it to you for free.

Hate on you pathetic little clown Haters.

WTF are you talking about? Basketball is about as free on TV as you can get. Especially in Jordan's era.

IKSRTFO wrote:

KBB wrote:Regardless of who the opponent is he is facing it's FREE, LeBron, Jordan, Rousey and all other top elite sports figures will never be able to say they are giving it to you for free.

Hate on you pathetic little clown Haters.

WTF are you talking about? Basketball is about as free on TV as you can get. Especially in Jordan's era.

If you go see the nba you will have to pay, you won't have to pay to see the fight live.

KBB, what do you think about this match-up? Other than it being free.

That would be funny if Mayweather lost to Berto.

KBB wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:

KBB wrote:Regardless of who the opponent is he is facing it's FREE, LeBron, Jordan, Rousey and all other top elite sports figures will never be able to say they are giving it to you for free.

Hate on you pathetic little clown Haters.

WTF are you talking about? Basketball is about as free on TV as you can get. Especially in Jordan's era.

If you go see the nba you will have to pay, you won't have to pay to see the fight live.

Are you an idiot? There's no way you won't have to pay to get into a Floyd fight or any fight for that matter. The only thing free is it's being shown on national TV which basketball, baseball, and football all have their national coverage.

I think Pacqiao should follow suit and give the fans his next fight free on TV, since he is at fault equally as much as Floyd for ripping fans off. More so actually be caused he lied about the injury.

punchoutsb wrote:

koolkc107 wrote: Well, actually, there are literally a fistful of guys out there Wlad needs to fight but isn't. And if you are going to give me that "he fights the top contenders" crap without one mention of HOW most of those guys came to be ranked at the top, then I'd just rather leave this at you thinking you are right even if you aren't.

You'd best leave it because you know I'm right. Wlad has literally got to EVERY contender out there. Obviously there will constantly be new contenders replacing old, but as of now Wlad has not missed one. So get out of here with your "fistful of guys" crap. He'll get to them just like all the others. As for your top ten babble, they get ranked by corrupt orgs for beating crap opponents, just like almost every other fighter in every division...you know like how Andre Berto is number 1 with the WBA

koolkc107 wrote: Yes, folks did say some things about Rios and Algieri. But even though news of Berto is just filtering out, the tenor of the response seems a bit more vicious. And the funny part is Berto is a more legit opponent at 147 than Algieri and Rios combined.

I understand why folks dislike Floyd. But some of the hateration makes no good sense. Like now.

Well at least you've instantly backtracked and removed your mythical double standard. There's hope yet.

I am absolutely 100% fine with Floyd fighting anybody in his last fight, and the fact its on TV will be amazing. But don't expect that from everyone. Floyd literally built his career on being hated. Why on earth would he or anyone else expect that to change now?

The only thing I'm noticing about this is that the handful of fanboys and haters constantly change there story. Guys like brut (sorry man, but you're the number one fanboy so I gotta name you) were saying they'd be fine with Cotto or Canelo rather than GGG because Floyd needs money and his legacy yadda yadda yah. Now those same guys are like, no Berto is totally cool because Floyd will still get pain and he's earned a break. The guys that drink out of Floyd jock are just as bad as the haters that would be ridiculing his choice to fight Ward at 175 in his final fight.

Backtracked from what? I said Wlad has fought nothing but stiffs the last decade.

True.

I said there are a fistful of guys out there he really should fight but isn't.

Also true.

And some of them he should have got to a long time ago.

He is fighting Tyson Fury next.

Tyson Fury.

Tyson "I nearly got KTFO by a cruiserweight and had to foul said cruiser with my forearms to get a KO" Fury.

So spare me on the "how great Wlad is" nonsense.

There is a double standard. Too many of the same folks who are fine with Wladimir's antics and Pac's farces are rushing to yell foul about this fight.

A fight involving an opponent who, in spite of all his faults, is actually a more credible opponent than half the guys Wlad and Pac have faced their last 4 or 5 fights...and Floyd is doing it FREE!

That is the hypocrisy I speak of.