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Olympic boxing is for kids? My god... And Fury would beat Price at the press conference!

mickey1975 wrote:Olympic boxing is for kids? My god... And Fury would beat Price at the press conference!

Kids as in guys around 20, yes. That's the point at which it is a fair test, because most go on to become pro shortly after that. The few who choose to stay in amateur until 28 clearly have a big advantage.

Trouble with Price is he would be avoided if he were to take some kind of gate keeper mantle. His right hand is way too dangerous and to much of a curve ball for an up & coming fighter being carefully matched by his promoter. In terms of chasing a big fight, his stock is at an all time low now and i'm not sure lining him up to face some more tomato cans is going to increase it, might just get him knocked out again.

Riddick Blowe wrote:

johnswan1 wrote:I'd still give him a shot against Fury because he wouldn't need to fight scared against him.

Fury doesn't have the power and isn't relentless enough to make Price panic. I think a fight between them would be more of a boxing match, with Price the harder hitter and Fury the better stamina. You would have thought Price's skills would be miles ahead of Fury given his amateur career but he simply has not progressed in terms of skills or tactics in the pro game whereas Fury has.

You're really saying Fury doesn't have the power to bother Price? I think Price would have been bothered by Chris Byrd.

It's hard to envisage a path for Price now, he'd have to have a long rehabilitation against a lot of tomato cans, but then what? As others have said, it's not just his chin but his defence, the guy is a sitting duck to anyone with B- level skills. I would favour Malik Scott to stop him...

Fury's style would not be to try to knock out a harder hitter than himself who could knock him out cold if he got too reckless.

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lillywhite14 wrote:

magwitch wrote:Completely out there wasn't he? I think we make a gigantic mental leap for mankind in this country......the ABA champ is a drop in the ocean, in a medium sized country in a division known for being an 'extremity' and so not a lot of strength in depth.....and we take ours and suppose that because he's a big strapping lad he might be the future heavyweight world champion.
Might as well find a big lion and suppose he's the hardest on the Serenghetti. I think too much time in the amateurs getting your ego massaged is NO GOOD for the deep end.
I also think all that best amateur in England year in year creates a bit of a blindspot.

It was the Olympic bronze that got people thinking Price could do something as a pro. Chuck in a commonwealth gold and 3 ABA titles and he is Britains 3rd best ever Super Heavy. He certainly wasn't your 'average' ABA super heavy champ.

Olympic/amateur boxing is really for kids and novices. If you stay in it until your late 20s, you are going to look better than you are. Audley being the prime example.

Eventually you end up fighting a bad man from America, or Russia or some place, who has walked in a room a few times where no-one gave a f*ck about him and his back was against the wall........when that time comes, I think it's better if you have done the same. Not, "oh, here comes the favourite from England".
The Commonwealth Games, what is the Commonwealth? A smallish group of countries that the UK "liberated" at some point once upon a time?

his jab in the Teper fight is shocking, hes similar to Audley in the way he has a very good reach yet paws the jab, he should be using that jab as a weapon.

What i wouldnt give to be 6feet 8 with an 82 inch reach and power to KO people with one punch, id be the nastiest, bastard on the planet, yet price is like a big teddy bear.

i dont even think his chin is that bad, majority of heavys who get hit flush will go down its a dangerous division, i just think he has no confidence in his ability

If he carries on he needs a top top trainer and to start a slow process getting some decent rounds in to help build his stamina, we all know he can knock out journeymen in one round

Rogers21 wrote:
i dont even think his chin is that bad, majority of heavys who get hit flush will go down its a dangerous division, i just think he has no confidence in his ability

Serious? Confidence matters but lack of confidence doesn't mean you fall over easier. His first stoppage defeat was a cuff around the ear that some people gave him the benefit of the doubt that his balance was affected. His second stoppage he was out of steam after 4 rounds and the last fight he was knocked out and left on the floor for several minutes from a rather innocuous hook. To be fair that doesn't bode well for his future.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Fuzzy Warbles wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Agreed, he just cannot take a shot .

He caught a few good cracks in the first and managed to stay upright so I don't think his chin is THAT bad. His biggest mistake on Friday was not throwing anything back to get the Teper's respect. If Price had thrown a decent jab (WHY is his jab so sh*te?) and whacked a few rights to the body (you could have parked a car in the space under Teper's elbows) Teper wouldn't have been able to get in range as easily and the outcome could have been completely different.

They were arm punches he caught early on - he shouldn't be going over from those. The one which put him over was hardly a howitzer was it?

I think Price is too tentative to extend the jab fully - it looks frigging stupid a man that size pawing away like a bear in a tickling contest.

Maybe it's too late now for Price but he should have sat down and watched larry holmes fights for a full month,his jab was once described as like being hit with a stick with a broken bottle on the end.

With those sorts of attributes mentioned above you want to be in the centre, making things happen. In that KO that I saw, he was in the cornerand a big bloke kind of ambles over and chins him
He should have been eating leather himself that German or wherever he was from.
Was it Sinam Samil Sam that KO'd Danny Williams once, or was it the other way round?

magwitch wrote:With those sorts of attributes mentioned above you want to be in the centre, making things happen. In that KO that I saw, he was in the cornerand a big bloke kind of ambles over and chins him
He should have been eating leather himself that German or wherever he was from.
Was it Sinam Samil Sam that KO'd Danny Williams once, or was it the other way round?

Sam KO'd Williams. Was a shocker that at the time, Williams was expected to do a number on him, but just got bludgeoned from pillar to post.

It was bizzare the way Price just allowed himself to be bullied into the corners - at no stage did he command the ring - even when he was firing shots. It had a look of inevitability from the first bell.

Riddick Blowe wrote:

johnswan1 wrote:I'd still give him a shot against Fury because he wouldn't need to fight scared against him.

Fury doesn't have the power and isn't relentless enough to make Price panic. I think a fight between them would be more of a boxing match, with Price the harder hitter and Fury the better stamina. You would have thought Price's skills would be miles ahead of Fury given his amateur career but he simply has not progressed in terms of skills or tactics in the pro game whereas Fury has.

You're really saying Fury doesn't have the power to bother Price? I think Price would have been bothered by Chris Byrd.

It's hard to envisage a path for Price now, he'd have to have a long rehabilitation against a lot of tomato cans, but then what? As others have said, it's not just his chin but his defence, the guy is a sitting duck to anyone with B- level skills. I would favour Malik Scott to stop him...

I reckon I could fart from the front row and knock Price over.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
I reckon I could fart from the front row and knock Price over.

Oh come on mate, thats taking it a bit too far isn't far. You need to be slightly closer than that.

Controversial wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
I reckon I could fart from the front row and knock Price over.

Oh come on mate, thats taking it a bit too far isn't far. You need to be slightly closer than that.

Depends what he had consumed throughout the day.

If he'd had an indian plus 7 or more guinness i reckon he could at the very least buckle prices knees from the first row with a good old fart.

I've had 4 egg Mayo sarnies and a litre of dandelion and burdock, just saying.

palooka wrote:I've had 4 egg Mayo sarnies and a litre of dandelion and burdock, just saying.

That would drop Oliver McCall

JimJim2009 wrote:

palooka wrote:I've had 4 egg Mayo sarnies and a litre of dandelion and burdock, just saying.

That would drop Oliver McCall

johnswan1 wrote:I'd still give him a shot against Fury because he wouldn't need to fight scared against him.

Fury doesn't have the power and isn't relentless enough to make Price panic. I think a fight between them would be more of a boxing match, with Price the harder hitter and Fury the better stamina. You would have thought Price's skills would be miles ahead of Fury given his amateur career but he simply has not progressed in terms of skills or tactics in the pro game whereas Fury has.

I kind of agree with that, but Fury's not daft, he'd pressure Price.

JimJim2009 wrote:

palooka wrote:I've had 4 egg Mayo sarnies and a litre of dandelion and burdock, just saying.

That would drop Oliver McCall

chiggsy wrote:

Controversial wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
I reckon I could fart from the front row and knock Price over.

Oh come on mate, thats taking it a bit too far isn't far. You need to be slightly closer than that.

Depends what he had consumed throughout the day.

If he'd had an indian plus 7 or more guinness i reckon he could at the very least buckle prices knees from the first row with a good old fart.

I eat a dead baby sandwich washed down with 6 bottles of thunderbirds.

Plenty of heavyweights have come back from KO defeats. Early in his career Henry Cooper lost 4 consecutive fights. Paradoxically having a weak chin can have its advantages. It means you don't take sustained punishment; which means you're less likely to suffer long-term health problems.Cooper is a good example.
Price could probably still earn good money but he's always going to be vulnerable. He was even as an amateur.

It's hard to say, personally, as my opinion is divided on the subject.

I have nothing really to add to the discussion, as I'm pretty much reiterating what everyone else has already stated. As mentioned, whether or not Price should retire depends on how much ambition he has left. If he is content with campaigning at domestic level, I have no issues with him continuing, as I can still quite easily see him cleaning up, with Fury moving on to world level (though I don't rate him, myself), and Joshua probably only a few fights away. Chisora would probably make life uncomfortable for Price but I can't help but think he'd walk into one at some point.

At a push, I could see Price making his way back to fringe European level, perhaps even claiming the EBU title against a less capable opponent. This is as far as he can go, I think, and I'm probably being somewhat generous. After the first Thompson loss (prior to learning of his stamina issues), I was of the opinion that he could regroup in a similar way to Wlad, by adopting a safety-first jab-and-grab style, but he obviously doesn't seem to have the conditioning to play the long game.

As I say, it's hard. Joshua and Fury aside, he's probably still far too good for British level, but the gulf between domestic and European level is considerable, let alone world level, and I suspect Price, with all the prior "heir apparent" hype, wouldn't be content with resigning himself to being merely a solid British title level fighter. Furthermore, I concur with everyone else that Price is very likable and seems to be one of the nicer guys in the sport, and certainly one of the last anyone would want to see hurt. He seems quite an intelligent and knowledgeable chap, I wouldn't mind seeing him more often as a pundit.

I think that he should concentrate on being Liverpools first giant danger mouse o gram - specialising in Nan's birthday parties.

There's a real threat to his health if he continues. He's a big guy and can make his own mind up but most observers know what's in the post if he carries on.

he should definitely carry on, but he should try and con his way to a world title shot rather than go the proper way. in other words, he should copy what tyson fury has done....

christian hammer, marius wach then possibly manuel charr..then he gets a shot at something, which he may or not win.

ryan rhodes got done over by jason matthews then lee blundell and ended up doing 12 with canelo so price doesnt have tio quit now. and for people worrying about his health...like someone said, it's not the big KOs that scramble your brains, it's the prolonged 12 round beatings.

veriton wrote:he should definitely carry on, but he should try and con his way to a world title shot rather than go the proper way. in other words, he should copy what tyson fury has done....

christian hammer, marius wach then possibly manuel charr..then he gets a shot at something, which he may or not win.

ryan rhodes got done over by jason matthews then lee blundell and ended up doing 12 with canelo so price doesnt have tio quit now. and for people worrying about his health...like someone said, it's not the big KOs that scramble your brains, it's the prolonged 12 round beatings.

You're confident he gets through those 3?

I'm not sure he beats any of them