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Pureist wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote:

convict wrote:Yeah a bit suspect, TAB were paying (Parker win by) $3 for a KO within first three rounds. Some one made some money .

Really $3 for a KO in the first 3 rounds when Bowie has never been KO'd in less than 5 by far more experienced pro's than Joseph. Not a blight on Joseph but Tupou took a dive IMO.

DA GOOSE wrote:It was a mismatch anyway. Parker's world class Bowie is just a journeyman. I haven't seen it yet. Did Parker say Tupou dogged it and wouldn't get payed a cent? Any DVD's being waved about today?

Maybe you could do a film study between this fight and greens and give your EXPERT opinion, listen to the thud when the right lands and how loud it is, that wasn't him stamping his foot on the mat

I will wait for you to give us your opinion once you have viewed it at 1/4 speed and the fact you're a boxing trainer. At least it will take less time than watching a 12 round fight at 1/4 speed.

Pureist wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote:

convict wrote:Yeah a bit suspect, TAB were paying (Parker win by) $3 for a KO within first three rounds. Some one made some money .

Really $3 for a KO in the first 3 rounds when Bowie has never been KO'd in less than 5 by far more experienced pro's than Joseph. Not a blight on Joseph but Tupou took a dive IMO.

DA GOOSE wrote:It was a mismatch anyway. Parker's world class Bowie is just a journeyman. I haven't seen it yet. Did Parker say Tupou dogged it and wouldn't get payed a cent? Any DVD's being waved about today?

Maybe you could do a film study between this fight and greens and give your EXPERT opinion, listen to the thud when the right lands and how loud it is, that wasn't him stamping his foot on the mat

Perhaps that's how Sam Soliman injured his knee? He was making the sound for a phantom blow by stamping his foot and stamped it off balance

Conspiracy theorists

DA GOOSE wrote:

convict wrote:Yeah a bit suspect, TAB were paying (Parker win by) $3 for a KO within first three rounds. Some one made some money .

Really $3 for a KO in the first 3 rounds when Bowie has never been KO'd in less than 5 by far more experienced pro's than Joseph. Not a blight on Joseph but Tupou took a dive IMO.

Parker has had 3 first round stoppages. 4 second round stoppages and 2 third round stoppages.

That's 9 wins by stoppage inside 3 rounds in 15 fights.

Hello!

This Fight was fake, Joseph Parker and his manager berry set up this fight and paid the opponent to dive down, Just to defend his title and to make fool of New Zealand People who doesn't know boxing that much. I'm in boxing business 25 years now and we asked joseph parker and berry to fight here in USA LA but they denied because parker is ranked 20 in the world then why is he fighting some one who is 144 ranked in the work, He just wants to save his title and make money in new zealand. I'm requesting new zealand people that berry is playing games, He is making money in new zealand and just putting it in his pocket. He doesnt know that some day parker will have to face top 10 boxers of the world which he cant pay and win. I'm not against joseph parker but the fact is the fact he should fight best 19 in the world. He has name in new zealand only. again he is fighting in October and everyone knows that he will win with set up boxers who are not ranked. We want him to fight here in USA, Even Antony Joshua challenged him but berry said not yet.

this fight was totally bullshit fight, Berry and parker is only collecting money from new zealand but they can face real fighter in USA. If parker is number 20 then why is he fighting unknown boxers like 144 in the world. It embarrassing, WBO why you letting parker not fighting ranked boxers. Now i have seen that he wants to fight an old man Kali Maheen. Berry is paying kali maheen to go down like botha fight. I'm requesting all the public not to waste your money on this bullshit parker fight. even its worth to see sonny bill fight rather than parker.

This is to all the boxing followers that brown butterbean as Dave Letele lost the fight against Kaleni Taetuli in first round K.O, Today he payed to NZ boxing and Boxrec to delete his results from boxrec. This is what happening in NZ. If this will not be corrected then this news will be published in everywhere around the world. Lance revill has taken the money and deleted it from boxrec. Brad Vocale as a referee and boxrec official is involved in this. Boxrec is main place where it is shown whether a boxer has loss or won. But now its all corrupted from nz boxing. You can delete it from boxrec but you cant delete the video., here is his boxrec link, last night it was there but today they took the money and deleted it from boxrec, So no loss will show there, This guy is bringing all the debut and giving money to loss, But this time he loss. he paid and deleted from boxrec. check the link http://boxrec.com/boxer/702783

DA GOOSE wrote:

convict wrote:Yeah a bit suspect, TAB were paying (Parker win by) $3 for a KO within first three rounds. Some one made some money .

Really $3 for a KO in the first 3 rounds when Bowie has never been KO'd in less than 5 by far more experienced pro's than Joseph. Not a blight on Joseph but Tupou took a dive IMO.

Experience you say?

In 61 fights Fans Botha had only ever been stopped once inside 3 rounds. By the great Lennox Lewis.

Along comes Joseph Parker with 5 fights to his name and stops Botha inside 2 rounds.

That's what Parker does.

Glen Stephen wrote:This Fight was fake, Joseph Parker and his manager berry set up this fight and paid the opponent to dive down, Just to defend his title and to make fool of New Zealand People who doesn't know boxing that much. I'm in boxing business 25 years now and we asked joseph parker and berry to fight here in USA LA but they denied because parker is ranked 20 in the world then why is he fighting some one who is 144 ranked in the work, He just wants to save his title and make money in new zealand. I'm requesting new zealand people that berry is playing games, He is making money in new zealand and just putting it in his pocket. He doesnt know that some day parker will have to face top 10 boxers of the world which he cant pay and win. I'm not against joseph parker but the fact is the fact he should fight best 19 in the world. He has name in new zealand only. again he is fighting in October and everyone knows that he will win with set up boxers who are not ranked. We want him to fight here in USA, Even Antony Joshua challenged him but berry said not yet.

Unfair on Parker mate. Tupou whilst a journeyman should of given Joseph at least 4 or 5 rounds from past fights. It's not Kevin Barry's(not berry)fault Tupou took a dive. Tupou has a history of quitting he did it on the Dawson-Ward undercard against Malik Scott in many peoples opinion not the fault of Joseph or his management.

DA GOOSE wrote:

Glen Stephen wrote:This Fight was fake, Joseph Parker and his manager berry set up this fight and paid the opponent to dive down, Just to defend his title and to make fool of New Zealand People who doesn't know boxing that much. I'm in boxing business 25 years now and we asked joseph parker and berry to fight here in USA LA but they denied because parker is ranked 20 in the world then why is he fighting some one who is 144 ranked in the work, He just wants to save his title and make money in new zealand. I'm requesting new zealand people that berry is playing games, He is making money in new zealand and just putting it in his pocket. He doesnt know that some day parker will have to face top 10 boxers of the world which he cant pay and win. I'm not against joseph parker but the fact is the fact he should fight best 19 in the world. He has name in new zealand only. again he is fighting in October and everyone knows that he will win with set up boxers who are not ranked. We want him to fight here in USA, Even Antony Joshua challenged him but berry said not yet.

Unfair on Parker mate. Tupou whilst a journeyman should of given Joseph at least 4 or 5 rounds from past fights. It's not Kevin Barry's(not berry)fault Tupou took a dive. Tupou has a history of quitting he did it on the Dawson-Ward undercard against Malik Scott in many peoples opinion not the fault of Joseph or his management.

exactly not parkers fault been fighting beyond his experiance almost from the start and keeps winning

bogan whisperer wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote:

convict wrote:Yeah a bit suspect, TAB were paying (Parker win by) $3 for a KO within first three rounds. Some one made some money .

Really $3 for a KO in the first 3 rounds when Bowie has never been KO'd in less than 5 by far more experienced pro's than Joseph. Not a blight on Joseph but Tupou took a dive IMO.

Experience you say?

In 61 fights Fans Botha had only ever been stopped once inside 3 rounds. By the great Lennox Lewis.

Along comes Joseph Parker with 5 fights to his name and stops Botha inside 2 rounds.

That's what Parker does.

So now you're comparing a 30 year old Botha to a 43 year old Botha. . Big difference in age between Tupou and Botha too.

DA GOOSE wrote:

bogan whisperer wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote:
Really $3 for a KO in the first 3 rounds when Bowie has never been KO'd in less than 5 by far more experienced pro's than Joseph. Not a blight on Joseph but Tupou took a dive IMO.

Experience you say?

In 61 fights Fans Botha had only ever been stopped once inside 3 rounds. By the great Lennox Lewis.

Along comes Joseph Parker with 5 fights to his name and stops Botha inside 2 rounds.

That's what Parker does.

So now you're comparing a 30 year old Botha to a 43 year old Botha. . Big difference in age between Tupou and Botha too.

What you also don't seem to understand is Parker KOs them regardless of age and experience. Take a read through his opponents. Various ages and mostly KOed inside 3 rounds:

http://boxrec.com/boxer/613846

That's what Parker does. Wise up

dagoose,
u r full of it.

pull your head in saying bowie took a dive as if it is fact. u r not impressing anyone. amd I dare u to say it to his face.

and he does not have a history of diving either u liar. he popped or tore his shoulder vs scott. that's not diving.

Farcical this whole episode ..from mismatch to alleged short platform Olympic diving ...sigh .... 39.95$ was it on PPV ? D... oh well

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What you also don't seem to understand is Parker KOs them regardless of age and experience. Take a read through his opponents. Various ages and mostly KOed inside 3 rounds:

http://boxrec.com/boxer/613846

That's what Parker does. Wise up [/quote]
I know and he would have KO'd Tupou legitimately after first beating him up badly. Tupou knows that too hence the dive and acting job. It was beautiful didn't break the fall with his hands moved his body slightly on the way down to avoid landing on his face. Tupou has a career in acting if he wants.

Rogue wrote:Farcical this whole episode ..from mismatch to alleged short platform Olympic diving ...sigh .... 39.95$ was it on PPV ? D... oh well

Well all boxers have stay busy fights against opponents that will give them rounds so to speak. Parker v Tupou is not the worst Parkers team were'nt to know Bowie would take a dive and if people willingly shell out $40 for what was an obvious mismatch bad luck to them. In a tipping comp I'm in there was 1 fight everyone got right including method of victory. Which fight? That's right Parker v Tupou.

It seems every time a heavyweight gets stopped by a blow that doesn't land flush there is someone pushing the angle he took a dive. These guys are 220 pounds plus. Spend their sporting lives smashing bags and people and as a result learn to hit fooking hard. They don't always need to hit you flush with their sledgehammers to stop you.

There is a poll on the Current Scene forum asking the question 'Was the KO Suspicions?'

Over 80% don't see the KO as having been suspicious.

The poll on the question 'Did Soliman throw his fight against Taylor" also ran at over 80% as not being suspicious.

There will always be a minority trying to push the conspiracy theory

I think people are being a bit harsh on Tupou, saying it was a mismatch. Tupou took the fight to Jennings in a big way and I regard him as a legitimate opponent. The fact is, Parker is the business: ever since he KO'd Botha in two, he has been world class in my opinion.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Team-Fen ... e_internal

"Let us start by stating Joseph Parker and his Camp..Are at no fault and we are not laying any blame...But saturdays fight ended in what we believe was an unintentional foul..The punch that landed at impact was on the top of Bowie Tupou head..Many people have stated that the punch was soft and question the effect..But the reason why in boxing punching is illegal on top of the head is for that very reason..As we stated before we are not accusing the Joseph Parker of intentional fouling..However we would like to show the facts..Social media has been accusing Bowie of a whole range of things..Anybody that saw the first 30 seconds will know that Tupou came to fight..Look at the glove of Parker in the pic above and see where it landed..On the top of the back part of Bowie Tupous head..Bowie trained hard for this fight and came to win..We believe the ending was not deliberate but certainly controversial..In boxing this is called an unintentional foul..Temple shots are legal..But top of the head is not.."

"Aussie boxer Bowie Tupou slams claims he took a dive in loss to Joseph Parker"
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-spor ... eph-parker

Gnome wrote:I think people are being a bit harsh on Tupou, saying it was a mismatch. Tupou took the fight to Jennings in a big way and I regard him as a legitimate opponent. The fact is, Parker is the business: ever since he KO'd Botha in two, he has been world class in my opinion.

A fighter can be his own worst enemy at times. The more impressively he wins the more flack he cops about the quality of his opponent. This is a prime case.

goose knows there was no dive, he's just playing games as usual.

tupou just tried to rush things a little too much I believe.

I'd like to see a rematch considering the punch was on top of his scone. might end the same way but might not either.

buster007 wrote:goose knows there was no dive, he's just playing games as usual.

tupou just tried to rush things a little too much I believe.

I'd like to see a rematch considering the punch was on top of his scone. might end the same way but might not either.

There's always a small minority who get sucked into conspiracy theories and it is usually the same people over and over again.

No chance Parker will give Tupou a rematch though. Parker is off to bigger and better things. Starting with Kali Meehan.

lowlefthand wrote:https://www.facebook.com/pages/Team-Fen ... e_internal

"Let us start by stating Joseph Parker and his Camp..Are at no fault and we are not laying any blame...But saturdays fight ended in what we believe was an unintentional foul..The punch that landed at impact was on the top of Bowie Tupou head..Many people have stated that the punch was soft and question the effect..But the reason why in boxing punching is illegal on top of the head is for that very reason..As we stated before we are not accusing the Joseph Parker of intentional fouling..However we would like to show the facts..Social media has been accusing Bowie of a whole range of things..Anybody that saw the first 30 seconds will know that Tupou came to fight..Look at the glove of Parker in the pic above and see where it landed..On the top of the back part of Bowie Tupous head..Bowie trained hard for this fight and came to win..We believe the ending was not deliberate but certainly controversial..In boxing this is called an unintentional foul..Temple shots are legal..But top of the head is not.."

If you draw a line from behind your ears straight across the top of your head, that is the line that differentiates between a legal blow and a foul blow, as I said in an earlier post, listen for the very loud thud when he is hit with the right, it hit hard, as for goose, the name explains everything

lowlefthand wrote:"Aussie boxer Bowie Tupou slams claims he took a dive in loss to Joseph Parker"
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-spor ... eph-parker

Of course he's going to deny it. Anyone with eyes could see what went down. Sheesh Tupou dived in a fight he had no chance of winning anyway. Time to accept this and move on people.

buster007 wrote:goose knows there was no dive, he's just playing games as usual.

tupou just tried to rush things a little too much I believe.

I'd like to see a rematch considering the punch was on top of his scone. might end the same way but might not either.

Rematch? Of a 63 second fight? Highy doubt it Parker is a young guy going places it would end the same way only Bowie would receive more punishment if he doesn't take a dive.