Boxing Monthly Aug / Sep review

Battlingsiki
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Re: Boxing Monthly Aug review

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veriton wrote:no mate, that social media page has replaced farhood's column which i used to enjoy. it's a poor swap in my opinion and doesnt really add anything as it is forced to focus on tittle tattle, which seems as odds with the knowledgable style of the rest of the mag.
Thanks for the comments, Veriton. Steve decided to leave BM following Glyn's passing and I was asked by the Publisher to write a column on the social media aspect, which is certainly more restrictive in terms of content. It's far easier to write a straight column about any subject in boxing rather than unearth a fresh angle from a social media standpoint for a monthly publication. I've endeavoured to mix it up with a few interviews, but inevitably the focus is on the spats and gaffes featuring leading fighters on Twitter. Fred Sternburg is certainly of interest for people in the boxing media and trade, but may not be to everyone's taste as subject matter. I worked at Boxing News for four years when it was black and white and most of the ink came off in your hands. But it's a different world now. We move with the times. I had a conversation with Jeff Powell in Macao where he told me that the old school journalists who refused to adopt social media were marginalised and faded from view. Not everyone likes it or uses it, but the medium is here to stay.

Developing the social media side of BM is essential if the magazine is to continue. The interactions I have had via @BoxingMonthlyEd have been largely positive and we are reaching fight fans who may not previously have been aware of the magazine. We have to find a balance between old and new. Sports magazines have been in the death throes for some time and, with news in boxing being so immediate, a monthly fight magazine is a challenge. It's not as simple a process as some might think. I had a Glen Tapia feature ready to go then Top Rank squeezed in a fight against Michel Soro, Tapia was KOed and the piece never saw the light of day. Time and effort wasted. Most of the features in BM are on UK-based fighters, but the onus is on me to find original, international content. In the last 18 months, I've interviewed Gulliermo Rigondeaux, Mike Tyson, Tim Bradley, Roman Gonzalez, David Lemieux, Jermain Taylor, Nonito Donaire, Hekkie Budler, Amnat Ruenroeng, Peter Quillin and Iran Barkley for BM among others. Not a bad list. Some pieces capture the imagination more than others, but it's a pleasure for me to work for Graham and be part of the Boxing Monthly team and it's my intention that the magazine is ready to face the publishing challenges of the future. Social media is a big part of that. - Mark Butcher.
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Bodyshot3
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Re: Boxing Monthly Aug / Sep review

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I
really enjoyed this month's column. Truth and boxing don't often go hand-in-hand and I could see what he was getting at.
Sorry Terry - we agree on most things - I did kinda get the main 'theme' but felt the way it got there was roundabout and could have been made with some better, punchy examples and it was a bit rambling. Perhaps I miss GL's pieces that called a spade a spade?

But it is a opinon column designed to spark debate and Steve's pieces always hit the mark in that respect...and as a customer I thought it was another decent issue and I am not going to stop buying BM because I find one column not to my taste in terms of writing style and content.
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Whatever happened to the BM mugs? I was gutted when mine broke, where can I but a new one?
Battlingsiki
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Boxerbeetle wrote:Whatever happened to the BM mugs? I was gutted when mine broke, where can I but a new one?
No mugs left sadly. T-shirts, gym towels, binders and the odd key ring available. Hopefully, the BM mug can make a 'Mosley style' comeback... just more palatable.
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I have two BM mugs. Perhaps I better lock one away in a safe then. :D
veriton
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Re: Boxing Monthly Aug review

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Battlingsiki wrote:
veriton wrote:no mate, that social media page has replaced farhood's column which i used to enjoy. it's a poor swap in my opinion and doesnt really add anything as it is forced to focus on tittle tattle, which seems as odds with the knowledgable style of the rest of the mag.
Thanks for the comments, Veriton. Steve decided to leave BM following Glyn's passing and I was asked by the Publisher to write a column on the social media aspect, which is certainly more restrictive in terms of content. It's far easier to write a straight column about any subject in boxing rather than unearth a fresh angle from a social media standpoint for a monthly publication. I've endeavoured to mix it up with a few interviews, but inevitably the focus is on the spats and gaffes featuring leading fighters on Twitter. Fred Sternburg is certainly of interest for people in the boxing media and trade, but may not be to everyone's taste as subject matter. I worked at Boxing News for four years when it was black and white and most of the ink came off in your hands. But it's a different world now. We move with the times. I had a conversation with Jeff Powell in Macao where he told me that the old school journalists who refused to adopt social media were marginalised and faded from view. Not everyone likes it or uses it, but the medium is here to stay.

Developing the social media side of BM is essential if the magazine is to continue. The interactions I have had via @BoxingMonthlyEd have been largely positive and we are reaching fight fans who may not previously have been aware of the magazine. We have to find a balance between old and new. Sports magazines have been in the death throes for some time and, with news in boxing being so immediate, a monthly fight magazine is a challenge. It's not as simple a process as some might think. I had an excellent Glen Tapia feature ready to go then Top Rank squeezed in a fight against Michel Soro, Tapia was KOed and the piece never saw the light of day. Time and effort wasted. Most of the features in BM are on UK-based fighters, but the onus is on me to find original, international content. In the last 18 months, I've interviewed Gulliermo Rigondeaux, Mike Tyson, Tim Bradley, Roman Gonzalez, David Lemieux, Jermain Taylor, Nonito Donaire, Hekkie Budler, Amnat Ruenroeng, Peter Quillin and Iran Barkley for BM among others. Not a bad list. Some pieces capture the imagination more than others, but it's a pleasure for me to work for Graham and be part of the Boxing Monthly team and it's my intention that the magazine is ready to face the publishing challenges of the future. Social media is a big part of that. - Mark Butcher.
hi Mark. Developing the social media side makes sense, but not sure how well it translates when you try and put it into print format. Knowing Ricky Hatton uses kisses at the ends of tweets to David Price really depressed me for some reason. It seemed completely at odds with the in-depth cerebral soul searching in the Conlan piece in the same issue.

Seeing as you stated about interviews, and one being pulled, I have noticed that you often interview fighters before a fight. Donaire is another one in this issue. To me, it makes it seem unneccessarily dated as you don't have the most recent contest included (with the road ahead clear for the future). I understand this is probably because fighters usually get straight out of town after a fight, but you seem to have a good rapport with them. Why not catch up after the fight with a quick phone call, or a chat in the hotel lobby before they leave? Bulk of the piece done beforehand obviously. I've really enjoyed your articles, which are often of boxers we didnt use to hear much about. Personally, I'd love for the social media page to disappear and for you to do a "Letter from Asia) column instead as it seems you have good connections out there.
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Re: Boxing Monthly Aug review

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veriton wrote:
Battlingsiki wrote:
veriton wrote:no mate, that social media page has replaced farhood's column which i used to enjoy. it's a poor swap in my opinion and doesnt really add anything as it is forced to focus on tittle tattle, which seems as odds with the knowledgable style of the rest of the mag.
Thanks for the comments, Veriton. Steve decided to leave BM following Glyn's passing and I was asked by the Publisher to write a column on the social media aspect, which is certainly more restrictive in terms of content. It's far easier to write a straight column about any subject in boxing rather than unearth a fresh angle from a social media standpoint for a monthly publication. I've endeavoured to mix it up with a few interviews, but inevitably the focus is on the spats and gaffes featuring leading fighters on Twitter. Fred Sternburg is certainly of interest for people in the boxing media and trade, but may not be to everyone's taste as subject matter. I worked at Boxing News for four years when it was black and white and most of the ink came off in your hands. But it's a different world now. We move with the times. I had a conversation with Jeff Powell in Macao where he told me that the old school journalists who refused to adopt social media were marginalised and faded from view. Not everyone likes it or uses it, but the medium is here to stay.

Developing the social media side of BM is essential if the magazine is to continue. The interactions I have had via @BoxingMonthlyEd have been largely positive and we are reaching fight fans who may not previously have been aware of the magazine. We have to find a balance between old and new. Sports magazines have been in the death throes for some time and, with news in boxing being so immediate, a monthly fight magazine is a challenge. It's not as simple a process as some might think. I had an excellent Glen Tapia feature ready to go then Top Rank squeezed in a fight against Michel Soro, Tapia was KOed and the piece never saw the light of day. Time and effort wasted. Most of the features in BM are on UK-based fighters, but the onus is on me to find original, international content. In the last 18 months, I've interviewed Gulliermo Rigondeaux, Mike Tyson, Tim Bradley, Roman Gonzalez, David Lemieux, Jermain Taylor, Nonito Donaire, Hekkie Budler, Amnat Ruenroeng, Peter Quillin and Iran Barkley for BM among others. Not a bad list. Some pieces capture the imagination more than others, but it's a pleasure for me to work for Graham and be part of the Boxing Monthly team and it's my intention that the magazine is ready to face the publishing challenges of the future. Social media is a big part of that. - Mark Butcher.
hi Mark. Developing the social media side makes sense, but not sure how well it translates when you try and put it into print format. Knowing Ricky Hatton uses kisses at the ends of tweets to David Price really depressed me for some reason. It seemed completely at odds with the in-depth cerebral soul searching in the Conlan piece in the same issue.

Seeing as you stated about interviews, and one being pulled, I have noticed that you often interview fighters before a fight. Donaire is another one in this issue. To me, it makes it seem unneccessarily dated as you don't have the most recent contest included (with the road ahead clear for the future). I understand this is probably because fighters usually get straight out of town after a fight, but you seem to have a good rapport with them. Why not catch up after the fight with a quick phone call, or a chat in the hotel lobby before they leave? Bulk of the piece done beforehand obviously. I've really enjoyed your articles, which are often of boxers we didnt use to hear much about. Personally, I'd love for the social media page to disappear and for you to do a "Letter from Asia) column instead as it seems you have good connections out there.
It really depends on the availability of fighters and if I have all the information I need. Macao is a rare exception where I may get the bulk of material before a contest (like Donaire and Tso) they are almost certain to win. I spoke to Rigondeaux afterwards. It's on a case by case basis. I talked to Nonito at McSorley's post-fight but there was nothing really to add about Settoul. It was a blowout and I have to squeeze 4,000 words of material into 1,500 to 1,800 most issues. 'Letter from Asia' is a fabulous idea. We will have more Asian themed pieces in the magazine shortly.
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Re: Boxing Monthly Aug review

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Boxerbeetle wrote:Yep, good issue. I particularly enjoyed the Mick Williamson article.

enjoyed reading that too yesterday. I can't believe there was serious mileage in this Eubank-Benn III malarky and they've started having tit for tat again.
I know Benn can look tidy with Ricky Hatton holding the pads for him and they've both kept themselves in shape but seriously. Another fight? Who the blummin heck would want to see that? Not me. In fact - in the interests of being fair, I'll explain why - a) they will both have considerable ring-rust and it won't exactly be crisp, nail-biting stuff like the first fight and b) risk goes up from blows to the head as you get older, apparently. So from a simple safety POV, it would be best left in the past.
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